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| Greetings Status: Offline Posts: 190 Reputation: 402 Rep Power: 4 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada Gender: Way of Life: Atheist | Quote:
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| LI Oldtimer Status: Offline Posts: 531 Reputation: 2202 Rep Power: 26 Join Date: Feb 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
(1) You don't like drugs but I'll force you to take drugs as that is the only acceptable way. (2) If you can't do that, then you have no right to force your opinion on people who take drugs since see I showed you can't change what you like either. It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, and obedience to Allâh, etc.) that you turn your faces towards east and (or) west (in prayers); but Al-Birr is (the quality of) the one who believes in Allâh, the Last Day, the Angels, the Book, the Prophets and gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to the kinsfolk, to the orphans, and to Al-Masâkîn (the poor), and to the wayfarer, and to those who ask, and to set slaves free, performs As-Salât, and gives the Zakât, and keep their word whenever they make a promise, and who are patient in extreme poverty and ailment (disease) and at the time of persecution, hardship, and war. Such are the people of the truth and they are Al-Muttaqûn (the pious). | |
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| LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 401 Reputation: 1674 Rep Power: 9 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: New York Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
But let me go along with your pseudo noble charade for a moment do you think BESTIALITY should be condemned? You are logically obligated to follow through. This question goes to all you "accepting" atheists. DO you think bestiality is alright? | |
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| Greetings Status: Offline Posts: 190 Reputation: 402 Rep Power: 4 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada Gender: Way of Life: Atheist | Quote:
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Homosexuality is different. You have two people who are o.k. with one another and in the end aren't hurting anyone. | ||
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| LI Oldtimer Status: Offline Posts: 531 Reputation: 2202 Rep Power: 26 Join Date: Feb 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | What exactly? Your analogy was problematic as I explained, which you didn't address. By the analogy of yours we should allow drugs too.
__________________It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, and obedience to Allâh, etc.) that you turn your faces towards east and (or) west (in prayers); but Al-Birr is (the quality of) the one who believes in Allâh, the Last Day, the Angels, the Book, the Prophets and gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to the kinsfolk, to the orphans, and to Al-Masâkîn (the poor), and to the wayfarer, and to those who ask, and to set slaves free, performs As-Salât, and gives the Zakât, and keep their word whenever they make a promise, and who are patient in extreme poverty and ailment (disease) and at the time of persecution, hardship, and war. Such are the people of the truth and they are Al-Muttaqûn (the pious). |
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| Greetings Status: Offline Posts: 190 Reputation: 402 Rep Power: 4 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada Gender: Way of Life: Atheist | |
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| LI Oldtimer Status: Offline Posts: 531 Reputation: 2202 Rep Power: 26 Join Date: Feb 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | You are still not addressing the drug analogy. Explain why your analogy is different than the drugs analogy. Or you believe drugs should be allowed freely?
__________________It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, and obedience to Allâh, etc.) that you turn your faces towards east and (or) west (in prayers); but Al-Birr is (the quality of) the one who believes in Allâh, the Last Day, the Angels, the Book, the Prophets and gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to the kinsfolk, to the orphans, and to Al-Masâkîn (the poor), and to the wayfarer, and to those who ask, and to set slaves free, performs As-Salât, and gives the Zakât, and keep their word whenever they make a promise, and who are patient in extreme poverty and ailment (disease) and at the time of persecution, hardship, and war. Such are the people of the truth and they are Al-Muttaqûn (the pious). |
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| my happy teletubbies Status: Offline Posts: 451 Reputation: 543 Rep Power: 3 Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Dangerous World Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | talk bout Gay or homosex/lesbian....is normal in modern world...what gonna say is: A uzubillahi minas syaitanir Rajim.... before i opening my sentences... Bismillah hir rahma nir rahim...... Allahumma solliala muhammad wa ala ali muhammad... Talk bout this issue about same sex love or Gay....is prohibited by Allah...since time oF Luth (Sodom and Gomorrah)..cause sodomy is really a huge punishment from Allah..., We dont choose to be Gay/lesbian/penkid...? in the modern situation,people get lotsa abused by their friends and family oF same sex to make love with them...and later on sooner