Shaving your beard to get a job.

*Ladan* · **Shaving your beard to get a job. -** 09-19-2006

Removing the Obstacle

A qualified medical worker from India emigrated to Canada to live a better life. This Muslim brother had a beard. He applied to many different places for a job and was called for interviews. Though he was highly qualified for the jobs, the interviewers hesitated to hire him because of his beard. One by one, he was rejected from all the companies. One interviewer actually mentioned to him indirectly that his beard was an obstacle to getting the job. Trully, it was a big test for him from Allah. Hopeless and exhausted, the brother decided to remove the obstacle, which was to shave off his beard. Then he returned to that company and requested for another interview. When the interviewer saw him without a beard this time, he refused to give him the job again. The brother became confused and asked to know the reason. The interviewer said "If you are not faithful to your God, how will you be faithful to us?"

This true incident was narrated to us by a friend who personally knows this brother, however, his identity will remain private. In reality, obeying the commandments of Allah does not bring failure. In the beginning, we may face various problems, but the end results will be very sweet. Prophet of Allah (SAW) also faced many problems in the beginning, but in the end, he saw how hundreds and thousands of people turned towards Allah for his steadfastness. Ibn 'Umar, may God be pleased with him, said: "The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and give him peace, ordered us to trim closely the mustache and leave the beard as it is (that is grow the beard)." (Reported in Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim.

Najiullah · **Re: Shaving your beard to get a job. -** 09-19-2006

subhanALlah great post
"If you are not faithful to your God, how will you be faithful to us?"

very true

**Muezzin** · **Re: Shaving your beard to get a job. -** 09-19-2006

True, but that interviewer sucked and wouldn't have given him the job anyway. Ah the pleasures of job seeking...

Kidman · **Re: Shaving your beard to get a job. -** 09-19-2006

By him shaving his beard, it means he put the job above Allah. If anything, he's more faithful for that job than Allah.

Kidman

wilberhum · **Re: Shaving your beard to get a job. -** 09-19-2006

Do you really believe stories like this?
I find them as credible as pork in Coke.

An employer will not hire someone because he is a Muslim and then says he won’t hire him because he doesn’t conceder him a good Muslim. I find that a bit illogical.

A qualified medical worker. Qualified to do what? Urban ledgers almost always use vague terms that severely limit the verification of there fabrication. Narrated to us by a friend who personally knows this brother. Seams a bit removed and of course, this person’s identity will remain private. That way the story can not be verified.
Notice too, where he is from and where he emigrated to, are vast areas making the story even less verifiable.

I don’t question for a minute that there is Islamaphobia in Canada, but every employer is bias against Muslims. I think not. But then, that’s just me.

Doesn’t Canada have discrimination laws? If that happened in the US, the employer would find himself in court. Of course CAIR is strong in Canada. If the story was true, I’m sure they would love to help.

snakelegs · **Re: Shaving your beard to get a job. -** 09-19-2006

well, i don't know what country you're in but in the u.s. there are a lot of sikh doctors, with full beard and turban.
i think the story is a bit fishy also.

north_malaysian · **Re: Shaving your beard to get a job. -** 09-20-2006

Never seen Malaysian soldiers with beards...... And I've heard some company wants their employees to shave.... plus in Malaysian public schools - NO BEARD!!!

Malaikah · **Re: Shaving your beard to get a job. -** 09-20-2006

wilberhum and snakelegs i think you totally missed the point, which was the MORAL of the story not the story it self... i very much doubt it is real as well (as if a kafir can come back with a response like that lol) but seriously who cares

and the moral isnt that the west hates muslims either, its about putting this life before pleasing God..

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Originally Posted by north_malaysian

Never seen Malaysian soldiers with beards...... And I've heard some company wants their employees to shave.... plus in Malaysian public schools - NO BEARD!!!

Malaysia has seriously lost the plot...

north_malaysian · **Re: Shaving your beard to get a job. -** 09-20-2006

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Originally Posted by cheese

Malaysia has seriously lost the plot...

It's not a problem actually because .... 90% of Malaysian Muslims believe that beard is not obligatory in Islam...

sacred_rose · **Re: Shaving your beard to get a job. -** 09-20-2006

is the beard obligatory and why wats the purpose of it anyway

also why do men who have strong imam have noor there are so beautiful mashallah i find them more attractive than men with no noor btw am i allowed to say stuff like this
soz if i offended anyone

thanks

north_malaysian · **Re: Shaving your beard to get a job. -** 09-20-2006

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Originally Posted by sacred_rose

is the beard obligatory and why wats the purpose of it anyway

also why do men who have strong imam have noor there are so beautiful mashallah i find them more attractive than men with no noor btw am i allowed to say stuff like this
soz if i offended anyone

thanks

'noor'? do you mean 'light'?

snakelegs · **Re: Shaving your beard to get a job. -** 09-20-2006

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Originally Posted by cheese

wilberhum and snakelegs i think you totally missed the point, which was the MORAL of the story not the story it self... i very much doubt it is real as well (as if a kafir can come back with a response like that lol) but seriously who cares

and the moral isnt that the west hates muslims either, its about putting this life before pleasing God..

Malaysia has seriously lost the plot...

i understood the MORAL of the story, but i think it would be much better if the story itself sounded more like something that could've actually happened.
just my opinion.

Curaezipirid · **Re: Shaving your beard to get a job. -** 09-20-2006

alaikumassalam

well I reckon it could have happened

but then I reckon that hair is the way to experiment with Allah's rulings for us, if anybody is so inclined

I mean if we are feeling testy then better rebel with our own hair than any other way; at least there is no denial then

mu'asalam

Malaikah · **Re: Shaving your beard to get a job. -** 09-20-2006

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Originally Posted by snakelegs

i understood the MORAL of the story, but i think it would be much better if the story itself sounded more like something that could've actually happened.
just my opinion.

lol i strongly agree

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"If you are not faithful to your God, how will you be faithful to us?"

