Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!)

Malaikah · **Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) -** 02-09-2007

Some of you might have heard of Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (Musaylimah the liar), a man who claimed to be a Prophet himself during the Prophet's (pbuh) time.

Well, here is an example of his 'Quran' which he made up, is this hilarious or what.

They have mentioned that `Amr bin Al-`As went to visit Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab after the Messenger of Allah was commissioned (as a Prophet) and before `Amr had accepted Islam. Upon his arrival, Musaylimah said to him,

"What has been revealed to your friend (Muhammad ) during this time''

`Amr said, "A short and concise Surah has been revealed to him.''

Musaylimah then said, "What is it'' `Amr replied;

﴿وَالْعَصْرِ - إِنَّ الإِنسَـنَ لَفِى خُسْرٍ - إِلاَّ الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ وَعَمِلُواْ الصَّـلِحَـتِ وَتَوَاصَوْاْ بِالْحَقِّ وَتَوَاصَوْاْ بِالصَّبْرِ ﴾

(By Al-`Asr. Verily, man is in loss. Except those who believe and do righteous deeds, and recommend one another to the truth, and recommend one another to patience.)

So Musaylimah thought for a while. Then he said, "Indeed something similar has also been revealed to me.''

`Amr asked him, "What is it''

He replied, "O Wabr (a small, furry mammal; hyrax), O Wabr! You are only two ears and a chest, and the rest of you is digging and burrowing.''

Then he said, "What do you think, O `Amr''

So `Amr said to him, "By Allah! Verily, you know that I know you are lying.''

The Wabr is a small animal that resembles a cat, and the largest thing on it is its ears and its torso, while the rest of it is ugly. Musaylimah intended by the composition of these nonsensical verses to produce something which would oppose the Qur'an. Yet, it was not even convincing to the idol worshipper of that time.

(From Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Surat al-Asr)

ehha · **Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) -** 02-09-2007

interestting

- Qatada - · **Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) -** 02-09-2007

lol subhaan Allaah!

this is a hyrax by the way:

Malaikah · **Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) -** 02-09-2007

aw it's cute... honestly... that was the lamest attempts of a forging a surah I've ever seen... he has some others too that I heard, they were just as silly, but I haven't got them on my at the moment.

Mawaddah · **Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) -** 02-09-2007

Yeah I remember learning this before.

The whole class was laughing when the teacher read it off

Malaikah · **Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) -** 02-09-2007

Did you hear it in Arabic? It must have sounded so much funnier!

I love when he said: Verily, you know that I know you are lying.

lol how embarrassing.

- Qatada - · **Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) -** 02-09-2007

I think his others were about food, and people said it's like he thinks using his stomach.. there was one about a frog too. Not sure about the sources but i heard Anwar al-Awlaki mention them in the Abu Bakr Series i think.

Malaikah · **Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) -** 02-09-2007

^Oh yeh! I remember someone made a comment him about his "Quran" being revealed to his stomach or something like that LOL.

Mawaddah · **Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) -** 02-09-2007

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Originally Posted by Malaikah

Did you hear it in Arabic? It must have sounded so much funnier!

I love when he said: Verily, you know that I know you are lying.

lol how embarrassing.

Ye! It was a poem like in Arabic, I'll see if I can find it insha'allah.

I mean, at least come up with something that makes sense, why talk about something like that?

Faizah · **Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) -** 02-09-2007

I heard that one about the frog aswell.^^^

Mawaddah · **Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) -** 02-09-2007

I found something interesting about him

Here :

فأظهر الله كذبه ولصق به لقب الكذاب، وأراد إظهار كرامات تشبه معجزات النبي ، فقد ذكر ابن كثير في البداية أنه بصق في بئر فغاض ماؤها، وفي أخرى فصار ماؤها أجاجاً، وسقى بوضوئه نخلا فيبست، وأتى بولدان يبرك عليهم فمسح على رؤسهم فمنهم من قرع رأسه ومنهم من لثغ لسانه، ودعا لرجل أصابه وجع في عينيه فمسحهما فعمي.

Allah exposed his lies and from then on the title of 'The Liar' has always been associated with his name. He wished to show miracles (to the people) similar to the Miracles of the Prophet (peace be upon him)

Ibn Katheer has mentioned in His Book Al-Bidaayah that he (Musailimah) Spat in a well, and its water dwindled and dried up. And he spat in another well and that water turned to bitter salty water.
He watered a date tree with the excess water from his Wudhoo' and the tree dried up and died.
Two boys were brought to him so that he may bless them and so he wiped their heads with his hand, as a result of that, the head of one of them became bald and the other developed a speech defect.
A man who was suffering from an ailment in his eyes came to him (for a cure) but when he wiped them, the man became blind

Amazing or what

Malaikah · **Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) -** 02-10-2007

Wow!! Those poor misguided people, I hope after that they realised that Musaylimah was a liar!

