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Default Re: New Bacteria Strain Is Striking Gay Men - 07-24-2008

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Wow. Arrogant much? No need for such an exaggerated response! Don't take it up with me, take it up with the stats if you have a problem with it.
Transmission in Australia continues to occur primarily through sexual contact between men. Around 61% of people newly diagnosed with HIV infection in the period 2002-2006 were men with a history of homosexual contact; 19% were probably exposed through heterosexual contact; 6% were injecting drug users; and a further 7% were men with a history of both injecting drug use and homosexual contact. In 7% of cases the route of HIV transmission was categorised as other or undetermined.
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The proportion of cases in women is low (3%) and 93% of cases are in homosexual/bisexual men, figures which have remained virtually unchanged over the past four years. Only 1.2% of cases has occurred among heterosexual intravenous drug users (IVDU). Of 3839 HIV antibody-positive diagnoses, 82% are in homosexual/bisexual men, 4.7% are heterosexual IVDU and 2.7% reported heterosexual contact as the only risk category. CONCLUSION: The AIDS epidemic was first recognised in Australia in homosexual/bisexual men at about the same time as in the US and Europe. However, it has remained largely confined to this group, in contrast to most other developed countries.
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Default Re: New Bacteria Strain Is Striking Gay Men - 07-24-2008

yep as my bros said . god said its haram for reason... but ppl wish not to listen. very sad. may allah help us all ameen
   
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Default Re: New Bacteria Strain Is Striking Gay Men - 07-24-2008

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Islam has stated sodomy is haram
Science has shown sodomy is harmful

If only humans would take heed of these signs.
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Default Re: New Bacteria Strain Is Striking Gay Men - 07-25-2008

Why did Allah create some humans with homosexual desires if it is harmful to the individual's health and sinful? Is it meant to be a test?
   
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Default Re: New Bacteria Strain Is Striking Gay Men - 07-25-2008

Assuming that a person is created with homosexual tendencies, and that homosexuality is not a choice, then yes, it is a test. Just like any disease - mental or physical - is a test for a person.
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Default Re: New Bacteria Strain Is Striking Gay Men - 07-25-2008

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Why did Allah create some humans with homosexual desires if it is harmful to the individual's health and sinful? Is it meant to be a test?
Yes, as a test. People are given all sorts of things as a test, homosexuality is one. People get diseases, blindness and so much as a test too - you may argue that to be blind isn't sinful, no, but it is a test to see if their imaan is affected by it. Also, other traits could be given as a test, such as bad temper/angriness etc.
   
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Default Re: New Bacteria Strain Is Striking Gay Men - 07-25-2008

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story of prophet luth:

We also sent Luth: He said to his people: "Do ye commit lewdness such as no people creation ever committed before you? For ye practise your lusts on men in preference to women:" ye are indeed a people transgressing beyond bounds". And his people gave no answer but this: they said,"Drive them out of your city: these are indeed men who want to be clean and pure! But we saved him and his family, except his wife, she was of those who lagged behind.And we rained down on them a shower of brimstone: then see what was the end of those who indulged in sin and crime!( Surah Al-A'raf 80-84)...

Allah is angry but he patience who doing homosex and lesbian!


We did indeed offer the Trust to the heavens and the earth an the mountains.But they refused to undertake it,being afraid thereof:but man undertook it; he was indeed unjust and foolish. (With the result) that
God has to punish the hypocrites, men and women,and the unbelievers, men and women: For God is Oft-forgiving, Most merciful....!


The sinfulness of Sodom

When the two angels came to Sodom that evening,Lot(Luth) was sitting at the city gate,as soon as he saw them, he got up and went to meet them,he bowed down before them and said"sir, i am here to serve you. please come to my house. you can wash your feet and stay the night. in the morning you can get up early and go on your way. But they answered,No we will spend the night here in the city square. He kept on urging them, and finally they went to his house. Lot ordered his servants to bake some bread and prepare a fine meal for the guests.when it was ready,they ate it. Before the guests went to bed, the men of sodom surrounded the house. All the men of the city,both young and old. They called out to Lot and asked, Where are the men who came to stay with you tonight? Bring them out to us" The men of sodom wanted to have sex with them. Lot went outside and closed the door behind him. He said to them, "Friends, I beg you, dont do such a wicked thing!
Look,i have two daughters who are still virgins.Let me bring them out to you, you can do whatever you want with them.But dont do anything to these men.They are the guest of my house,i must protect them.But they said,"Get out of our way you foreigner!who are you to tell us what to do? Out of our way , or we will treat you worse than them.They pushed the Lot back and moved up to break down the door. But the two men inside reached out, put Lot back into house,then they struck all the men outside with blindness so they couldn't find the door.(Genesis 19:1-11)


