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    Default Ruling on backbiting about non-Muslims


    Ruling on backbiting about non-Muslims



    Question:

    Please inform us if the gheebah (backbiting) is the same for non-believers as it is for Muslims.




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    Praise be to Allaah.



    Firstly, it is not a Muslim characteristic to speak rudely. The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The Muslim does not slander, curse, speak obscenely or speak rudely.” (Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, who said, this is a ghareeb hasan hadeeth; it was classed as saheeh by al-Albaani). Whoever does a thing a lot, it will become his habit, so the Muslim should keep away from all the ways that lead to evil, whether minor or major. Whoever drives his sheep near the enclosure of the king is bound to cross the line.



    Secondly, if your question is referring to backbiting about a kaafir by mentioning his physical defects, such as his having a long nose or a big mouth, etc., then do not do this, because this is making fun of the creation of Allaah. If it means talking about his bad characteristics which he flaunts openly, such as zina and immorality, or drinking alcohol, and warning against him, there is nothing wrong with that. There follow some of the comments of the scholars on this topic:



    Zakariya al-Ansaari said: “Backbiting about a kaafir is haraam if he is a dhimmi [a non-Muslim living under Islamic rule], because that puts them off from accepting the jizyah and it is going against the treaty of dhimmah (agreement between non-Muslim subjects and the Islamic state) and the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). ‘Whoever makes a snide comment to a dhimmi has earned Hell.’ (Narrated by Ibn Hibbaan in his Saheeh). It is permissible (to backbite about a kaafir) if he is a harbi (one who is at war with the Muslims), because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) used to command Hassaan to lampoon the mushrikeen.”

    (Asna al-Mutaalib ma’a Haashiyatihi, vol. 3, p. 116)




    Ahmad ibn Hajar al-Haythami said in al-Zawaajir ‘an Iqtiraaf al-Kabaa’ir (vol. 2, p. 27):


    “Al-Ghazaali was asked about backbiting about a kaafir. He said: with regard to a Muslim, it is forbidden for three reasons: causing offence; criticizing the creation of Allaah, for Allaah is the Creator of the deeds of His slaves; and wasting time in something that is of no benefit. The first is haraam, the second is makrooh, and the third is not the best thing that one can do.



    With regard to the dhimmi, he is like the Muslim as far as not harming him is concerned, because the Lawgiver protects his honour, blood and property. It was said in al-Khaadim, the first view is correct. Ibn Hibbaan narrated in his Saheeh that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said, ‘Whoever makes a snide comment to a Jew or a Christian deserves Hell.’ The meaning of making a snide comment is to make someone hear something that will cause offence to him. There is no stronger evidence than this, i.e., it is haraam.



    Al-Ghazaali said: with regard to the harbi, the former is not haraam, and the second and third are makrooh. With regard to one who commits bid’ah (innovation), if he is becomes a kaafir thereby, then he is like a harbi, otherwise he is like a Muslim, but speaking of him with regard to his bid’ah is not makrooh. Ibn al-Mundhir said, concerning the words of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), “It is your mentioning about your brother that which he dislikes,” – this indicates that in the case of one who is not your brother, such as a Jew or a Christian or a follower of any other religion, or one whose bid’ah has put him beyond the pale of Islam, there is no backbiting in his case.”




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    there are cases where back biting is allowed i think...i think i've read that somewhere...is it ...i dont know...actually i have no idea...





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    Default Re: Ruling on backbiting about non-Muslims


    AsalamuAlaykum,

    jazakhala for that,

    backbiting allowed :S

    never heard of that one though, heard lieing was allowed in some cases!



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    From there it says that it's still not allowed to backbite a muslim, or some non muslim [a dhimmi] who pays the jizyah (the tax to live under the islamic state.)


    But the one's who are at war with the muslims - it may be allowed to backbite them.

    " It is permissible (to backbite about a kaafir) if he is a harbi (one who is at war with the Muslims)"




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    is that the only time...and no other times that you can back bite





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    So wait, Hassan used to make fun of the mushriks that the prophet peace be upon him was at war with? Was it when he was a little kid?


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    Allaahu a'lam, i don't know sorry.







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    Man, Musta Been Nice Being So Close To The Prophet Peace Be Upon Him


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    Assalaamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatulaah

    Barakallahu feek Br FI. I was in much need of that.

    Wasalaamu Alaikum Wa Rahmatulaah

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    Default Re: Ruling on backbiting about non-Muslims


    In the hadith about backbite it says would you like to eat the flesh of your brother? This implies for it to your brother which means muslim so you wouldn't be eating the flesh of a kafir as his not muslim thereby not your brother. This is the ruling useed by some ulama to show it is not haram to backbite a kafir. Although it is better not to as what benefit is there/

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