- Qatada - · **Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) -** 02-10-2007

I read a hadith that a man was executed under Abdullah Ibn Mas'ood when he was governor of Kufa or something.. so some people still may have still claimed to believe in him due to assabiya [nationalism, tribalism etc.] Allaahu a'lam.

Malaikah · **Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) -** 02-10-2007

Yeh, that is true. In fact there was one guy who said to him something like: I know you are a liar, but a liar from so-and-so tribe is better than an honest man from Quraish.

Can you believe someone would actually say that.

- Qatada - · **Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) -** 02-10-2007

Probably because the 'arabs had never heard of the concept of a Prophet before, but now that they realised that not even kings have been able to gain so much power & unite the arabs, so the only thing left is to be a prophet.

I think it was Bani Hanifa where Al-Khadhaab was from so they probably wanted strong power/authority aswell instead of the Quraysh. Allaahu a'lam.

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Malaikah Extremophile Status: Offline Posts: 6,533 Reputation: 23260 Rep Power: 55 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swimming with thermus aquaticus in Yellowstone National Park Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) - 02-09-2007 Some of you might have heard of Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (Musaylimah the liar), a man who claimed to be a Prophet himself during the Prophet's (pbuh) time. Well, here is an example of his 'Quran' which he made up, is this hilarious or what. They have mentioned that `Amr bin Al-`As went to visit Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab after the Messenger of Allah was commissioned (as a Prophet) and before `Amr had accepted Islam. Upon his arrival, Musaylimah said to him, "What has been revealed to your friend (Muhammad ) during this time'' `Amr said, "A short and concise Surah has been revealed to him.'' Musaylimah then said, "What is it'' `Amr replied; ﴿وَالْعَصْرِ - إِنَّ الإِنسَـنَ لَفِى خُسْرٍ - إِلاَّ الَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ وَعَمِلُواْ الصَّـلِحَـتِ وَتَوَاصَوْاْ بِالْحَقِّ وَتَوَاصَوْاْ بِالصَّبْرِ ﴾ (By Al-`Asr. Verily, man is in loss. Except those who believe and do righteous deeds, and recommend one another to the truth, and recommend one another to patience.) So Musaylimah thought for a while. Then he said, "Indeed something similar has also been revealed to me.'' `Amr asked him, "What is it'' He replied, "O Wabr (a small, furry mammal; hyrax), O Wabr! You are only two ears and a chest, and the rest of you is digging and burrowing.'' Then he said, "What do you think, O `Amr'' So `Amr said to him, "By Allah! Verily, you know that I know you are lying.'' The Wabr is a small animal that resembles a cat, and the largest thing on it is its ears and its torso, while the rest of it is ugly. Musaylimah intended by the composition of these nonsensical verses to produce something which would oppose the Qur'an. Yet, it was not even convincing to the idol worshipper of that time. (From Tafsir Ibn Kathir, Surat al-Asr) __________________

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ehha Member Status: Offline Posts: 75 Reputation: 278 Rep Power: 12 Join Date: Nov 2006 Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) - 02-09-2007 interestting

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- Qatada - Ummah Under 1 Banner Status: Offline Posts: 10,237 Reputation: 40140 Rep Power: 81 Join Date: May 2005 Location: ...travelling to the hereafter.. Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) - 02-09-2007 lol subhaan Allaah! this is a hyrax by the way: __________________ iDawah.com Bringing Dawah back..to the future!

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Malaikah Extremophile Status: Offline Posts: 6,533 Reputation: 23260 Rep Power: 55 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swimming with thermus aquaticus in Yellowstone National Park Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) - 02-09-2007 aw it's cute... honestly... that was the lamest attempts of a forging a surah I've ever seen... he has some others too that I heard, they were just as silly, but I haven't got them on my at the moment. __________________

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Mawaddah Patience is the Key Status: Offline Posts: 4,193 Reputation: 13883 Rep Power: 38 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Currently in Malaysia Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) - 02-09-2007 Yeah I remember learning this before. The whole class was laughing when the teacher read it off

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Malaikah Extremophile Status: Offline Posts: 6,533 Reputation: 23260 Rep Power: 55 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swimming with thermus aquaticus in Yellowstone National Park Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) - 02-09-2007 Did you hear it in Arabic? It must have sounded so much funnier! I love when he said: Verily, you know that I know you are lying. lol how embarrassing. __________________

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- Qatada - Ummah Under 1 Banner Status: Offline Posts: 10,237 Reputation: 40140 Rep Power: 81 Join Date: May 2005 Location: ...travelling to the hereafter.. Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) - 02-09-2007 I think his others were about food, and people said it's like he thinks using his stomach.. there was one about a frog too. Not sure about the sources but i heard Anwar al-Awlaki mention them in the Abu Bakr Series i think. __________________ iDawah.com Bringing Dawah back..to the future!

