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Default Re: Misunderstanding About Islam - 03-07-2007

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We have plenty of threads already on the topic of Kashmir in the World Affairs section. If this thread is not headed for a productive course then it may as well be closed.

I would also like to clarify that we do not defend unislamic actions pertaining to violence and injustice. An action is wrong regardless of who the perpetrator happens to be.
I am not sure you can use the word, 'We', in this situation. You may not, but it appears that some have.
   
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Default Re: Misunderstanding About Islam - 03-07-2007

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on the Kashmir issue they're right at least
Just more, We are right, everyone else is wrong.
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If Hindus are right, then they should prove it.
Why don't Muslims "Prove It"? Oh I forgot, Muslims are always right.
   
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Millions of Kashmir Muslims have been killed by the Indian army.
And Millions of Kashmir Indians have been killed by Muslims.
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It's the Indians who termed the Kashmiri freedom fighters as terrorists.
The Indians and the rest of the non-Muslim world. Oh, I forgot, they can't be terrorists, there Muslims.
   
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Just more, We are right, everyone else is wrong.

Why don't Muslims "Prove It"? Oh I forgot, Muslims are always right.
Muslims already proved it when they got Pakistan on table. They want to prove it also for Kashmir. If you want to prove them wrong then don't tell your leadership to run away from the table. Nobody but you proved yourself wrong with this kind of behaviour.
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I am not sure you can use the word, 'We', in this situation. You may not, but it appears that some have.
Yes, few members may have done when they shouldn't have. But we as a forum do not accept this.
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Muslims already proved it

That must have happened when the world wasn't watching.

Anyway, you have the right to live in your little world where every thing you like is perfect and everything you don't like is wrong.

I won't burst your bubble.

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That must have happened when the world wasn't watching.

Anyway, you have the right to live in your little world where every thing you like is perfect and everything you don't like is wrong.

I won't burst your bubble.

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Do you mean to say that the world was sleeping during the liberation movement of India? Do you think the world will not be watching when Indian and Pak leadership discuss the issue of Kashmir on table and you fear that Pakistan will snatch Kashmir from the hands of Indian leadership even if these are held in India?

What kind of big world you live where everything you grab by force or cheating is perfect and everything others take from you through political dialogue by proving that belonged to them is wrong.
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This article is good at representing a particular world view, but doesn't really face the realities of the situation. I found it very disingenious that the article mentioned a terrorist act committed by a Jewish settler, but not the opposite side of the coin. Muslims aren't the only "victims" in the world and have in fact created as many victims as they have produced, IMO. Of course many Muslims are being victimized globally, just as many Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, and athiests are being victimized. This article devotes one sentence to the violent acts of Muslims, referring to them as "fringe groups". While I don't have a problem with that assumption, I think the article is a little less than honest about the complexity of the situation overall.
i agree with this - it was over-simplified and one-sided.
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i agree with this - it was over-simplified and one-sided.
I also think it is one sided and simplified like most of the articles are supposed to be. It's posted here by somebody for debate. Members with a different view point can post their opion and their views about the same issue. This would give us more opportunity to learn from many angles. Moreover, members will be able to know about many other issues while discussing one topic. For example many members might have learnt something about the Kashmir issue and Hindu attitude towards Muslims in the sub-continent during the same thread. We can learn about a lot of more issues during a debate on any one issue.
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Default Re: Misunderstanding About Islam - 03-08-2007

Although we should look at "both sides," in general, people really dont. We are blasted more with what Muslims do than what others do. And u cant deny that. Anyways, can we get back to article, please?
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Although we should look at "both sides," in general, people really dont. We are blasted more with what Muslims do than what others do. And u cant deny that. Anyways, can we get back to article, please?
that's true too.
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Although we should look at "both sides," in general, people really dont. We are blasted more with what Muslims do than what others do. And u cant deny that. Anyways, can we get back to article, please?
You've a very good observation. People don't look at both sides. It's not completely the fault of the people only if they don't look at both sides. They're taught like this. Teachings of sentimentalism, patriotism, and religious extremism have damaged the brains and circumcised their vision. The educated youth have developed a tunnel vision at a very early age. They cannot see light anywhere except at the other end of the tunnel (in the next world). For them everything around them in this world is dark or blacked out. This kind of thinking normally develops at the very old age when a person is on the deathbed and is left with no future in this world. He satisfies him/herself with the imaginations of ones future in the next world. The institutions for teaching sentimentalism in Muslims have brought the young Muslims to their deathbeds where they see themselves as only victims and all others only aggressors. They’re not ready to believe that there’re some good or nice people on the other side as well as there’re some bad elements on their side who teach them sentimentalism and promote hatred not only against others, but against each other.
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btw, i think this article is quite old, cos it mentions Saddam
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