Originally Posted by islam-truth

Last time I checked The US and Britian were the one's invading countries so how can muslims seem like oppressers were being oppressed.

When someone attacked the prophet (SAW) would walk away. In these times it's important to portray islamic characteristics, as people seem to think Muslims completely represent the teachings of Islam.
I'm not saying we should not condemn the wrong actions of the British and USA gov.
W'salaam

islamic characteristics

I agree but some muslims hold the view that even when your attacked you shouldn't do anything islam is peace but it's also common sense someone gets in your face or intends harm on you you got a duty to protect yourself.

Originally Posted by islam-truth

I agree but some muslims hold the view that even when your attacked you shouldn't do anything islam is peace but it's also common sense someone gets in your face or intends harm on you you got a duty to protect yourself.

yep exactly, we are peaceful with those who are peaceful with us.

Yeah I know. I am talking about if someone wrongs you.
But the prophet (SAW) did teach us to protect and defend those who are oppressed, and also help the oppressor (by stopping him from oppressing others).
That's all I meant.

Originally Posted by Umm_Shaheed

Yeah I know. I am talking about if someone wrongs you.
But the prophet (SAW) did teach us to protect and defend those who are oppressed, and also help the oppressor (by stopping him from oppressing others).
That's all I meant.

True you need to 50/50 with your personality able to dish out mercy to those who are peaceful towards you and also be able to be harsh with the enemies of islam cause if you posses one without the other your in trouble.

assalaamu alaykum,

someone slaps me i ask him why he slaped me, he slaps me again i put him on the floor. end of.

the muslims have been invaded, our lands plundered and stolen, women and children raped and murdered, men tortured and killed whilst not even being combatants.

subhanallah, then so called muslims leaders suck up to these people and take them as their awliya, they have wahan in their hearts, we all do but these people are the worse of the muslims, worse than open sinners as they lead away from the straight path.

assalaamu alaykum,
Daw'ud

Originally Posted by Umm_Shaheed

Yeah I know. I am talking about if someone wrongs you.
But the prophet (SAW) did teach us to protect and defend those who are oppressed, and also help the oppressor (by stopping him from oppressing others).
That's all I meant.

recently i been feeling sooo confused becoz i been stressin about goin to palestine ye and ma family keeps sayin that its not constructive at all.... and im startin to think there right! What can i do by goin palestine alone

Originally Posted by Abd'Majid

recently i been feeling sooo confused becoz i been stressin about goin to palestine ye and ma family keeps sayin that its not constructive at all.... and im startin to think there right! What can i do by goin palestine alone

It's beacuse too many muslims think that way that the situation hasn't been delt inshallah allah will guide you to a good decision.

Originally Posted by islam-truth

It's beacuse too man muslims think that way that the situation hasn't been delt inshallah allah will guide you to a good decision.

bro there plannin an all out attack on our beautiful holy land oh man! i keep thinkin in my head, will i be held accountable if all of palestine is wrecked and i didnt try help?!

I feel like a Hyprocrite sometimes the prophet said: "none of you are true believers till you love for your brother what you love for your self."

Originally Posted by islam-truth

I feel like a Hyprocrite sometimes the prophet said: "none of you are true believers till you love for your brother what you love for your self."

assalaamu alaykum brother,

you have made the intention at least, you have made effort to remove the love of dunya and fear of death from your heart.

i would recommend you read 'Defence of the Muslim Lands' by the martyred Sheikh, Abdullah Azzam, may Allah accept as a martyr and grant his wish to join the caravan of martyrs.

now Sheikh Abdullah Azzam was actually from Palastine, yet left the Jihad there and went to try to carry it on else where. this was because he realised the zionist dogs were too strong and supported by the apostate rulers in the neighbouring lands and knew that only through establishing a strong islamic state could palestine ever be liberated.

so perhaps it is appropiate you make hijrah, and contribute to establishing that strong state in whatever capacity you are able?


assalaamu alaykum,
Daw'ud

Originally Posted by Abd'Majid

bro there plannin an all out attack on our beautiful holy land oh man! i keep thinkin in my head, will i be held accountable if all of palestine is wrecked and i didnt try help?!

At the end of the day, Allah will hold you accountable for your actions. I think you should listen to the talk in this page:
http://inshallahshaheed.wordpress.co...ari-al-ushaaq/
And this one:
http://inshallahshaheed.wordpress.co...darb-al-jihad/
Both very inspiring.
W'salaam

Originally Posted by Dawud_uk

assalaamu alaykum brother,

you have made the intention at least, you have made effort to remove the love of dunya and fear of death from your heart.

i would recommend you read 'Defence of the Muslim Lands' by the martyred Sheikh, Abdullah Azzam, may Allah accept as a martyr and grant his wish to join the caravan of martyrs.

now Sheikh Abdullah Azzam was actually from Palastine, yet left the Jihad there and went to try to carry it on else where. this was because he realised the zionist dogs were too strong and supported by the apostate rulers in the neighbouring lands and knew that only through establishing a strong islamic state could palestine ever be liberated.

so perhaps it is appropiate you make hijrah, and contribute to establishing that strong state in whatever capacity you are able?


assalaamu alaykum,
Daw'ud

i heard afghanistan is tryin to re-establish the taliban! Do you think they can turn that into an islamic state?

Originally Posted by Abd'Majid

i heard afghanistan is tryin to re-establish the taliban! Do you think they can turn that into an islamic state?

assalaamu alaykum,

i dont see anywhere else that is remotely close to establishing a true islamic state and many mujahadeen acknowledge Sheikh Muhammad Umar As Amir al - Mumineen including Mujahadeen in Iraq, Kashmir etc not just Afghanistan.

i am not saying necessarily go and fight, that is your own decision how you can best contribute, you know yourself best

but being in that area of NW frontier province Pakistan / Southern Afghanistan would mean you would be able to help more when things calm down as the US / UK know they cannot continue to occupy afghanistan and support the apostates there or if you choice do otherwise.

assalaamu alaykum,
Daw'ud