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Default Wanna Learn Dutch????? - 06-22-2008

Yep Finnaly A thread Abouuuuut THE DUTCH LANGUAGE
By me And Bro RaOner (Plus if someone speaks dutch)

READ CAREFULLY FOR MORE QUESTIONS ASK ME OR BROTHER RaOnar!!


Oke We Begin with the BASIC NUMMBERS( lol The easiest one )

1. ONE we say EEN now say it... EEN
2. Two is TWEE .....TWEE its nott like english when you say the two like too
but in dutch you have to say T..W..EE (You know what I mean ...Maybe not)
3. This one is easy Three you say drie its almost the same
4. Four is Vier
5. Five is Vijf
6. Six is Zes
7. Seven is zeven but you say like Zeeven
8. eight is Acht
9. nine is negen also say it like neegen
10. ten is tien

Its realy easy its a look alike:


cijfers, getallen

0-9 are called 'cijfers', 84, 56, 189 and so on are called 'getallen'.

cardinal numerals
0 = nul ---- .10 = tien
1 = een ---- .11 = elf
2 = twee ---- .12 = twaalf
3 = drie ---- .13 = dertien
4 = vier ---- .14 = veertien
5 = vijf ---- .15 = vijftien
6 = zes ---- .16 = zestien
7 = zeven ---- .17 = zeventien
8 = acht ---- .18 = achttien
9 = negen ---- .19 = negentien
       
20 = twintig ---- .80 = tachtig
30 = dertig ---- .90 = negentig
40 = veertig ---- .100 = honderd
50 = vijftig ---- .1,000 = duizend
60 = zestig ---- .1000.000 = miljoen
70 = zeventig ---- .1000.000.000 = miljard
       

21 = eenentwintig --- . 31 = eenendertig
22 = tweeëntwintig --- . 32 = tweeëndertig
23 = drieëntwintig --- . 33 = drieëndertig
24 = vierentwintig --- . 34 = vierendertig

Note:
1. After 'twee' and 'drie', the 'e' in 'en' turns into "ë", see 22, 23.

2. reading: 155, honderd vijfenvijftig
289 tweehonderd negenentachtig
1155 duizend honderd vijfenvijftig
1.074.320 een miljoen vierenzeventigduizend driehonderd twintig

3. In Engish uses 'and' between the numerals, but in dutch nothing.

4. the numerals in Engish is '1,145.05', but in Dutch it is writen
'1.145,05'.
A temperature '15.7 degree' is read as 'vijftien komma zeven graden'.



That was The Numbers , maybe it comes handy somewhere Its realy realy easy Almost the same like english

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..and i thought learning the names of the muscles of the leg was hard enough..:|

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The plural of nouns

 
Plural nouns: He sells apples and pears.
Rules:
1. Most nouns take -en in the plural.
 
Singular _________________ Plural
  1. de aap - the monkey / - de apen - the monkeys
  2. de boom - the tree / - de bomen - the trees
  3. de muur - the wall / - de muren - the walls
  4. de duif - the dove,pigeon /- de duiven /- the doves. pigeons
  5. de golf - the wave /- de golven - the waves
  6. de muis - the mouse / - de muizen - the mice
  7. de gans - the goose / - de ganzen - the geese
  8. het huis - the house / - de huizen - the houses
  9. het wiel - the wheel /- de wielen - the wheels
 
Note: a: That when a neuter (het word) is changed into plural, the
definite article is de, e.g. het huis--de huizen, het wiel--de
wielen.
b: That the word ends with s or f, changed into z or v. e.g
de duif--de duiven / de gans--de ganzen
but: de bus→de bussen / de les→de lessen
de tas→de tassen / het bos→de bossen
c: Spelling rules: de aap→de apen / de boom→de bomen


2. Nouns ending in unstressed -el, -em, -en, -er, adding 's'.


de tafel→de tafels, /de bezem→de bezems, /de deken→de deken,
/de moeder→de moeders

