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    By ARIEL DAVID
    Associated Press Writer


    ROME


    Hotels at an Italian seaside resort are eager to act on the town's decision to authorize the creation of all-female beach sections for Muslim women, with at least one hotel owner saying Friday that plans are already under way to open the first of such secluded areas next month.

    The city council of Riccione, a popular resort on Italy's Adriatic coast about 90 miles east of Florence, has said it is prepared to authorize requests to set up partitions on parts of the shoreline to satisfy requests from the town's growing numbers of Arab and Muslim tourists.

    "They can have anything they want, but they can't go to the beach, at least not without all those heavy clothes," Attilio Cenni, owner of the upscale Grand Hotel des Bains, said of his female Muslim guests.

    Cenni said he plans to open the first secluded section starting in September on a stretch of shoreline of about 1,000 square meters (10,000 square feet) and to expand further next season across the more isolated beaches on Riccione's outskirts.

    He also plans a TV advertising campaigns in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, Cenni told The Associated Press in a telephone interview.

    Popular with German and French tourists, Riccione's mass-tourism venues have recently started to attract thousands of Arab and Muslim visitors each year, mostly from the conservative Arabian peninsula, city officials say.

    Supporters of the idea say that the separate beaches would allow observant Muslim women to shed their headscarves and long robes and enjoy the sun in privacy; religious restrictions otherwise oblige them to cover up if men are present.

    "I can only be in favor of such a proposal," said Tomas Corazza, manager of the Hotel Mediterraneo. "It allows them to use the beach while respecting their traditions and their religion."

    Corazza didn't have immediate plans to open a beach for Muslims this season but said he would advertise this new feature in a mailing list he sends to some 3,000 Arabs who are frequent guests at the hotel.

    Cenni said he was already discussing with authorities the only snag in the proposal _ the fact that the partitions won't reach into the sea but will have to stop short of the waterline to allow public passage.

    While Riccione's municipality would consider authorizing the construction of reserved seaside swimming pools, Cenni said he hopes he will be allowed to close-off the entire beach with covered partitions and have female lifeguards patrol the sea in water scooters to keep men away. In Italy, all shorelines must be accessible to the public.

    "That sounds a little bit like a fantasy," said Andrea Cicchetti, a spokesman for Riccione's mayor.

    But Cenni insists that if the partitions are mounted on isolated beaches the inconvenience to passers-by and swimmers will be minimal, allowing his guests to swim without having to don headscarves and robes again.

    "These are areas where there is little passage and any problem could be solved with common sense and sensitivity," he said. "We want to make a beach where these ladies will be free."


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    Default Re: Beach for Muslim Women Planned in Italy

    Quote Originally Posted by searchingsoul View Post
    By ARIEL DAVID
    Associated Press Writer


    ROME


    Hotels at an Italian seaside resort are eager to act on the town's decision to authorize the creation of all-female beach sections for Muslim women, with at least one hotel owner saying Friday that plans are already under way to open the first of such secluded areas next month.

    The city council of Riccione, a popular resort on Italy's Adriatic coast about 90 miles east of Florence, has said it is prepared to authorize requests to set up partitions on parts of the shoreline to satisfy requests from the town's growing numbers of Arab and Muslim tourists.

    "They can have anything they want, but they can't go to the beach, at least not without all those heavy clothes," Attilio Cenni, owner of the upscale Grand Hotel des Bains, said of his female Muslim guests.

    Cenni said he plans to open the first secluded section starting in September on a stretch of shoreline of about 1,000 square meters (10,000 square feet) and to expand further next season across the more isolated beaches on Riccione's outskirts.

    He also plans a TV advertising campaigns in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, Cenni told The Associated Press in a telephone interview.

    Popular with German and French tourists, Riccione's mass-tourism venues have recently started to attract thousands of Arab and Muslim visitors each year, mostly from the conservative Arabian peninsula, city officials say.

    Supporters of the idea say that the separate beaches would allow observant Muslim women to shed their headscarves and long robes and enjoy the sun in privacy; religious restrictions otherwise oblige them to cover up if men are present.

    "I can only be in favor of such a proposal," said Tomas Corazza, manager of the Hotel Mediterraneo. "It allows them to use the beach while respecting their traditions and their religion."

    Corazza didn't have immediate plans to open a beach for Muslims this season but said he would advertise this new feature in a mailing list he sends to some 3,000 Arabs who are frequent guests at the hotel.

    Cenni said he was already discussing with authorities the only snag in the proposal _ the fact that the partitions won't reach into the sea but will have to stop short of the waterline to allow public passage.

    While Riccione's municipality would consider authorizing the construction of reserved seaside swimming pools, Cenni said he hopes he will be allowed to close-off the entire beach with covered partitions and have female lifeguards patrol the sea in water scooters to keep men away. In Italy, all shorelines must be accessible to the public.

    "That sounds a little bit like a fantasy," said Andrea Cicchetti, a spokesman for Riccione's mayor.

    But Cenni insists that if the partitions are mounted on isolated beaches the inconvenience to passers-by and swimmers will be minimal, allowing his guests to swim without having to don headscarves and robes again.

    "These are areas where there is little passage and any problem could be solved with common sense and sensitivity," he said. "We want to make a beach where these ladies will be free."
    An idea, which never being thought in Muslim nations... I'm amazed...


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    Default Re: Beach for Muslim Women Planned in Italy

    as salaamu alaykum,

    An idea, which never being thought in Muslim nations... I'm amazed...
    One of my family members said there are womens beaches in the UAE!!...

    but somehow i don't trust them (those planning the womens beach day in italy)

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    Default Re: Beach for Muslim Women Planned in Italy

    If they have so many tourists from arab countries i think will worth. They will be more interested to spend the holidays in Italy.

