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for what he has been through. are you seriously telling me that he hasnt had injustice done to him?

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for what he has been through. are you seriously telling me that he hasnt had injustice done to him?
I do not know if he has had injustice done to him or not as he has not been put in trial yet - he could be if he stopped fighting extradition. What I do know is that if he is guilty he should be in jail. And in the process of sending him to the US I do not see that any special injustice has been done to him in the circumstances.
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I do not know if he has had injustice done to him or not as he has not been put in trial yet - he could be if he stopped fighting extradition. What I do know is that if he is guilty he should be in jail. And in the process of sending him to the US I do not see that any special injustice has been done to him in the circumstances.
salaam,

sorry for the late reply...

okay that fact that he had many injuries sustained during the time the police had "fairly" arrested him shows what kinds of injustice had been done! this was even done in front of his wife! can you even imagine the humility and pain this brother felt??

http://www.freebabarahmad.com/

as a muslimah i am obviously going to feel anger towards this situation. the same anger and sorrow that i will feel for any other person that has had all that done to them

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okay that fact that he had many injuries sustained during the time the police had "fairly" arrested him shows what kinds of injustice had been done! this was even done in front of his wife! can you even imagine the humility and pain this brother felt??
Well I do not feel that my manhood is quite as threatened by being roughly up by police in front of my wife, but yes I can imagine it. That is not the point. Mr Ahmad was, as far as the police were concerned, a terrorist suspect. How else do you arrest potential suicide bombers?

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Why as a Muslima? I try to balance my distaste for what has been done with support for what they are trying to prevent. Do you feel nothing for the victims of 7-7? Don't you think, in the circumstances, the police were justified in trying to arrest Mr Ahmad as quickly as possible and before he had a chance to do anything had he been so inclined to do it?
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a potential sucide bomber? oh yeh just like the poor brazilian, who was a potential suicide bomber?

the government is just digging itself into a deeper whole by all these new laws and legislatiosn, thers gona come a ime, when the genrerla public is gona say enough is enough, adn regardless of colour, religion, creed, they are all gona get up and stand up for what tey belive is a form of opression in 21st century
   
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Well I do not feel that my manhood is quite as threatened by being roughly up by police in front of my wife, but yes I can imagine it. That is not the point. Mr Ahmad was, as far as the police were concerned, a terrorist suspect. How else do you arrest potential suicide bombers?
i have a low opinion of what some policemen/women say. after so many lies i dont see how they can be trusted, but khalas they are only following what orders have been prescribed for them."potential suicide bomber?" what just like the brazillian dude that they mercilessly shot down!! astaghfirullah is this what the world has come to? what has come of the quote "innocent until proven guilty"....or even atleast get some
evidence for brother Babar, not just detain him without a grain of proof. :rant:

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Why as a Muslima? I try to balance my distaste for what has been done with support for what they are trying to prevent. Do you feel nothing for the victims of 7-7? Don't you think, in the circumstances, the police were justified in trying to arrest Mr Ahmad as quickly as possible and before he had a chance to do anything had he been so inclined to do it?
unlike some i am able to see the outcome of deaths...and as you should know suicide bombers arent allowed in Islam and neither are those that kill innocent people. rules of combats have been laid out....

so of course i feel for those who died...whether it be in the 7/7 attacks or Iraq where they are still suffering.

and do you honestly think that a single man can take on a group of policemen?? i dont see that possible especially when it was a surprise arrest. i dont see that as being justified....

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a potential sucide bomber? oh yeh just like the poor brazilian, who was a potential suicide bomber?
That is another way to arrest a potential suicide bomber. After all you cannot simply let him blow himself up with six police officers sitting on him. A pity they did not get the right person, but if he had been a suicide bomber on his way to the Underground, what else should the police have done?

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I agree the government is wasting time. Britain has laws on the books for these crimes - they just don't have the courage to use them. But I think if the bombings continue, the public will say enough is enough but that anger will not be aimed at the government.
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You can ignore him if you want sister, because he always wants pointless arguments for no apparent reason.


Our beloved Prophet Muhammad (sal Allaahu alayhi waSalam) said: “I guarantee a house in the outskirts of Paradise to the one who forsakes argument even when he is in the right.” (Reported by Abu Dawood, 5/150; Saheeh al-Jaami’, 1464).



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Why did this babarahmed get jailed? and who is he
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lol jazakAllah bro Fi_Sabillilah....im done anyways

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