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But what if some women don't want to share their husband
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I dont understand why will women have to stay indoors in jannah?

Isnt Jannah a place where all inhabitants cant commit sin so why do the women need to be 'guarded' and why do we have to stay inside???

Does it mean we won't be able to meet our family members from this life??
Does it mean we won't see our children?
Estaghfirullah but this is the one area as a revert i still really struggle with and i have to be honest i dont like the description because it doesnt seem fair.

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Default Re: What will women get in Paradise? - 09-05-2007

This is an awesome thread and I really enjoyed reading every post. I am not sure but isn't it another reason for men having Hur Al-Ain for men to encourage to do good in this life. A sort of encouragement of an excellent reward.
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WOahhhhhhhhh hold it sister! Who said we will have to stay inside?!?!

All the desires n everything will be removd from our heart! n we can meet the prophets and martyrs n caliphs!!
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I dont understand why will women have to stay indoors in jannah?

Isnt Jannah a place where all inhabitants cant commit sin so why do the women need to be 'guarded' and why do we have to stay inside???

Does it mean we won't be able to meet our family members from this life??
Does it mean we won't see our children?
Estaghfirullah but this is the one area as a revert i still really struggle with and i have to be honest i dont like the description because it doesnt seem fair.

Estaghfirullah it really upsets me.
Read the first post in this thread. It will help you understand. Don't worry if excepted to paradise, inshaAllah you will. You will be in state of Peace and happiness FOREVER. You can do what you like, visit who you want, and enjoy yourself. InshaAllah.

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In more than one Qur’anic verse, Allah Most High, calls upon His servants to do their utmost in order to be favored with Paradise. For example, He says, (And vie one with another for forgiveness from your Lord, and for a Paradise as wide as are the heavens and the earth, prepared for those who ward off (evil). ) (Al `Imran 3: 133)

As regards your question, we’d like to inform you that in Paradise believing men and women will be showered with blessings; there is no room for discrimination based on sex in Paradise. The life of women in Jannah will be as pleasant and happy as the life of men. Allah is not partial to any sex. He created both of them and He will take care of both of them according to their needs and desires. Let us all work to achieve the Jannah and then,in sha’ Allah, we will find there what will satisfy all of us fully.
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All the desires n everything will be removd from our heart! n we can meet the prophets and martyrs n caliphs!!
I dont think so...

Qatada posted this on the other thread 'description of hoor al iyn' and in it it also says that much of this refers to women as 'hoor' is often taken to mean all females.


6 – Allaah describes them as refraining from looking at anyone except their husbands (interpretation of the meaning):

“Wherein both will be Qaasiraat‑ut‑Tarf [chaste females (wives) restraining their glances, desiring none except their husbands]”

[al-Rahmaan 55:56]

“Hoor (beautiful, fair females) guarded in pavilions”

[al-Rahmaan 55:72]


Ibn al-Qayyim said:

Allaah describes them as being “guarded in pavilions”, i.e., they are prevented from making a display of themselves before anyone except their husbands. They are guarded for their husbands and they do not go out of their houses, and they restrain themselves for them and do not desire anyone else. And Allaah describes them as “Qaasiraat‑ut‑Tarf [chaste females (wives) restraining their glances”. This description is more complete than the first, for one of them restrains her gaze and focuses her love upon her husband, she is content with him and does not look beyond him at anyone else.
   
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yeh but i swear in another thread sum1 posted wiv reference 2 quran n hadith that we can see the prophets and sahabis n martyrs n talk 2 them...
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^ of course you can Alhamdulillah may Allah grant us all their company, Ameen
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I dont think so...

Qatada posted this on the other thread 'description of hoor al iyn' and in it it also says that much of this refers to women as 'hoor' is often taken to mean all females.


