Well there have been some mixed replies from What I have learn't regarding this issue is that either women should be given their rights in accordance with the sunnah of our prophet (SAW) and pray in the mosque behind the imam and the men in view or pray at home rather then a room in a mosque and lsiten to the imam through a speaker because it risks the prayers of womens prayer being invalidated. If women wanted listen throught the speaker, the rule could mean that the women can just get the speakers fitted in their homes, whats the diffrence?

Originally Posted by DaNgErOuS MiNdS

Well there have been some mixed replies from What I have learn't regarding this issue is that either women should be given their rights in accordance with the sunnah of our prophet (SAW) and pray in the mosque behind the imam and the men in view or pray at home rather then a room in a mosque and lsiten to the imam through a speaker because it risks the prayers of womens prayer being invalidated. If women wanted listen throught the speaker, the rule could mean that the women can just get the speakers fitted in their homes, whats the diffrence?

sorry bro i didn't understand.

all i do know is that even if the husband doesn't want his wife to go to masjid, she isn't considered to be disobeying him if she goes...

proof is when Umar told his wife "i think you know what my feeling is about you always praying at the masjid" (implying he rather her pray at home), and she told him "i'll only stop going if you stop me" (implying she'll keep going regardless, and she knew he wont physically stop her because he knows the hadith which gives women the right to go to the masjid)..

but as i said, masjid these days are dead, they really need to be brought back to life... i must say there's one masjid i go to, its pretty much a 'youth masjid' (coz they're all students n stuff), and it's reeeallly good mashalah.. it's always buzzing with ppl reading quran and even ppl getting together and talking about Islam or even life in general... reeeallly neat mashalah..

back in prophets time, he use to play with the kids in the masjid and make them racing tournaments, they uset o watch wrestling matches, the prophet even invited aisha to checkout these ethiopian dancers who came to do a show at the masjid... as well as it was vibrant with advises, classes and worship of Allah SWT....

and it wasnt long before the first universities of baghdad where IN the masjids teachign physics, math etc long with fiqh and aqeedah. and it was only due to the fact it was hard to run 10 lectuers in one masjid they made a building next to the masjid with seperate classes etc. but it was all one unit, the masjid was THE school, THE islamic uniting center.

what an amazing environment that we've ruined..

salams

Well what I am trying to say is that the women should be allowed/encouraged to pray in the masjid. The masjids that do allow women to pray normally have a sperate room for them which has a speaker connected to that room (to hear the imam). This method might be invalidating their prayers without them even knowing it (as mentioned in the article by the shaykh).

oh ok jazaks..

but that implies people who sit right at the back in teh khutbah, their prayer too is invalid coz they're relying on speakers to make particles vibrate against their eardrums?

salamz

Originally Posted by lolwatever

oh ok jazaks..

but that implies people who sit right at the back in teh khutbah, their prayer too is invalid coz they're relying on speakers to make particles vibrate against their eardrums?

salamz

Well one of the reasons I made this thread was to clear this up but I guess in the case of people at the back are still in jummat behind the imam but im not sure.

i guess this si one of the cases maybe we shouldn't ask questions because it can make life hard for us even though Allah meant to makeit easy? remember the case where the companion asked a jewish lady 'is this meat halal' and the prophet told her 'dont answer him'

also the other verse 'o believers dont ask questions if answered will make hardship for you..' (soemthing ilke that)..

im pretty sure this case is one of those ones.. allahu alam

salamz

women aint allowed 2 pray in da masjid where i live.. not fairrr

Originally Posted by MusLiM 4 LiFe

women aint allowed 2 pray in da masjid where i live.. not fairrr

now that you've released the steam sis.. do something about it inshaAllah ;)

give the imam a scolding, after the prayer.. infront of the jama'3ah (if he's supporting the idea)
salamz

lol, ders not enuf room.. its quite a small masjid bcuz its only a small town.. lol

ma dadz incharge of all that but he sed ders not much room.. :S

Originally Posted by lolwatever

now that you've released the steam sis.. do something about it inshaAllah ;)

give the imam a scolding, after the prayer.. infront of the jama'3ah (if he's supporting the idea)
salamz

i like that!

the gathering is all for the imams in these issues tho

i dont think the imam iz bothered.. hes new in the town.. ders no room, but i bet even if there was then only about 10 would turn up most of da time.. :S not many practising muslims newayz..

^^ lol if there's no room there isn't much u can do i guess innit? the only thing i can think of is i guess u might wanna go to the next nearest masjid which has space if you're keen on going.

at one of the masjid i pray in, the masjid gets so packed with bros that i think they endup hijacking the sis section lol, so the sisters tend to not b able 2 attend the jumuah.. but its nothing to do with the bros trying to deprive sis's of attending.. it's jst the way it is.. no room.

but i'm pretty serious... the female sahabiyah's use to put the Khalifah's in their place even during khutbah, no one called that rude or obscene or anything so long as she had teh evidence with her.. so don't let these imam's dodge u by saying 'who r u to argue with me' etc...

salamz