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Default Re: Wut do u feel when ur dead? - 04-27-2008

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Uh uh...Wrong section buddy,

Imagine you wake up in your grave, I mean Most Muslims get burried immediately after they have been pronounced dead, you people think NDE 's are true?

Argh! Creepy.
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Uh uh...Wrong section buddy,

Imagine you wake up in your grave, I mean Most Muslims get burried immediately after they have been pronounced dead, you people think NDE 's are true?

Argh! Creepy.
NDE's are the equivalent of being centrifuged at a very high speed.. dizzy with fluid drained from the head.. When that happens people hallucinate, see white lights, tunnels, have delusions that seem very real to them, ask the most brilliant neurosurgeon and they will tell you we know very little about how the brain works.. you can't in fact 'remedy' most of the disasters that occur in the brain, be it 'locked in syndrome' or syringomyelia or Wallenberg's Syndrome etc etc.. that is why they call most of these conditions 'syndrome'... People tend to be arrogant and never want to admit that they simply don't know (that isn't the case for most scientests, at least the ones I have come across) only lay folks who have a 'New scientest' subscription.. heck they have already figured out how we all evolved from monkeys, but they can't find a cure for the common cold.. be that as it may

I know people in general want a sliver of a chance to know what happens after death.. but finding out always comes with a very high price.. one must remain silent

People get one chance at life.. no one gets to take a peak at the exam before they've gone through it.. no one gets good results unless they've earned it.. No one gets to protest the questions are unfair, you must reason through it..
there are no short cuts, as far as I know, not in every day living and not when it comes to the life to come.. We must resign ourselves to the second verse of suret Al Baqara.. that is what it means to be a believer..

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Default Re: Wut do u feel when ur dead? - 04-27-2008

Im not talkin bout the PUNISHMENT in the grave. i kno u gotta feel that no matter wut. but im talkin bout like say someone got shot ina head and dies and falls ina biiig deeep well and hits his head on the well and gets severely injured...did he feel al that even when the bullet has killed him first?

And jazakallah khair for ur answers

wow 3 pages??? lol

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Default Re: Wut do u feel when ur dead? - 04-27-2008

In a nutshell the answer is Nope. he's dead and so cant feel the pain.

Heh...3 pages to get to that!
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Default Re: Wut do u feel when ur dead? - 04-27-2008

^ yehh...its wen im not online to explain it better lol


anyway
thanks for the answers then
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i should google it next time...
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I just created a thread "The First Night In The Grave" so waiting for mod to approve it inshallalh...
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Default Re: Wut do u feel when ur dead? - 04-27-2008

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Ok this topic has been confusing me.
You know how they say that when you're dead you can feel, hear, and see (if your eyes are open) everything? The only thing you can't do is talk and move and all.
So does this mean if you get shot on your head and heart and all and die you will keep feeling the pain the whole time???
Or when you get blown up you can feel the pain the whole time??
What about those people who take out all the organs after someone dies??? so the person feels all that??
Can you really feel it?
I kno you wouldnt kno coz u would have to be dead but like hadiths or anything?

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Salam sis,

I think I heard in a hadith once [or was it in a Scholarly explanation?] that when a person dies and if someone physically assaults the dead body [like kicks it, etc] then the deceased feels the same as it would have done when it was alive.

Some say that organ donation will not be allowed based on this view...

Here is a relevant excerpt from http://***********/aqida/cape_town_*...ykh_faiik.htm:

Do Not Harm Those in the Grave

In another Sahih Hadith narrated by Ibn Hanbal, Hakim and Tabarani, Nabi Muhammad (s) saw a person sitting on a qabr and told him: "Do not harm the person in the qabr and he will not harm you."(la tu'zi sahib al-Qabri wala yu'zeek).

The `Ulama of Hadith explained that this shows that the dead are affected by what people do at their Qubur. This Hadith also shows that the dead feel what happens on the top of their graves. Otherwise, why not sit on a Qabr, if the dead does not feel anything?

Therefore one should not harm or destroy Qubur. On the other hand showing respect at a qabr and conveying your love to the inhabitant will also be felt by him and result in like action being returned to you That is why Muslims show outward respect to the Graves of those who they are ordered by Allah (swt) to love, i.e. The Prophets and The Saliheen (saints of Allah).

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Salam sis,

I think I heard in a hadith once [or was it in a Scholarly explanation?] that when a person dies and if someone physically assaults the dead body [like kicks it, etc] then the deceased feels the same as it would have done when it was alive.