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    Default Re: Beach for Muslim Women Planned in Italy

    Quote Originally Posted by amirah_87 View Post
    as salaamu alaykum,



    One of my family members said there are womens beaches in the UAE!!...

    but somehow i don't trust them (those planning the womens beach day in italy)
    There are such a beach? Wow... Malaysia should looking forward to do this too...90% of our Muslima wears hijab.


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    Default Re: Beach for Muslim Women Planned in Italy

    Quote Originally Posted by HusamLah
    another way to trap women and push them to abandon there faith---one step at a time

    The purpose of the proposal is profit.

    You're attitude is the reason why Muslims have difficulity living with non-muslims

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    Default Re: Beach for Muslim Women Planned in Italy

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe98 View Post
    The purpose of the proposal is profit.

    You're attitude is the reason why Muslims have difficulity living with non-muslims

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    Paradoxal, in view of the fact many of us live peacefully and productivly in Non-Muslim countries.





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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe98 View Post
    The purpose of the proposal is profit.

    You're attitude is the reason why Muslims have difficulity living with non-muslims

    Peace

    Alhamdulilah! I never had any problems with non-muslims .....we live together and we live in peace

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joe98 View Post
    The purpose of the proposal is profit.

    You're attitude is the reason why Muslims have difficulity living with non-muslims

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    Not every Muslim have the same attitude... I do welcome the 'beach' idea. It's good.


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    Default Re: Beach for Muslim Women Planned in Italy

    Quote Originally Posted by searchingsoul View Post
    By ARIEL DAVID
    Associated Press Writer


    ROME


    Hotels at an Italian seaside resort are eager to act on the town's decision to authorize the creation of all-female beach sections for Muslim women, with at least one hotel owner saying Friday that plans are already under way to open the first of such secluded areas next month.

    The city council of Riccione, a popular resort on Italy's Adriatic coast about 90 miles east of Florence, has said it is prepared to authorize requests to set up partitions on parts of the shoreline to satisfy requests from the town's growing numbers of Arab and Muslim tourists.

    "They can have anything they want, but they can't go to the beach, at least not without all those heavy clothes," Attilio Cenni, owner of the upscale Grand Hotel des Bains, said of his female Muslim guests.

    Cenni said he plans to open the first secluded section starting in September on a stretch of shoreline of about 1,000 square meters (10,000 square feet) and to expand further next season across the more isolated beaches on Riccione's outskirts.

    He also plans a TV advertising campaigns in Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, Cenni told The Associated Press in a telephone interview.

    Popular with German and French tourists, Riccione's mass-tourism venues have recently started to attract thousands of Arab and Muslim visitors each year, mostly from the conservative Arabian peninsula, city officials say.

    Supporters of the idea say that the separate beaches would allow observant Muslim women to shed their headscarves and long robes and enjoy the sun in privacy; religious restrictions otherwise oblige them to cover up if men are present.

    "I can only be in favor of such a proposal," said Tomas Corazza, manager of the Hotel Mediterraneo. "It allows them to use the beach while respecting their traditions and their religion."

    Corazza didn't have immediate plans to open a beach for Muslims this season but said he would advertise this new feature in a mailing list he sends to some 3,000 Arabs who are frequent guests at the hotel.

    Cenni said he was already discussing with authorities the only snag in the proposal _ the fact that the partitions won't reach into the sea but will have to stop short of the waterline to allow public passage.

    While Riccione's municipality would consider authorizing the construction of reserved seaside swimming pools, Cenni said he hopes he will be allowed to close-off the entire beach with covered partitions and have female lifeguards patrol the sea in water scooters to keep men away. In Italy, all shorelines must be accessible to the public.

    "That sounds a little bit like a fantasy," said Andrea Cicchetti, a spokesman for Riccione's mayor.

    But Cenni insists that if the partitions are mounted on isolated beaches the inconvenience to passers-by and swimmers will be minimal, allowing his guests to swim without having to don headscarves and robes again.

    "These are areas where there is little passage and any problem could be solved with common sense and sensitivity," he said. "We want to make a beach where these ladies will be free."
    Sounds good, but what i'm concerned about is that the women will not be very observant of their Awrah restrictions in front of other women.........

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    Default Re: Beach for Muslim Women Planned in Italy

    Quote Originally Posted by HusamLah
    another way to trap women and push them to abandon there faith---one step at a time
    By going to a female-only beach? How so?

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    The purpose of the proposal is profit.

    You're attitude is the reason why Muslims have difficulity living with non-muslims

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    Default Re: Beach for Muslim Women Planned in Italy



    cool idea!
    but it isnt even hard to swim with a hijab on


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    Default Re: Beach for Muslim Women Planned in Italy

    Quote Originally Posted by amani View Post


    but it isnt even hard to swim with a hijab on
    sister try it and let us know how you get on lol

    now now i think this is a good way of makin money & i agree with the post above that many of the ladies, may 4get their awrah infront of other women


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    Default Re: Beach for Muslim Women Planned in Italy

    I seem to recall that there used to be a very large beach area for women in Morocco. I forgot exactly where, but if memory serves me right it was on the Atlantic coast and about half way between Kenitra and Tangiers.

    I also recall several exclusivly female bathing areas on the Wadi that flows near Rabat.

    Perhaps we can learn from the Meditrannean countries as to what types of beaches are halaal for women and how they are operated. Possibly that is what the beach in Italy is attempting.





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    Default Re: Beach for Muslim Women Planned in Italy

    Quote Originally Posted by HusamLah
    the women will get too relaxed and enjoy their sinful freedoms

    It would be a women only beach. What are you worried about????

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