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north_malaysian · **Re: suicide -** 10-08-2007

Well.. the Japanese students are well known to commit suicide if they dont have straight A's in the exam.

I think the community should change their attitude too... especially among Eastern Asians... because our lives not only depends on our exam results..

NoName55 · 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by syilla

commit suicide is the same as the death's day.

The way they died...is just ways / reasons.

source

so, according to this formula, a murderer should never be punished because he did not cut short some one's life?

No compensation/blood money should be paid to the victim's family since they were meant to loose the breadwinner that day anyway?

no one should look out for traffic on crossing roads since if they are meant to die that's it.
no one should oppose or try to stop any invading armies lest the interfere with pre-destiny?

STOP GOOGLING!!

syilla · 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by NoName55

o tso, according to this formula, a muderer should never be punished because he did not cut short some one's life?

No compensation/blood money should be paid to the victim's family since they were meant to loose the breadwinner that day any way?

no one should look out for traffic on crossing roads since if the are meant to die thats it.
no one should oppse or try to stop any invading armies lest the intfere with pre-destiny?

STOP GOOGLING!!

what formula?

i never realised that there is a formula

I think you confused between taqdeer and punishment on people who killed...or am i wrong?

so sorry to say i'll not stop googling why should i?

NoName55 · 04:15 AM

nevermind, forget I said anything, I should not be getting involved, my fault, apologies for butting in, happy googling!

NoName55 · 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by syilla

what formula?

i never realised that there is a formula

I think you confused between taqdeer and punishment on people who killed...or am i wrong?

so sorry to say i'll not stop googling why should i?

on second thoughts (ignore my post #34 above

Can you find me the reason from Googling and/or Internet fatwa shops for the following:

Quote:

Originally Posted by JihadunNafs

None of you should long for death, for if he is a good man he may increase his good deeds (by living to full term until the appointed time) and if he is an evildoer, he may stop the evil deeds and repent (because (s)he has more time than if (s)he topped him/herself) (Bukhaari)

May Allah help and guide us all. Ameen

muthenna · **Re: suicide -** 10-10-2007

Matter and energy, time and space are all created and cotrolled by Allah, so there is no chance of doing anything without Allah knowing or determined to be; whoever believes has won whoever disbeliefs has failed, there is no escape from the one who has created everything

NoName55 · **Re: suicide -** 10-10-2007

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Originally Posted by muthenna

Matter and energy, time and space are all created and cotrolled by Allah, so there is no chance of doing anything without Allah knowing or determined to be; whoever believes has won whoever disbeliefs has failed, there is no escape from the one who has created everything

if that was explaination for http://www.islamicboard.com/840493-post35.html (suicide) then I aint impressed as it is not fitting

IbnAbdulHakim · **Re: suicide -** 10-10-2007

^ *takes out adhab stick*

lol no im kidding

NoName55 is making a good point (Unless i misunderstood the point), stop googling, sheikh google isnt always reliable! maybe a decent reference but NOT good for all ur fatwa needs !!

tarek29 · **Re: suicide -** 10-10-2007

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Originally Posted by bewildred

Please help me with the following : If Allah (sws) has written everyone's death's day.... How come people commit suicide????

S.

Allah (swt) created us to be free to chose, and this doesnt contradict that HE knows all our life that is written before we even exsist!

http://www.islaam.com/Article.aspx?id=54

Peace

H@fiz Aziz · **Re: suicide -** 12-24-2007

well its pretty simple if a muslim commits sucide they will go to hell forever.

umar113 · **Re: suicide -** 01-02-2008

all i know is this, if a person commits suicide, he will continue doing it forever AND when everyone if waiting in line to get their record of good and bad deeds, they will do the same thing over and over, even after they get their record.

Allah has the authority over our bodies, to give life and take away life, it is NOT our choice, our choice is, whether to follow Allah and His prophets or to go astray.

truemuslim · **Re: suicide -** 01-02-2008

yes ^^^..so the written day is already known...by allah ONLY... he knows how we will die, when, everything, but it doesnt mean we can go ahead and kill ourself in a haram way...

seattlemuslimah · **Re: suicide -** 01-03-2008

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Originally Posted by Shorty x

salaamz.....

hope someone can help me

In my home town over the summer, a couple of young muslim lads had committed suicide, both are not connected, but similar age, 24-25,
it is a sin to commit suicide, so why do it?
it hit us pretty hard as we knew both boys who passed away

i was wondering, what happens to them, in the hereafter, do they get same treatment as everyone else?

w'salaams
shorty
xx

This is very horrible to hear.

Yes Suicide is very large sin. and Well if you remember in Quran probably the one you have that is translated arabic to english you will notice that like page 63-64 possibly if you and i have the same quran which ill get the author and stuff for you... it tells you what happens to people when they do things in their lives. Liars will have their faces ripped off. Adultors will be put into a clay oven to burn, eaters of usury will swim up current while someone on the edge throws rocks in his throat. so you see. some people lose their iman and lost the taqwah and this is what happens.