Note: nouns ending in stressed -el, -en, -er, adding 'en'.
het wiel→de wielen / de schoen→de shoenen
/ het dier→de dieren

3. Foreign nouns ending with -a, -i, -o, -u, adding 's.


de firma→de firma's / de taxi→de taxi's / de auto→de auto's
/het menu→de menu's

4. All diminutives with the ending -(t)je, adding 's'.


het katje→de katjes / het schoentje→de schoentjes

5. Irregularity

het blad→de bladeren / het ei→de eieren het kalf→de kalveren
het kind→de kinderen / het lam→de lammeren

de dag→de dagen / de weg→de wegen / het bad→de baden
het dak→de daken / het gat→de gaten / het glas→de galzen
het pad→de paden / het slot→de sloten

de zoon→de zoons / de broer→de broers / de oom→de ooms
/de secretaresse→de secretaresses

de stad→de steden het schip→de shepen
1 conducteur - 2 conducteurs
1 chauffeur - 2 chauffeurs

but: 1 directeur - 2 directeuren
ruimte: ruimten/ruimtes
methode: methoden/methodes
periode: perioden/periodes
ziekte: ziekten/ziektes

Nouns have two genders in Dutch, common gender and neuter:
Common gender: de stad - the city,town
de inwoner - the inhabitant
Neuter genger: het land - the country
het kind - the child







The articles



De, het, een


Definite article: The woman has a daughter.
Indefinite article: The woman has a daughter.

In English, definite article is 'the', indefinite article is 'a' and 'an', in Dutch definite article is 'de' and 'het', before common gender nouns (see grammar-nouns) use 'de', before neuter gender nouns use 'het'. But it is difficult for you to know which word is common gender and which word is neuter gender, so when you remember a new noun word, you always need remember whether it is 'de' or 'het'. But there are three rule can help you a bit:

1. Before diminuitive words , (that is to say, a word ends with (e)(t)je, for example het meisje), always use 'het';
2. A noun related to a person, 99% use 'de'; but het meisje, het kind.
3. Before plural words , use 'de'.

Before all words, the indefinite article is 'aan', it is pronounce but never written 'n. But this word also means 'one', in which case it is normally written 'één', and pronounced the way it is spelt.

Common gender
een vrouw / a woman ; een stad / a city

Neuter gender
een land / a country ; een kind / a child




You Understand Or Not Just IF you wanna know Somethin About a dutch word or sentence or something JUST ASK!!!!


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..and i thought learning the names of the muscles of the leg was hard enough..:|

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Is this hard???? LOL My Pleasure
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Pronunciation
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The consonants are:

* B as in "bad" /Bath/ (B at end of words sounds like "P")
* D as in "dom" /Doll/ (D at end of words sounds like "T")
* F as in "fijn" /Fix/ and "laf" /lauGH/
* G as in "god" (sounds somewhat like the "ch" in /loCH ness/, very throaty,
and "dag"
* G as in "garage" /SHow/ only used in words originating from the French.
* H as in "help" /Help/
* J as in "jas" /Yes/ (not like J in /Jet/, that's more a DJ sound)
* J as in "journaal" /CHopin/
* K as in "kat" /Cat/ and "ik" /liCK/
* L as in "los" /Lot/ and "tol" /toLL/
* M as in "mijn" /Mine/ and "dom' /suM/
* N as in "niet" /Not/ and "tin" /tiN/
* P as in "pas" /Pen/ and "sop" /cuP/
* Q as in "quiz" /Quiz/
* R as in "rot" /Run/ and "kar" /faR/ (don't roll it)
* S as in "sop" /Sob/ and "los" /boSS/
* T as in "tin" /Tin/ and "rot" /weT/
* V the same as "F", "V" can't be at the end of a word or syllable.
* W as in "wat" /Where/ and "ruw" /hoW/
* X as in "sex" /seX/
* Z as in "zak" /Zoo/ and "quiz" /quiZ/

The vowels differ more from the English, and they are so many ways to pronounce them!!
Pffff. To make it more difficult is that the sound of a vowel depends (just like in English) on the surrounding consonants and other vowels. Two or three adjacent vowels can also form diphthongs, i.e. they makes one sound together.





