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| Extremophile Status: Offline Posts: 6,782 Reputation: 27618 Rep Power: 68 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swimming with thermus aquaticus in Yellowstone National Park Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Is that really a true story? Amazing read! Thanks for sharing. ![]() |
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| IB Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 5,376 Reputation: 9219 Rep Power: 38 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oklahoma, USA Gender: Way of Life: Christian | The Inquisition was brutal with everyone, Christian, Muslim, and Jew alike. It was a response to the spread of the Protestant Reformation in large part. Martin Luther and John Calvin attempted to change the Catholic Church, and the Catholic Church responded with brute force to secure its hold. I'm not anti-Catholic, far from it, but this was the darkest chapter in Catholic history.
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| IB Oldtimer Status: Offline Posts: 1,847 Reputation: 7905 Rep Power: 34 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Leicester, UK Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
it was brought brutally into force in all areas newly conquered from the muslims, who had previously allowed non conformist christians and jews to practice their faith also so all three communities were suppressed and forced to convert or die. or in the case of many muslims and jews, convert and then die later in forced marches and transportations just. what is incorrect is that this event be viewed as a one off, the catholic church has been at this since its very beginnings, killing and murdering, torturing and doing other terrible things. Abu Abdullah | |
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| IB Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 5,376 Reputation: 9219 Rep Power: 38 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Oklahoma, USA Gender: Way of Life: Christian | Quote:
"Imagination was given to man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humor was provided to console him for what he is."
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| Ummah Under 1 Banner Status: Offline Posts: 10,870 Reputation: 48800 Rep Power: 100 Join Date: May 2005 Location: ...travelling to the hereafter.. Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Ukhti, is there any more?.. Islamic-Life.com Bringing Dawah back..to life! http://salaf-stories.blogspot.com http://seerah-stories.blogspot.com http://ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe |
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| IB Oldtimer Status: Offline Posts: 1,847 Reputation: 7905 Rep Power: 34 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Leicester, UK Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
the follow up to it is 'islam in andalus,' and shows the rise and fall of islam in spain, warts and all. obviously they are both by a muslim but i understand he used to be a christian priest so can see both sides of the debate. Abu Abdullah | |
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| IB Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 503 Reputation: 1431 Rep Power: 21 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: "the land which We have blessed for the nations."(21:71) Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Peace be upon you all: in fact .. I estimate your view and I believe that you are right You have preference to said that .. When you see who killes their brother and sister in humanity In the name of Islam .. You have right to say that Please read this koranic vers: "Let there be no compulsion in religion: truth stands out clear from error: whoever rejects evil and believes in God hath grasped the most trustworthy hand hold, never breaks. and God heareth and knoweth all things."That's what God order us to do .. That is the real islam In the other side I believe that jesus peace be upon him doesn't ask you to do that … But all this crimes that happened in the past in the name of christian is truth you can't disprove it I want you all moslems and christian to look with your heart to each other as human This story is happened every day in Palestine .. Iraq .. Shishan .. And others Why we should suffer jews faults and sins .. Now after 3000 years? Why we can't just dreaming to return to Andalus that we lost either becouse of our faults and sins ..Only after 700 years? Why all the world confirm jews right to reoccupy palastine now? Why we can't just said that we have right to regain cordoba to be mosque? What jews gave to us except damage, kill, recism and poverty? What we give to Andalus except knowledge, fairness, improvement, civilzation? Both make mistakes and leave the godly legislation .. Why this partial view? So .. let's use our humanity to love,understand,compassionate, recognize each other.. Moslems .. Christians .. Jews. Let's judge on each other religion by it's precepts not by it's follower deed. …peace |
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| Ummah Under 1 Banner Status: Offline Posts: 10,870 Reputation: 48800 Rep Power: 100 Join Date: May 2005 Location: ...travelling to the hereafter.. Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
Subhaan Allaah.. thats really true. Islamic-Life.com Bringing Dawah back..to life! http://salaf-stories.blogspot.com http://seerah-stories.blogspot.com http://ahlalhdeeth.com/vbe | |
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| Catholic Status: Offline Posts: 1,214 Reputation: 2564 Rep Power: 26 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kiawah Island, SC Gender: Way of Life: Christian | hola, what is this thread for... nothing good can come of this... why do muslims say they do not believe in violence but say horrible things about jews, celebrate what they did to spain and talk about how they want it to happen again? i do not mean this as a counterpunch, but i understand the setting seems this way... i am genuinely afraid of you when you talk about these things because of what you are saying, the things you seem to believe about muslim expansion in spain, and how eager you seem to be for a return of this... Dios te bendiga |
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| IB Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 5,903 Reputation: 24453 Rep Power: 60 Join Date: Jan 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
The path is long but I hope we meet, After the grave and the Day, in paradise in bliss upon a reclined seat. A traveler traveling - travelled from shirk to tawheed, If I'm remembered for anything - let it be the Mercy I seek. Your Bro. Abu Hurayra, al-Habeshi | |
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| Slave of Allaah Status: Offline Posts: 4,825 Reputation: 46280 Rep Power: 91 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: on a Journey... Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | I thought it was a very interesting read... not only was it a glimpse of history but also an insight into the lives of those who held on to their faith and were forced to practice in secret. The Inquisition has already been discussed elsewhere on the forum so it would perhaps be best to avoid the subject here. Quote:
{...And indeed it is a Book of exalted power. No falsehood can approach it from before or behind it: It is sent down by One Full of Wisdom, Worthy of all Praise.} [Fussilat: 41-42] Islamic Newsletters: http://www.islamleicester.com/Conten...7/Default.aspx If I make a mistake then please correct me, and if I have said something wrong then please forgive me. | |
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| Catholic Status: Offline Posts: 1,214 Reputation: 2564 Rep Power: 26 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kiawah Island, SC Gender: Way of Life: Christian | Quote:
yes... this is my impression... you all talk about the muslim conquest of spain or other places as though they were good things and you want them to come back... on another thread somebody told an inappropriate joke about killing british troops and there is frequent slander about jewish people... in my mind, or how it was explained to me, islam does not delight in violence and muslims considered the conquest of innocent people during its history to be missteps... also, as it was explained to me vitriol directed to jewish people is born out of ignorance... not religion... but these historic misteps are talked about longingly... and this viewpoint of jewish people and delight in killing enemies is freely said and very rarely opposed except in the most extreme or gross examples... this concerns me a lot, because i do not know how much of this is misguidance and pride, or if what was explained to me was just wrong. but this is not here or there, i want to know why muslims have these conflicting mindsets so comfortably... the conquest was not peaceful, but you say islam means peace, why do you cherish a virtue and the fruits of its opposing vice at the same time? muchos gracias, Dios te bendiga | |
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