If Pakistan is attacked by NATO, it is my intention Insha Allah, to travel myself to Pakistan and to stand by my Muslim brothers and sisters in their moment of greatest danger.
Oh brother i can't watch the whole video ...however i would recommend you to email sheikh and verify it, thats the best thing to do otherwise no use discussing it.
Also it would be helpful if you can point out in the lecture as to where he says that because my brother it is actually you who raised the point that Sheikh does not believe in punishment for stoning for married couples.
However, i would like to bring to your attention from his book "Jerusalem in the Quran" where he does mention that Prophet Muhammad (saw) enforced this punishment and he never raised any objections to it...
"When the Prophet (‘alaihi al-Salaam) arrived in Madina he did a number of things that should easily have convinced the Jews and their Rabbis that he was indeed a true Prophet of Allah, and that he was the Prophet on whom they were in wait : -
Finally something else occurred which should have sealed the matter once and for all. The Jews brought before the Prophet (‘alaihi al-Salaam) two people who had committed zina (sexual intercourse between two people who are not married to each other). They sought to test him by asking him what should be done to the two people. He asked them what punishment did they enforce. They replied to the effect that they made the faces black and then beat such people publicly. He then asked whether this was the punishment that they found in their Book.
He asked them to bring their Book and to read from it (since he, himself, could neither read nor write). As they read from the Torah their Rabbi, Abdullah bin Salaam, who had become a Muslim, stood beside the Prophet (‘alaihi al-Salaam). When the reader came to the verse on rajm (stoning to death) in the Torah he put his finger over the verse to hide it. Abdullah bin Salaam ordered him to stop reading and to raise his finger. He then had to read the verse of rajm that prescribed this punishment for zina. The recitation of this verse caused considerable embarrassment to the Jews. They had been exposed as a people who had betrayed their own sacred law and were trying to conceal that betrayal. The Prophet (‘alaihi al-Salaam) then ordered that
the two people be stoned to death thus enforcing the Jewish law that the Jews themselves were not enforcing. This should have been sufficient to absolutely convince the Jews that he was, indeed, a true Prophet."
(Jerusalem in the Quran, Chapter 7 'Turn from Jerusalem to Makkah')
.... please refer to his book you can get it from his website and you can read it and check it for yourself. Nowhere does he object.
just to give you heads up i am also watching the you tube video link you posted and if i do come across his denial of stoning for married couples then inshA'Allah i will post it here and let others know this as well.
I have been watchings his lectures and reading his books since 2007 and never have i come across anything like what we're discussing about him.
Asalaam O Alaikum...
The Sheikh follows Quran and Sunnah and thats it. I would suggest reading his books to find out his beliefs if you want to be sure.
He is Ahle Sunnah Wa Al Jamah. But if you would ask me Barelwi or Deobandi or Salafi ? Then i would say he just simply follows Quran and Sunnah, or in his own words in one of his lectures "Quran and Universally accepted Sunnah" i.e. Authentic Hadith and Sunnah.
I recommend you to watch it so that it may clear your doubts about the Sheikh.
Hope that helps. Salaam.
My post on sunniforum.com on Feb 24, 2011
Re: Prediction of Revolution 2011 by Sheikh Imran Hosein revealed in 2003
Originally Posted by Ansari
If he said this, then this is kufr. It is agreed upon and a fundamental of belief that stoning is a punishment prescribed in Islam. Anyone who denies that, is a kaafir. See Ikfar al-Mulhidin by Allama Anwar Shah Kashmiri.
Can you bring the exact quote from the video?
I had replied last night, but it seems that it was blocked due to links in the post.
I am sorry that I can't provide the exact quote as I gave the DVD to a more learned brother for him to evaluate. In the DVD he clearly and emphatically said the punishment was the same and it disagreed with my understanding.
However, I had sent this message to another brother for his perspective: "I watched the DVD Jerusalem in the Quran and at 1:11:47 I was surprised that Imran Hosein said that the punishment of 100 lashes in Surah 24:2 applies to both adultery (married) and to fornication (unmarried). He said that Prophet Muhammad (sal alahu alayhi wa salam) did not differentiate between the 2 illegal relations.
