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**Abu Sayyad** · **Re: Kingdom of Heaven -** 05-08-2005

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Originally Posted by snipeaac

Takbeer was in the movie.. It had mistakes of course.. made us muslims look ok.. not much mention on it. But it made the crusaders look better than they deserve

it made the defenders of jeruslem look better, not those who left jeruselam for Damascus

**Ansar Al-'Adl** · **Re: Kingdom of Heaven -** 05-09-2005

Interesting posts. JazakAllah khair for providing us with the review, Br. Kadafi.

ahm · **Re: Kingdom of Heaven -** 05-09-2005

Did someone notice the incomplete recitation of Sura Fatiha?

Khattab · **Re: Kingdom of Heaven -** 05-17-2005

Yeah the crusaders are painted as resistance fighters, "defending" Bait Al Maqdes, which wasnt true. It was a good film to watch though.

Also was fire really used by the muslims in the wars between the two? I thought only Allah (SWT) has the right to punish by fire.

Bin Qasim · **Re: Kingdom of Heaven -** 05-17-2005

well as a movie, it was good but a bit violent I think.

a historical view, to me, Saladin was looking cruel. and it is not a good watch for any non muslims who don't know muslims and about crusades.

and the usual scenes of english movies shouldn't be there in such a movie at least.

and to my knowledge, Saladin didn't use fire but big rocks thrown by "Dabbabs"(that's the term for that weapon).

but I would like to read more about it. any online sources?? I do have a book, History of Islam by Akbar Shah Najeebabadi but not much detail is given about this. pls care to share the knowledge.

:brother:

Ibn Syed · **Re: Kingdom of Heaven -** 05-18-2005

Is it a good movie for a young muslim to watch? I might watch it.

solid_snake · **Re: Kingdom of Heaven -** 05-18-2005

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Originally Posted by Ibn Syed

Is it a good movie for a young muslim to watch? I might watch it.

Rated R for strong violence and epic warfare.

Lateralus63 · **Re: Kingdom of Heaven -** 05-18-2005

i wouldnt say its important to watch it but a useful supplement in seeing how the potrayal of muslims are today. Im quite curious really some friends have said its a neutral movie but i would like to see what others think and also see it for myself.

montoyauk · **anybody seen kingdom of heaven??????? -** 11-13-2005

just saw this movie last night
kingdom of heaven starring orlando bloom
the movie potrays the muslims very good in this movie for a change.
:loving: potray christian crusaders bad....:loving: in taking over jerusalem

i was very surprised as there usually portray the muslims as terrorist,murderers etc in movies

**Abu Sayyad** · **Re: Kingdom of Heaven -** 11-13-2005

Threads Merged.

Abu Zakariya · **Re: Kingdom of Heaven -** 11-13-2005

Does anybody have a screenshot of the muslims praying in the movie?

muha0154 · **Re: Kingdom of Heaven -** 11-13-2005

Assalaamu Alaykum

Quote:

Originally Posted by ahm

The Film?

Your better off getting this book:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...406262-7870829

That's an excellent book, very informative, and very entertaining. Salaam.

Muhammad

azim · **Re: Kingdom of Heaven -** 11-13-2005

I think it's quite funny that the muslim community are happy with a film which is neautral (no offence to anyone btw). Historically speaking, the character Orlando Bloom plays (can't remember his name) doesnt exist. The hollywood producers had a problem since the movie looked something like this (if it was to be made accurately): -

Salah-ad-din (Muslim - Very Good/Merciful) VS King Richard II (Christian - Very Bad, Merciless (i.e. killed 3000 prisoners of war etc..)

So, what do they do, they keep the real Salah-ad-din, but put in a fake Christian character, so the movie looks something like this: -

Salah-ad-din (Muslim - Very Good/Merciful) VS Orlando guy (Christian - Very Good, Merciful).

I guess progress is progress though.

solid_snake · 01:52 AM

Here comes another one:

Three-time Academy Award®-winning director-producer Steven Spielberg directs Munich, an historical thriller set in the aftermath of the 1972 massacre of 11 Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics. Munich recounts the dramatic story of the secret Israeli squad assigned to track down and assassinate 11 Palestinians believed to have planned the 1972 Munich massacre -- and the personal toll this mission of revenge takes on the team and the man who led it. Eric Bana (Troy) stars as the Mossad agent charged with leading the band of specialists brought together for this operation.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/munich/

muha0154 · **Re: Kingdom of Heaven -** 11-15-2005

Assalaamu Alaykum

Quote:

Originally Posted by azim

Historically speaking, the character Orlando Bloom plays (can't remember his name) doesnt exist

Actually Balian of Ibelin was a real character, at least according to the book 'The Crusades Through Arab Eyes", although he may have been portrayed differently in the movie. Salaam.

Muhammad

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Ansar Al-'Adl Administrator Status: Offline Posts: 5,161 Reputation: 13017 Rep Power: 45 Join Date: Dec 2004 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Kingdom of Heaven - 05-09-2005 Interesting posts. JazakAllah khair for providing us with the review, Br. Kadafi. __________________ The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "Surely I was sent to perfect the qualities of righteous character" [Musnad Ahmad, Muwatta Mâlik] Visit Ansâr Al-'Adl's personal page HERE. Excellent resources on Islam listed HERE.

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ahm LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 113 Reputation: 90 Rep Power: 22 Join Date: May 2005 Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Kingdom of Heaven - 05-09-2005 Did someone notice the incomplete recitation of Sura Fatiha?