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Ladan Limited Member Status: Offline Posts: 25 Reputation: 36 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Jul 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Shaving your beard to get a job. - 09-19-2006 Removing the Obstacle A qualified medical worker from India emigrated to Canada to live a better life. This Muslim brother had a beard. He applied to many different places for a job and was called for interviews. Though he was highly qualified for the jobs, the interviewers hesitated to hire him because of his beard. One by one, he was rejected from all the companies. One interviewer actually mentioned to him indirectly that his beard was an obstacle to getting the job. Trully, it was a big test for him from Allah. Hopeless and exhausted, the brother decided to remove the obstacle, which was to shave off his beard. Then he returned to that company and requested for another interview. When the interviewer saw him without a beard this time, he refused to give him the job again. The brother became confused and asked to know the reason. The interviewer said "If you are not faithful to your God, how will you be faithful to us?" This true incident was narrated to us by a friend who personally knows this brother, however, his identity will remain private. In reality, obeying the commandments of Allah does not bring failure. In the beginning, we may face various problems, but the end results will be very sweet. Prophet of Allah (SAW) also faced many problems in the beginning, but in the end, he saw how hundreds and thousands of people turned towards Allah for his steadfastness. Ibn 'Umar, may God be pleased with him, said: "The Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and give him peace, ordered us to trim closely the mustache and leave the beard as it is (that is grow the beard)." (Reported in Sahih al-Bukhari and Sahih Muslim.

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Najiullah IB Oldtimer Status: Offline Posts: 4,373 Reputation: 8058 Rep Power: 38 Join Date: Apr 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Shaving your beard to get a job. - 09-19-2006 subhanALlah great post "If you are not faithful to your God, how will you be faithful to us?" very true __________________ Haramain Salaat Recordings

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Muezzin Want cup of tea! Status: Offline Posts: 10,532 Reputation: 50478 Rep Power: 102 Join Date: Jun 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Shaving your beard to get a job. - 09-19-2006 True, but that interviewer sucked and wouldn't have given him the job anyway. Ah the pleasures of job seeking... __________________ Story Writing Contest Pay a visit to the masters of might, magic and Monday mornings Fedora-sporting userpage

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Kidman Soldier of Allah Status: Offline Posts: 416 Reputation: 626 Rep Power: 23 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Arizona Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Shaving your beard to get a job. - 09-19-2006 By him shaving his beard, it means he put the job above Allah. If anything, he's more faithful for that job than Allah. Kidman __________________ [img][/img]

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wilberhum Account Disabled Status: Offline Posts: 4,789 Reputation: 6956 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Seattle, Wa. USA Gender: Way of Life: Agnostic	Re: Shaving your beard to get a job. - 09-19-2006 Do you really believe stories like this? I find them as credible as pork in Coke. An employer will not hire someone because he is a Muslim and then says he won’t hire him because he doesn’t conceder him a good Muslim. I find that a bit illogical. A qualified medical worker. Qualified to do what? Urban ledgers almost always use vague terms that severely limit the verification of there fabrication. Narrated to us by a friend who personally knows this brother. Seams a bit removed and of course, this person’s identity will remain private. That way the story can not be verified. Notice too, where he is from and where he emigrated to, are vast areas making the story even less verifiable. I don’t question for a minute that there is Islamaphobia in Canada, but every employer is bias against Muslims. I think not. But then, that’s just me. Doesn’t Canada have discrimination laws? If that happened in the US, the employer would find himself in court. Of course CAIR is strong in Canada. If the story was true, I’m sure they would love to help.

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snakelegs nusrat fanatic Status: Offline Posts: 6,217 Reputation: 28595 Rep Power: 66 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: California Way of Life: Agnostic	Re: Shaving your beard to get a job. - 09-19-2006 well, i don't know what country you're in but in the u.s. there are a lot of sikh doctors, with full beard and turban. i think the story is a bit fishy also. __________________ each man thinks of his own fleas as gazelles question authority

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north_malaysian IB Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 8,459 Reputation: 22729 Rep Power: 61 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Penang Island, Malaysia Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Shaving your beard to get a job. - 09-20-2006 Never seen Malaysian soldiers with beards...... And I've heard some company wants their employees to shave.... plus in Malaysian public schools - NO BEARD!!! __________________ Assalamualaykum... I am back!!

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sacred_rose PrInCeSs_In_DeSgUiSe Status: Offline Posts: 189 Reputation: 176 Rep Power: 21 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: inshallah in jannah Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Shaving your beard to get a job. - 09-20-2006 is the beard obligatory and why wats the purpose of it anyway also why do men who have strong imam have noor there are so beautiful mashallah i find them more attractive than men with no noor btw am i allowed to say stuff like this soz if i offended anyone thanks

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Curaezipirid Hi! that I am this Status: Offline Posts: 976 Reputation: 972 Rep Power: 23 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: born Armidale 1968 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Shaving your beard to get a job. - 09-20-2006 alaikumassalam well I reckon it could have happened but then I reckon that hair is the way to experiment with Allah's rulings for us, if anybody is so inclined I mean if we are feeling testy then better rebel with our own hair than any other way; at least there is no denial then mu'asalam __________________ Within the Realm of King Solomon Who could have known I was home grown An accuser's false allegation Did warrant only my Nation in apology for inconveniences its shaytan leeches who accuse my unconscious sleep of accusing you too cheep I will be selling for five times three centsiblity