they will be like this... people dont like themselves to change to she male,or tomboy... and etc....people are forced to be like this cauSe is like a habits....u cant changed if wanna change,Can! must take lotsa time....u can prevail yourself and follow some good people what can i say Good samaritan to religion classes to learn bout religion and stay up with friend that heterosexual or straight women or men...!.....u can going to psycologist for counseling...is better purposed....and trying to change our thinking and attitude is the important..and so make up...and make that change...so how we can resist change? so we must pray to God to avoid sodomy or Zina...is Haram!....and steadfast in our 5 times prayer....and do lotsa zikir...for muslim....and christian we can priest or cathechism class teacher for help and counseling... No one like to be Gay....except they want to be like that....and they said they are like that...strong in ya heart u can make the change...insyaallah! Alleluia to the Christian! |
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| P3ACE. Status: Offline Posts: 229 Reputation: 1152 Rep Power: 7 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: America. Hah, R3PR3$3NT Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
What are you talking about? Let me have my own opinions, mom. Are you gay? Attack life, it's going to kill you anyways | |
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| Account Disabled Status: Offline Posts: 3,571 Reputation: 16416 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Warrington, England Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | |
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| Greetings Status: Offline Posts: 190 Reputation: 402 Rep Power: 4 Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada Gender: Way of Life: Atheist | Quote:
If homosexuals get married, how does it affect you? It doesn't. Let them do what they want as long as they are happy and aren't negatively affecting anything. | |
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| Yes I am Grouchy! Status: Offline Posts: 7,856 Reputation: 52913 Rep Power: 88 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: In the Rictus of Revenge Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | This thread has completely diverted from its original path..
__________________let's recap then we can close it! two opinions, you can fall into the category of choice and let it rest! Being gay is a form of sexual deviation, as originally defined by the DSM before the new age wave... It is a sin religiousely speaking! No more on the matter needs to be said.. Like knowing that pre-marital or extra marital sex is wrong without an institution or consciousely disengaging from a pederast act with a consenting 13 year old, or taking more than one consenting wife, you understand the difference of what it is against religious law and what goes against state law.. On the other hand, you can let 'state law' define your morality and are ok with homosexuals gyrating their bodies whilst wearing blindingly colorful speedos in front of your three year olds, because they really can't help it... Homosexuality isn't a choice to you, and certainly we have seen examples of that when ann heche decided she was no longer a lesbian, left her female lover Ellen DeGeneres to become hetrosexual again, or when George Micheal decided to forgo women for lewd acts in public for which he was arrested more than once... No, it is as the scans on those ninty folks tell us, an inborn trait.. with that I hope we are done here! For the skeptic, no amount of proof will be enough, and for the believer, no amount of proof is necessary. Tous articles prohibés sont sujets à saisie ![]() |
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| LI Oldtimer Status: Offline Posts: 531 Reputation: 2202 Rep Power: 26 Join Date: Feb 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Some corrections for what you put in brackets.
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It was a parallel to your analogy that you were giving to the sister here. How does drug additicts taking drugs affect me either? It is not Al-Birr (piety, righteousness, and obedience to Allâh, etc.) that you turn your faces towards east and (or) west (in prayers); but Al-Birr is (the quality of) the one who believes in Allâh, the Last Day, the Angels, the Book, the Prophets and gives his wealth, in spite of love for it, to the kinsfolk, to the orphans, and to Al-Masâkîn (the poor), and to the wayfarer, and to those who ask, and to set slaves free, performs As-Salât, and gives the Zakât, and keep their word whenever they make a promise, and who are patient in extreme poverty and ailment (disease) and at the time of persecution, hardship, and war. Such are the people of the truth and they are Al-Muttaqûn (the pious). | ||
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| Eesa Abdullah Status: Offline Posts: 5,784 Reputation: 22602 Rep Power: 51 Join Date: Jan 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Has this thread not run its course?
__________________إتبعوا ولا تبتدعوا، فقدكفيتم، وكل بدعة ضلالة Follow (the Sunnah) and do not innovate (into it), for verily you have been sufficed. And every innovation is a misguidance. Confused about which religion is true? How can I know? Come and check out some proposed fundamental principles (#1 , #2) to aid you in making a decision. |
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