I did a hadith search and Bukhari 82.106 references the stoning of a man who had confessed to adultery in which the man was asked if he was married. This implied to me that the punishment was different between fornication and adultery. Also Bukhari 78.629 an adulteress was stoned but the laborer who had relations with her was only lashed implying that he was unmarried.
Is the first instance a deviant ruling? The reason I ask is that I am still trying to decide if I should accept what this person says or writes as being correct."
1. somebody telling future: a predictor of future events http://www.bing.com/Dictionary/searc...er&FORM=DTPDIA
a person who predicts the future by magical, intuitive, or more rational means http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/soothsayer
a person who professes to foretell events http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/soothsayer
Prediction of Revolution 2011 = professing to foretell events in 2003 that later came true, but still predicting the future = soothsayer.
Well I asked cause its good to know what a certain speaker is upon. Salafiyyah is doing just that, following the Quran wa Sunnah.
But yes Id have to read up on his material etc..insha'Allaah.
Also, how can we make predictions, thought we arent supposed to do that..wallaahu Alam.
Last edited by Nσσя'υℓ Jαииαн; 12-31-2011 at 01:08 AM. Reason: Typo
I heard he is a sufi but Allah knows best.
i found something.......
http://www.imranhosein.org/faq/52-is...l-lineage.htmlAre you a sufi Shakh? Will you be my murshid? What is your spiritual lineage? PDF Print E-mail
Islam and Spirituality
Written by Imran N Hosein
My immediate spiritual and intellectual lineages do not follow the traditional Sufi silsila. Rather they are inseparably woven together and go back from Maulana Ansari to Dr Muhammad Iqbal to Maulana Jalaludin Rumi. Maulana Abdul Aleem Siddiqui was the spiritual mentor of my teacher - but he has not played any significant direct role in my intellectual or spiritual life. I am, of course, poorer because of this.
Imran N Hosein.
wa 'alaikum assalaam,
'The test of the pudding is in the eating' - is an expression that accurately sums up the subject of Sufism. It is remarkable that none of the Sufi orders, to the best of my knowledge, have been able to recognize paper currencies to be a hoax, bogus, fraudulent and Haram. The pursuit of Islamic spirituality does not require joining a Sufi order. Such a thing might assist but is not a requirement for the pursuit of Islamic spirituality.
I am not a Sufi Shaikh. I am not a Murshid in a Sufi Order. I no longer belong to any Sufi Order. My association with Sufism does not entail any belief or any religious practice that is not firmly founded on the Qur'an and Sunnah.
We are all shepherds, and we will all be questioned about our sheep. In this sense I am a shepherd.
Last edited by Cabdullahi; 12-30-2011 at 11:58 PM.
still supporting it. He sounds confused if u ask me lol. Is he or is he not? His comments give mixed signals.
I won't bother listening to him.
Ok w/e it's your choice. We won't force you down your throat to listen to Sheikh Imran Hosein, it's either you believe or not.still supporting it. He sounds confused if u ask me lol. Is he or is he not? His comments give mixed signals.
I won't bother listening to him.
Last edited by Samiun; 12-31-2011 at 02:36 AM.
Whats with the attitude in people today? Ridiculous.
Please can we speak without arguing.
This Cheikh really troubled me.
What kind of nonsense is this
Last edited by Vision; 12-31-2011 at 08:25 AM.
I have a friend who thinks the day of judgement will come in his grand kids lives, this is just what he thinks from the way things are atm, but he knows no one knows the hour except for Allah etc and he could be wrong. I don't see what is wrong with this unless you know of something where it says we can't say what we think is going to happen in the future or tomorrow. We shouldn't think about what's going to happen in the future etc
Last edited by Salahudeen; 12-31-2011 at 08:20 AM.
I have saw one video where he said that he isn't soufi.
and an other video where he said that Dajjal will come, probably, in our kids lives.
He said exactly : young pupils will see him, probably (perhaps).