I hope this helps good luck

Masalama

ikaj · **Re: suicide -** 01-03-2008

We have free will and Allah already knows what we will choose in this life. He already knows who we will choose to marry, which sins we will choose to commit, which good deeds we will choose to do, how we will die etc. So if He already knows exactly what we will choose then why not skip all this time on earth and put those of us that He knows will choose good things in heaven and punish those He knows will choose evil things directly into hell.

Sometimes that crosses my mind but then I just remind myself that it may not make sense right now, perhaps Allah has not given us the ability to understand such things as yet, but Allah knows why and perhaps one day Allah will let us understand why things are the way they are...

LUVAR · **Re: suicide -** 02-04-2008

Dont people who kill themselves consider what happens after am dead?

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north_malaysian LI Oldskool Status: Offline Posts: 6,206 Reputation: 9378 Rep Power: 32 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Penang Island, Malaysia Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: suicide - 10-08-2007 Well.. the Japanese students are well known to commit suicide if they dont have straight A's in the exam. I think the community should change their attitude too... especially among Eastern Asians... because our lives not only depends on our exam results.. __________________ ONLY ALLAH CAN SAVE MALAYSIA!

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NoName55 extremophobe_2 Status: Offline Posts: 2,701 Reputation: 13870 Rep Power: 29 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Leeds Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: suicide - 10-08-2007 nevermind, forget I said anything, I should not be getting involved, my fault, apologies for butting in, happy googling! __________________ Whoever is not convinced by the evidence of Qur’aan will not be convinced by anything.. ShareIslam and "Do not debate with people of innovated beliefs" Marriage? "Make the marriage well-known and announce it." Last edited by NoName55; 10-08-2007 at 04:15 AM.

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muthenna Member Status: Offline Posts: 56 Reputation: 63 Rep Power: 10 Join Date: Dec 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: suicide - 10-10-2007 Matter and energy, time and space are all created and cotrolled by Allah, so there is no chance of doing anything without Allah knowing or determined to be; whoever believes has won whoever disbeliefs has failed, there is no escape from the one who has created everything

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IbnAbdulHakim iM HackeD!-!-!-! Status: Offline Posts: 14,142 Reputation: 41046 Rep Power: 80 Join Date: Feb 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: suicide - 10-10-2007 ^ takes out adhab stick lol no im kidding NoName55 is making a good point (Unless i misunderstood the point), stop googling, sheikh google isnt always reliable! maybe a decent reference but NOT good for all ur fatwa needs !! __________________ iDawah.com Bringing Dawah back..to the future! Shaqiq bin `Abdullah reported: The Companions of the Messenger of Allah (PBUH) did not consider the abandonment of any action as disbelief except neglecting Salat. [At-Tirmidhi]

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H@fiz Aziz Abdul Aziz/Aalim... Status: Offline Posts: 288 Reputation: 552 Rep Power: 11 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: ALLAHS EARTH Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: suicide - 12-24-2007 well its pretty simple if a muslim commits sucide they will go to hell forever. __________________ Kalimah Taiyyab Declaration of Faith Laa ilaaha illa-llahoo Muhammadur-Rasool-ullah "There Is no diety except Allaah. Muhammad (sallallaahu alayhi wasallam) is the Messenger of Allaah."

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umar113 Member Status: Offline Posts: 53 Reputation: 148 Rep Power: 4 Join Date: Dec 2007 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: suicide - 01-02-2008 all i know is this, if a person commits suicide, he will continue doing it forever AND when everyone if waiting in line to get their record of good and bad deeds, they will do the same thing over and over, even after they get their record. Allah has the authority over our bodies, to give life and take away life, it is NOT our choice, our choice is, whether to follow Allah and His prophets or to go astray.

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truemuslim Account Disabled Status: Offline Posts: 3,384 Reputation: 9767 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Somewhere in the U.S.A...but as if u wud care...pshhh Way of Life: Muslim	Re: suicide - 01-02-2008 yes ^^^..so the written day is already known...by allah ONLY... he knows how we will die, when, everything, but it doesnt mean we can go ahead and kill ourself in a haram way...

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ikaj Limited Member Status: Offline Posts: 48 Reputation: 112 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Dec 2007 Way of Life: Muslim	Re: suicide - 01-03-2008 We have free will and Allah already knows what we will choose in this life. He already knows who we will choose to marry, which sins we will choose to commit, which good deeds we will choose to do, how we will die etc. So if He already knows exactly what we will choose then why not skip all this time on earth and put those of us that He knows will choose good things in heaven and punish those He knows will choose evil things directly into hell. Sometimes that crosses my mind but then I just remind myself that it may not make sense right now, perhaps Allah has not given us the ability to understand such things as yet, but Allah knows why and perhaps one day Allah will let us understand why things are the way they are...

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LUVAR Member Status: Offline Posts: 91 Reputation: 91 Rep Power: 14 Join Date: May 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: suicide - 02-04-2008 Dont people who kill themselves consider what happens after am dead?