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Khattab Slave of Allah Status: Offline Posts: 567 Reputation: 543 Rep Power: 25 Join Date: Dec 2004 Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Kingdom of Heaven - 05-17-2005 Yeah the crusaders are painted as resistance fighters, "defending" Bait Al Maqdes, which wasnt true. It was a good film to watch though. Also was fire really used by the muslims in the wars between the two? I thought only Allah (SWT) has the right to punish by fire. __________________ *"Lo! the Hour is surely coming, there is no doubt thereof; yet most of mankind believe not." (Al-Ghafir:59)*

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Bin Qasim 01010101 Status: Offline Posts: 364 Reputation: 128 Rep Power: 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Kingdom of Heaven - 05-17-2005 well as a movie, it was good but a bit violent I think. a historical view, to me, Saladin was looking cruel. and it is not a good watch for any non muslims who don't know muslims and about crusades. and the usual scenes of english movies shouldn't be there in such a movie at least. and to my knowledge, Saladin didn't use fire but big rocks thrown by "Dabbabs"(that's the term for that weapon). but I would like to read more about it. any online sources?? I do have a book, History of Islam by Akbar Shah Najeebabadi but not much detail is given about this. pls care to share the knowledge. :brother:

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Ibn Syed LI Oldtimer Status: Offline Posts: 870 Reputation: 501 Rep Power: 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Kingdom of Heaven - 05-18-2005 Is it a good movie for a young muslim to watch? I might watch it. __________________ So Glorified is He and Exalted above all that they associate with Him, and in Whose Hands is the dominion of all things, and to Him you shall be returned. (Sura Ya-Seen 36:83)

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Lateralus63 LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 272 Reputation: 398 Rep Power: 22 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: London Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Kingdom of Heaven - 05-18-2005 i wouldnt say its important to watch it but a useful supplement in seeing how the potrayal of muslims are today. Im quite curious really some friends have said its a neutral movie but i would like to see what others think and also see it for myself. __________________ Post count means nothing. So dont pursue it.

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montoyauk LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 95 Reputation: 19 Rep Power: 20 Join Date: Oct 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	anybody seen kingdom of heaven??????? - 11-13-2005 just saw this movie last night kingdom of heaven starring orlando bloom the movie potrays the muslims very good in this movie for a change. :loving: potray christian crusaders bad....:loving: in taking over jerusalem i was very surprised as there usually portray the muslims as terrorist,murderers etc in movies

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Abu Sayyad *iwannagetmarried.com* Status: Offline Posts: 6,819 Reputation: 50170 Rep Power: 91 Join Date: Mar 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Kingdom of Heaven - 11-13-2005 Threads Merged. __________________ هَلْ جَزَاء الْإِحْسَانِ إِلَّا الْإِحْسَانُ؟ Is there any reward for good other than good? [ar-Rahman: 60] "However, keep in mind that you must instruct the people with kindness and mercy. Don’t take this answer and shove it in their faces.* Be kind, gentle and patient.*" - Imam Suhaib Webb, advising after giving an answer. O Allah, Lord of Jibril, Mika'il and Israfil, Creator of the heavens and the earth, Knower of the unseen and the seen, You will judge between Your servants concerning that wherein they differ. Guide me with regard to that wherein there is dispute concerning the truth by Your leave, for You guide whomsoever You will to the straight path. Oh Allah, I seek refuge in You lest I misguide others, or I am misguided by others, lest I cause others to err or I am caused to err, lest I abuse others or be abused, and lest I behave foolishly or meet with the foolishness of others.

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Abu Zakariya the servant of God Status: Offline Posts: 470 Reputation: 1062 Rep Power: 22 Join Date: Jul 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Kingdom of Heaven - 11-13-2005 Does anybody have a screenshot of the muslims praying in the movie? __________________ http://muslimeurope.wordpress.com

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azim LI Oldtimer Status: Offline Posts: 700 Reputation: 987 Rep Power: 22 Join Date: Aug 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Kingdom of Heaven - 11-13-2005 I think it's quite funny that the muslim community are happy with a film which is neautral (no offence to anyone btw). Historically speaking, the character Orlando Bloom plays (can't remember his name) doesnt exist. The hollywood producers had a problem since the movie looked something like this (if it was to be made accurately): - Salah-ad-din (Muslim - Very Good/Merciful) VS King Richard II (Christian - Very Bad, Merciless (i.e. killed 3000 prisoners of war etc..) So, what do they do, they keep the real Salah-ad-din, but put in a fake Christian character, so the movie looks something like this: - Salah-ad-din (Muslim - Very Good/Merciful) VS Orlando guy (Christian - Very Good, Merciful). I guess progress is progress though.

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solid_snake LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 293 Reputation: 266 Rep Power: 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Canada Gender: Way of Life: Undisclosed	Re: Kingdom of Heaven - 11-14-2005 Here comes another one: Three-time Academy Award®-winning director-producer Steven Spielberg directs Munich, an historical thriller set in the aftermath of the 1972 massacre of 11 Israeli athletes at the Munich Olympics. Munich recounts the dramatic story of the secret Israeli squad assigned to track down and assassinate 11 Palestinians believed to have planned the 1972 Munich massacre -- and the personal toll this mission of revenge takes on the team and the man who led it. Eric Bana (Troy) stars as the Mossad agent charged with leading the band of specialists brought together for this operation. http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/munich/ Last edited by solid_snake; 11-14-2005 at 01:52 AM..