Lot leaves Sodom

The two men said to Lot, "If you have anyone else here-sons,daughters,son-in-law,or any relatives.Get them out of here,because we are going to destroy this place.The Lord has heard the terrible accusations against these people and has sent us to destroy Sodom.Then Lot went to the men that his daughter going to marry and said: hurry up and get out of here,The Lord is going to destroy this place.But they thought he was joking.At dawn the angels tried to make Lot hurry"Quick" they said Take your wife and daughters and get out, so that you will not lose your lives when the city is destroyed.Lot hesitated.The Lord,however,his wife and daughters by the hand and led them out of the city. The one of the angels said" Run for your lives"!Dont look back and dont stop in the valley.Run up to the hills, so that you wont be killed. But Lot answered" No, dont makes us do that,sir. You have done me a great favour and saved my life. But the hill so far away, The disaster will overtake me and i will die before i get there. Do you see that little town? it is near enough. let me get over there,you can see it is just a small place and i will be safe. He said,i agree.i wont destroyed that town, Hurry! Run! I can't do anything until you get there.Because Lot called it small,the town was name Zoar. (Genesis 19:12-22)

The destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah

The sun was rising when Lot reached Zoar. Suddenly the Lord rained burning sulphur. Along with all the people there and anything that grew on the land.But Lot wife look back and was turned into a pillar of salt. Early the next morning Abraham hurried to the place where he had stood in presence of the Lord.He looked down at Sodom and Gomorrah and the whole valley and saw smoke rising from the land, like smoke from a huge furnace.But when God destroyed the cities of the valley where Lot was living,he kept Abraham in mind and allowed Lot to escape to safety.(genesis 19-23-27)


the moral: Dont play with fire, so fear of the lord....the only God ,The one God..how God destroyed the people of Luth A.S. and the city of Sodom.

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My point being is that AIDS is not a "gay" disease. Straight people are just as much at risk. The virus is indeed more active within the gay community, but as a virus it does not discriminate. I see AIDS as a reason all people should be more mindful of the dangers involved with casual or anonymous sex with anyone.
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Default Re: New Bacteria Strain Is Striking Gay Men - 07-25-2008

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Why did Allah create some humans with homosexual desires if it is harmful to the individual's health and sinful? Is it meant to be a test?


If I was born with a higher tendency to be angry or lose my temper, it only means that it is my duty to resist it more.

If I am born with a LARGE libido ( sex drive), my job is to resist it until marriage.

If you have a tendency towards ANIMALS or SIBLINGS, it is only a test for you ( you can't be born with this really but none the less it is also a tendency) to GET OVER IT.

So please no 1st grade statements like this. It is a test. What? You don't understand why Allah chose to give THEM that test? It doesnt MATTER if YOU don't understand. It is there. Their duty is to conquer it.

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If I was born with a higher tendency to be angry or lose my temper, it only means that it is my duty to resist it more.

If I am born with a LARGE libido ( sex drive), my job is to resist it until marriage.

If you have a tendency towards ANIMALS or SIBLINGS, it is only a test for you ( you can't be born with this really but none the less it is also a tendency) to GET OVER IT.

So please no 1st grade statements like this. It is a test. What? You don't understand why Allah chose to give THEM that test? It doesnt MATTER if YOU don't understand. It is there. Their duty is to conquer it.
I can understand why Allah would choose to give humans such a test.
   
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Anyone Who committed Adultery will have AiDs...CauSe God have give punishment!
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My point being is that AIDS is not a "gay" disease. Straight people are just as much at risk. The virus is indeed more active within the gay community, but as a virus it does not discriminate. I see AIDS as a reason all people should be more mindful of the dangers involved with casual or anonymous sex with anyone.
It would seem gay people indulge in "casual or anonymous sex" less often than the rest, or at least are less careful protecting themselves. I wonder whether the reason for this is biological, as in gays have a greater libido by default, or psychological / sociological, or both.
   
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Anyone Who committed Adultery will have AiDs...CauSe God have give punishment!
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Anyone Who committed Adultery will have AiDs...
Not really. AIDS doesn't discriminate who it infects. Besides, if an adulterous man contracts the virus from someone else, and passes it on to his faithful wife, would that be a punishment to the wife?

We shouldn't be so quick to judge, especially considering the virus can be contracted through blood transfusions.
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Anyone Who committed Adultery will have AiDs...CauSe God have give punishment!
Committing adultery doesn't always result in AIDs and many children are born with HIV of no fault of their own.

As a Muslim you are a sort of representative for your religion and when you say such things it makes Islam appear foolish to some non-Muslims who don't know much about the religion so you should try and be a bit careful.
   
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