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Default Re: Scans see 'gay brain differences' - 06-27-2008

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I think you're just trying to play on the extra revulsion factor that muslims will have towards drug use.
We have a mind reader here

Your comment is red herring, but I'll tell why I choose drugs example:
(1) Not choosing drugs is healthier choice, same goes for homosexuality.
(2) Brain factor is same for both: homosexuals and drug addicts.

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He was illustrating that one can't choose who they're sexually attracted to. Try it out.
I'm not gonna try heroin either, whats the point really?

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So different people are susceptible to different things, where are you going with that?
Brain of drug addicts are different too like homosexuals, but drug addicts have a choice and homosexuals don't? I don't see the logic here. Shouldn't it be same for both?

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Is pumping out babies somehow more worthy than being a productive citizen in an economic sense? What does population growth have to do with morality?
You need to be more specific. It should be with moderation and balance, but when countries start to pay thousands per birth, there is something apparently going wrong.

Muslim countries have their problems too, different ones, which they need to work on and they don't need other problems. This will only add to their financial problems. It is adding to health costs and insurance in developed nations.

Btw, population and size is directly related to economics e.g. China vs Taiwan.

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Since when did you start arguing on the basis of evolution? Define 'natural'.
Definition of 'natural way of life' will differ from person to person but for this subject I would say living in ways what elements in nature supports the best. For example, living clean and hygienically is living natural way of life. However, it is a complex subject can be argued in many ways. Imo, best is to let the time determine to which type societies/communities nature favors.
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Default Re: Scans see 'gay brain differences' - 06-27-2008

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I thought the homosexual act was prohibited, not the state of being homosexual itself.
Homosexuality prohibited by religion!.. other acts of sexual deviation pederast(y) the same homosexual act with an underage consenting or nonconsenting boy is prohibited by state law solely on age!


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As for it's classification, are we to accept medical progress only so long as the Islamic world agrees with the outcome?
unlike most fields of medicine psychiatry relies a great deal on the theoretical.. something as esoteric as human behavior can't be subject to probing medical exams, as far as I am concerned it is of the same variety as the rest of the sexually deviant acts that didn't make it to normalcy and I am not alone on this speaking simply purely from a medical stand point!


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State law and morality should probably be two separate things, each person's morality is subjective and individual.
That is the way it is, isn't it? indeed morality has become subjective, and debauchery is regnant!


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On the issue of homosexuals gyrating in front of three year olds, perhaps the parents should take responsibility for where their children are and what they're doing.
It isn't the responsibility of society to accommodate a deviant few, rather vice versa, at least that is how it is last I checked in a democratic state? 'majority rules'


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If it's genuinely lewd behaviour in public, most countries have laws against that.

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I was just in tribecca (manhattan) when a gay couple groped each other in public one of them exposing the other in a sort of elated triumph, and they got away with it.. a cop can't be in every corner to enforce the law, but little children and adults who shouldn't see or don't approve of this sort of obscene behavior are more often the subject to it, then they need or want to be!
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Default Re: Scans see 'gay brain differences' - 06-27-2008

Azy, do u honestly think that 12 percent of Saudi Arabia is gay and hiding it? I just went there this month and I dont see 12 percent of Makkah and Madinah being gay
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Default Re: Scans see 'gay brain differences' - 06-27-2008

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Interesting you use the USA as an example since they are the most religious of the Western nations and should by your reasoning have the lowest rates of homosexuality.
He is comparing to KSA, not western nation. Another thing, conservatives are in office, but there is significant liberal population in cities and states in US. Whole US is not a good representative of religious values.
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Default Re: Scans see 'gay brain differences' - 06-29-2008

Should have locked this when I sniffed 'off topic' a while a back. Oh well. Better late than never.
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