I'm sorry, what I meant is what is the current stage of your medical education, are you a doctor yet or are you doing specialties. The terminology is entirely different here than it is in the US, I'm not sure how to phrase my question.

I am at the residency stage.. what they call in England 'registrars'? at least that is what I have heard they are called..

peace

I didn't vote because I think it depend on the situation, if its a normal treatment, but if it was doing operations then that's different story. Sometimes it can put their lives or the others' lives in danger like this scenario:

A friend of mine was a trainee doctor in the emergency unit at hospital. Her brother had an accident and she recognized him when they brought him. She didn't tell her trainer that the injured one was her brother because she was so worried about him. So she entered the operations room and at the moment the doctor cut her brother leg to insert the metal she fainted and fell down. The doctor scolded her because she broke the law of entering the operation room in such situation.
The girl is very brave with other people and did many operation but it wasn't the case with her brother.

I think its dangerous to let someone unstable emotionally at that moment to do an operation for a relative because s/he will be very scared and worried to do any mistake let alone being worried about that relative.

you can't be emotionally un-invested least of which when it is a family member at stake..

that being said, I have and have seen many faint in the OR, believe it or not it isn't always because of the patient.. When I fainted it was just because of poor aeration.. and I am glad I fainted backwards .. and I am glad the surgeon wasn't an ass, I am so grateful it wasn't this guy goldberg whom everyone was positively horrified of or I'd never have heard the end of it..

^ Is it emotionally okay for someone to see his parent's heart opened? or see him/her covered with blood and close to death?? *I feel faint just thinking about it*

of course not, but doctors usually work in a field so only the area needed is exposed..

like this:



so you don't really see who it is, all your concern is following the procedure and not losing the life, which is more or less the job of the anesthesiologist...

in england my law.. a doctor can not treat him or her family member or close frinds.. coz like if there is any family or friends fight.. the doctor can poison them and stuff/.. well sumink like that.lol

No and that's why a family member can't be your GP here in the U.K.

Originally Posted by Gossamer skye

of course not, but doctors usually work in a field so only the area needed is exposed..

like this:

http://www.egyorth.org/images/22.jpg

so you don't really see who it is, all your concern is following the procedure and not losing the life, which is more or less the job of the anesthesiologist...

What if the cover accidentally show the face? how the surgeon will be?
Many scary things can happen in that room.

nvm, all of what I can is may Allah help them!

Originally Posted by Danah

What if the cover accidentally show the face? how the surgeon will be?
Many scary things can happen in that room.

nvm, all of what I can is may Allah help them!

it doesn't unless you are working on the face.. usually that is the area designated to the anesthesiologist.. also if anything happens in the 'sterile field' folks will have your behind.. there is a protocol for scrubbing and handling instruments and working in the field it is very rigid .. plus the pts has a zillion tube in and out of them and their eyes closed shut with tape (again unless it is eye surgery!)..

The analogy of doctors treating themselves with lawyers fighting their own cases or architects making their own houses is not accurate. Why? Because one's disease can have influence on one's mental capacity and judgment and rationality, no matter how minute, and this in turn can affect the outcomes of self-treatment. This sort of thing does not happen when a lawyer fights his own case or when an architect builds his own house because the things which they are fighting or working for have no effect on their ability, emotions, rationality and capacity in a way that would put their life at jeopardy.

I do not think doctors can or should treat themselves unless its something relatively minute such as a pimple or acne.

It is part of the hippocratic oath and good practice that a doctor should not treat him self or family members.

This is to prevent

• bias
• confusion
• mistakes or errors due to emotional judgement
• emotional involvement that may cloud decisions
• Crime

There is however no rule that excludes doctors from giving advice and making recommendations to family members or from using their knowledge to engage in treatment of an illness, disorder or medical matter they have personally.

Sometimes being known to a doctor is good as they have a good grasp of your medical history and your family medical history.

It is good patrctice for members of a family to select or elect a family doctor and this eases and improves their treatment and ok the doc may grow old and die but mostly the business or practice does not and here a new doc may take over who is maybe son or daughter of the old one or employee but they still have access to the right information about you medically.

The UK however fails on that score or should I say the UK, they seem to have a difficulty in distinguishiing between Hadija, Halima, Hazim, Hafiz, Harina all born to Mr Usman on different dates of different years in the month of March. What then shall we do about that huh...

The sister above has pretty much said all that can be said. Allah knows best.

I am a resident too, and treat myself all the time...I have a Really hard time trusting other doctors for my condition. Having access to do lab tests etc easily, really helps, lol.

I've started to realise how easily we as doctors, miss to see how bothersome a symptom is for a patient, unless and until we suffer from it ourselves. So yeah, the best person who knows what's going on inside the body is the patient himself/herself.

On a different note GSkye, sorry to hear about your colleagues. Doctors do have a higher rate of suicide compared to other professionals, as some studies have shown(residents:even higher!)...a bothersome fact

Originally Posted by Iris

I am a resident too, and treat myself all the time...I have a Really hard time trusting other doctors for my condition. Having access to do lab tests etc easily, really helps, lol.

I've started to realise how easily we as doctors, miss to see how bothersome a symptom is for a patient, unless and until we suffer from it ourselves. So yeah, the best person who knows what's going on inside the body is the patient himself/herself.

On a different note GSkye, sorry to hear about your colleagues. Doctors do have a higher rate of suicide compared to other professionals, as some studies have shown(residents:even higher!)...a bothersome fact

Push comes to shove you know your body better especially if you're studied in the field. I disagree with a couple of my current doctor's findings and when I discussed it with my mentor (a pathologist) he agreed that she is probably not on top of her game... but at least she didn't charge me for the cardio workup which I think putting up with her rude front desk lady the entire visit should have been free ..

In spite of my visit I am back to self-treating and I think the regimen I put myself on is working insha'Allah.. we'll wait and see..

May Allah guide you and grant you great knowledge during your residency training..
ameen