Some say that organ donation will not be allowed based on this view...

Here is a relevant excerpt from http://***********/aqida/cape_town_*...ykh_faiik.htm:

Do Not Harm Those in the Grave

In another Sahih Hadith narrated by Ibn Hanbal, Hakim and Tabarani, Nabi Muhammad (s) saw a person sitting on a qabr and told him: "Do not harm the person in the qabr and he will not harm you."(la tu'zi sahib al-Qabri wala yu'zeek).

The `Ulama of Hadith explained that this shows that the dead are affected by what people do at their Qubur. This Hadith also shows that the dead feel what happens on the top of their graves. Otherwise, why not sit on a Qabr, if the dead does not feel anything?

Therefore one should not harm or destroy Qubur. On the other hand showing respect at a qabr and conveying your love to the inhabitant will also be felt by him and result in like action being returned to you That is why Muslims show outward respect to the Graves of those who they are ordered by Allah (swt) to love, i.e. The Prophets and The Saliheen (saints of Allah).

Hope that helps

Salaam
Why are all website links turning censored?????sorry it didnt work (the link)

Wooow
Jazakallah khair for your response!

Omg this is like so messed up then
So all the people in india or whatever that people burn actually feel the fire???*shivers*
And those people that get there organs taken out carelessly are feeling that?
and all the terrorists (NOT MUSLIMS!) feel the bomb when it breaks there bodies in pieces???
woow.
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p.s. i hope non of us die ina paainful way lika bullet ina head or non muslims blowin us up! (@ war)
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Default Re: Wut do u feel when ur dead? - 04-27-2008

sowwy, link not working; you can google the words: 'Complete refutation of Shaykh Faaik' and the site [by the same name] should come up,

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Why are all website links turning censored?????sorry it didnt work (the link)

Wooow
Jazakallah khair for your response!

Your wellcome sis

Omg this is like so messed up then
So all the people in india or whatever that people burn actually feel the fire???*shivers*
And those people that get there organs taken out carelessly are feeling that?
and all the terrorists (NOT MUSLIMS!) feel the bomb when it breaks there bodies in pieces???
woow.
Jazakallah khair brother
WaSalaam


p.s. i hope non of us die ina paainful way lika bullet ina head or non muslims blowin us up! (@ war)
Dying in a painfull way is not so bad for Muslims actually, because the more the pain, the more sins the Muslim gets forgiven?

It is said that the reason why a Muslim that dies by burning in fire, drowning or having a house fall on him, becomes a shaheed [martyr] is because the pain he feels gets all his sins forgiven.

There is a hadith that says that a Muslim gets some of his sins forgiven even if he suffers a pin prick [or something like that].

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Default Re: Wut do u feel when ur dead? - 04-27-2008

When hell was created, it certainly was designed to put the fear of God into people.
I am so thankful I dont live my life worrying about it.
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sowwy, link not working; you can google the words: 'Complete refutation of Shaykh Faaik' and the site [by the same name] should come up,

Salaam
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Dying in a painfull way is not so bad for Muslims actually, because the more the pain, the more sins the Muslim gets forgiven?

It is said that the reason why a Muslim that dies by burning in fire, drowning or having a house fall on him, becomes a shaheed [martyr] is because the pain he feels gets all his sins forgiven.

There is a hadith that says that a Muslim gets some of his sins forgiven even if he suffers a pin prick [or something like that].

We should be ready to patiently bear it though
again jazaakallah khair brother thats so useful! and better to know!

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When hell was created, it certainly was designed to put the fear of God into people.
I am so thankful I dont live my life worrying about it.

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When hell was created, it certainly was designed to put the fear of God into people.
I am so thankful I dont live my life worrying about it.
Heaven was created as a reward for those who follow God's commandments and obey their Creator.

Hell was created as a punishment for delinquent and disobedient servants of the Creator.

It's just like any system in the world only at a more grand and divine level, crime and punishment vs reward and success
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Default Re: Wut do u feel when ur dead? - 04-27-2008

Maybe Brs. Qatada can find the old post with these questions replied to by bro. Ansar?...

I don't think any of us are scholars on the subject...
I posed this exact same Q to him.. and he had written quite an extensive piece on the matter..

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Default Re: Wut do u feel when ur dead? - 04-27-2008

Life in the Grave:

http://www.islamicboard.com/hereafte...ght-grave.html (The First Night In The Grave)
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