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Malaikah Extremophile Status: Offline Posts: 6,533 Reputation: 23260 Rep Power: 55 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swimming with thermus aquaticus in Yellowstone National Park Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) - 02-09-2007 ^Oh yeh! I remember someone made a comment him about his "Quran" being revealed to his stomach or something like that LOL. __________________

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Faizah Min Ahlil Hadeeth Status: Offline Posts: 7,271 Reputation: 28233 Rep Power: 62 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: ~ Daar as-Sa'aadah ~ Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) - 02-09-2007 I heard that one about the frog aswell.^^^

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Mawaddah Patience is the Key Status: Offline Posts: 4,193 Reputation: 13883 Rep Power: 38 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Currently in Malaysia Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) - 02-09-2007 I found something interesting about him Here : فأظهر الله كذبه ولصق به لقب الكذاب، وأراد إظهار كرامات تشبه معجزات النبي ، فقد ذكر ابن كثير في البداية أنه بصق في بئر فغاض ماؤها، وفي أخرى فصار ماؤها أجاجاً، وسقى بوضوئه نخلا فيبست، وأتى بولدان يبرك عليهم فمسح على رؤسهم فمنهم من قرع رأسه ومنهم من لثغ لسانه، ودعا لرجل أصابه وجع في عينيه فمسحهما فعمي. Allah exposed his lies and from then on the title of 'The Liar' has always been associated with his name. He wished to show miracles (to the people) similar to the Miracles of the Prophet (peace be upon him) Ibn Katheer has mentioned in His Book Al-Bidaayah that he (Musailimah) Spat in a well, and its water dwindled and dried up. And he spat in another well and that water turned to bitter salty water. He watered a date tree with the excess water from his Wudhoo' and the tree dried up and died. Two boys were brought to him so that he may bless them and so he wiped their heads with his hand, as a result of that, the head of one of them became bald and the other developed a speech defect. A man who was suffering from an ailment in his eyes came to him (for a cure) but when he wiped them, the man became blind Amazing or what

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Malaikah Extremophile Status: Offline Posts: 6,533 Reputation: 23260 Rep Power: 55 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swimming with thermus aquaticus in Yellowstone National Park Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) - 02-10-2007 Wow!! Those poor misguided people, I hope after that they realised that Musaylimah was a liar! __________________

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- Qatada - Ummah Under 1 Banner Status: Offline Posts: 10,237 Reputation: 40140 Rep Power: 81 Join Date: May 2005 Location: ...travelling to the hereafter.. Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) - 02-10-2007 I read a hadith that a man was executed under Abdullah Ibn Mas'ood when he was governor of Kufa or something.. so some people still may have still claimed to believe in him due to assabiya [nationalism, tribalism etc.] Allaahu a'lam. __________________ iDawah.com Bringing Dawah back..to the future!

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Malaikah Extremophile Status: Offline Posts: 6,533 Reputation: 23260 Rep Power: 55 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swimming with thermus aquaticus in Yellowstone National Park Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) - 02-10-2007 Yeh, that is true. In fact there was one guy who said to him something like: I know you are a liar, but a liar from so-and-so tribe is better than an honest man from Quraish. Can you believe someone would actually say that. __________________

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- Qatada - Ummah Under 1 Banner Status: Offline Posts: 10,237 Reputation: 40140 Rep Power: 81 Join Date: May 2005 Location: ...travelling to the hereafter.. Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Musaylimah Al-Kadhdhab (the liar!) - 02-10-2007 Probably because the 'arabs had never heard of the concept of a Prophet before, but now that they realised that not even kings have been able to gain so much power & unite the arabs, so the only thing left is to be a prophet. I think it was Bani Hanifa where Al-Khadhaab was from so they probably wanted strong power/authority aswell instead of the Quraysh. Allaahu a'lam. __________________ iDawah.com Bringing Dawah back..to the future!