6 – Allaah describes them as refraining from looking at anyone except their husbands (interpretation of the meaning):

“Wherein both will be Qaasiraat‑ut‑Tarf [chaste females (wives) restraining their glances, desiring none except their husbands]”

[al-Rahmaan 55:56]

“Hoor (beautiful, fair females) guarded in pavilions”

[al-Rahmaan 55:72]


Ibn al-Qayyim said:

Allaah describes them as being “guarded in pavilions”, i.e., they are prevented from making a display of themselves before anyone except their husbands. They are guarded for their husbands and they do not go out of their houses, and they restrain themselves for them and do not desire anyone else. And Allaah describes them as “Qaasiraat‑ut‑Tarf [chaste females (wives) restraining their glances”. This description is more complete than the first, for one of them restrains her gaze and focuses her love upon her husband, she is content with him and does not look beyond him at anyone else.
I believe the women of humanity will not be among the ranks or category of Al-Hoor al Heins... since these heavenly figures did not went through the test of human life... with prayers, fasting, ablution, charity and so on... Women will have a rank equal to Men... in a manner very unique and special for them... their ranks will provide peace, happiness and contentment that they would not be longing for anything less than that.

Believeing women will be staying in mansions in paradise... gold, silk and perl adornements overflow their surroundings. While men will have Al-hurs al hein as their adornments.

It is not appropriate for a woman to have 72 men to be her adornments... since... if a woman belongs to 1 husband... she is a pure believing woman... an epitome of faithfullness and fidelity and purity. But if a woman is owned or surrounded by many men... what would that make her? Allah, created all things, beings, seen or unseen with their unique and special attributes.... if we go against the original intent or design of their nature... then we are committing a deviation. This is the reason why Homosexuality and Lesbianism is the works of Shaytan... because the devil only wants man to deviate against his true nature. And the knowledge that Shaytan provides to the beliving women or men is to question, complain, rebel and cry this is unfair to Allah. And Allah knows best... the best for your true nature.


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I dont understand why will women have to stay indoors in jannah?

Isnt Jannah a place where all inhabitants cant commit sin so why do the women need to be 'guarded' and why do we have to stay inside???

That was the view of Ibn ul Qayyim sister, and other scholars state otherwise alhamdulillah:

This does not mean that they will never go out of their realms, rather they will have everything they desire of that which Allaah has prepared for the people of Paradise. And the same is said concerning the believing women of Paradise.


Shaykh ‘Abd al-Rahmaan al-Sa’di (may Allaah have mercy on him) said:

“Houris (beautiful, fair females) restrained in pavilions” [al-Rahmaan 55:72] means: kept in tents of pearl, always ready for their husbands. That does not mean that they do not go out in the gardens of Paradise, as the daughters of kings and others like them, such as girls kept in seclusion and those who are very shy usually do.

Tafseer al-Sa’di (p. 831).


In Paradise, there will be no evil looks or sickness of the heart such that a woman will be required to cover her face, and it is not the place for striving or commands or prohibitions, as ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: “Today is for striving with no reckoning and tomorrow is for reckoning with no striving.” Narrated by al-Bayhaqi in Shu’ab al-Eemaan (10614); narrated by al-Bukhaari in a mu’allaq report in Baab al-Aml wa Tooliha, in Kitaab al-Riqaaq.

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http://www.islamicboard.com/miscella...greet-him.html (Will the women in Paradise cover their faces? Will they see the Prophet & greet him?)

http://www.islamicboard.com/miscella...-paradise.html (Will the Muslim see whoever he wants of the women of Paradise?)
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And those who believe and whose offspring follow them in Faith, to them shall We join their offspring, and We shall not decrease the reward of their deeds in anything. Every person is a pledge for that which he has earned.

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Estaghfirullah it really upsets me.

May Allah increase you and us all in faith, and make us of those who He rewards with an endless reward in paradise. Remember that in paradise, the soul will have all that it desires.
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Thank you Qatada
BarakaAllahu fik and may Allah subhana wa ta'ala grant you a peaceful Ramadan full of khair , iman and baraka

This put my mind a bit at rest...

Sometimes the posts without full explanation bring me back to the days when i felt islam was a man-oriented religion.

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I still can’t contemplate why a women has to share her husband with 70 other women
   
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“A man will go to one hundred virgins in one day – i.e., in Paradise.”

what does it mean by the above hadeeth, does it mean he will have 1 hundred wifes each day and another 1 hunderd wifes the next day.
   
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“A man will go to one hundred virgins in one day – i.e., in Paradise.”

what does it mean by the above hadeeth, does it mean he will have 1 hundred wifes each day and another 1 hunderd wifes the next day.
Assalamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullah

Allahu A'lam, it could mean that he will see all 100 of his wives in one day, subhanAllaah the barakah in the time of jannah will be different, subhanAllaah time itself will be different, I WANT JANNAH!
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