The vowels are:

* A as in "kat", sounds something like /cUt/
* E as in "ben" /zEn/
* E as in "gokken", this is another sound for the single E, it sound like the mute "e" in English, like in {givEn}, it is used mostly when the syllable with the "e" doesn't have the emphasis
* I as in "ik" /dIck/
* O as in "dom" /sOld/
* U as in "put" (sounds a bit like /wOrd} or {bIrd}, say the "i" sound and round your lips to a small circle)
* IJ as in "hij", sounds not entirely not like /whY/




The diphthongs are:

* AA as in "daar" (a bit like /jA/ or /fAther/, but not really)
* AAI as in "saai", a bit like the "ij" sound, only longer
* AU as in "rauw" (same sound as OU)
* CH as in "lach" (same sound as "G")
* CH as in "douchen" /SHow/ (pronounced like "sj"), from the French, always pronounced like this before the "OU" difhthong
* EAU as in "bureau" /gO/ (pronounced like an "oo"), it's a French word, in previous spelling also written with "o" instead of "eau"
* EE as in " reet" /rAte/, sounds different before an "R", more like a long "i", like as in "meer" /gEAr/
* EI as in "zeik" /dIke/, sounds like the "ij"
* EEU as in "eeuw", almost like the long "ee" sound. It's always followed by a "w"
* EU as in "neus" (a sound not known in English, just listen), sounds different before an "R", more like a long mute "E", like in "deur".
* IE as in "lief" /sEE/
* IEU as in "nieuw" a bit like /sEAl/, always before a 'w'
* NG as in "zingen" and "lang" /loNG/
* OE as in "boek" /lOOk/
* OEI as in "groeien" /OOJ/
* OI as in "hoi" /bOY/, not many words with this sounds though.
* OO as in "hoop" /hOpe/, sounds different before an "R", more like a long "o", like as in "door" /dOOr/
* OOI as in "mooi", a long OI
* OU as in "goud" /lOUd/
* OU as in "douchen" /lOOse/ (pronounced like an "oe"), from the French, always prononced like this before "CH", and in some other French words
* SCH as in "schip", the "s" followed by the "CH" sound, but when an "r" follows "sch", as in "schreeuwen".
At the end of a word its always preceded by a "i" and sounds like the "ies" sound, like in "logisch" (sometimes even written with "ies", like "logies", but only in 'rebelian', non-standard Dutch texts).
* SJ as in "sjaal" /SHow/
* TS as in "tsaar" /TSar/
* UI as in "huis" (a sound not present in English, a bit like saying the mute "e" followed by the "UU" sound, but very smooth)
* UU as in "muur" (a sound not present in English, sounds like the French 'lune', try to say the "ie" /sEE/ sound, and round your lips)


The short vowels "a", "e", "o" and "u" are pronounced as the long vowels "aa", "ee", "oo" rsp. "uu" when they are in a so-called 'open' syllable. An open syllable ends with a single consonant and is followed by another vowel.
So examples are: "tAken", "gEven", "Uren".
NOT open syllables are: "lAchen", "wErken", "hEbben", "hEb".
But the "e" is pronounced as a mute "e" when the emphasis (stress) is not on the syllable (more about this in another lesson).
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The "a", "o" and "u" are also pronounced long when the are at the end of a word (or used as a single letter, but then the word would consist of this single letter, and would therefore end with the letter, so what am I getting on about?), like in "ja", "zo" and "nu".

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Finally the letters of the alphabet as promounced:
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A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X IJ Y Z



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jij hebt zin, niemand is geinteresseerd in deze lelijke taal (of wel?)
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jij hebt zin, niemand is geinteresseerd in deze lelijke taal (of wel?)
tijd voor fajr insha Allah.

LOOOOOOOOOL opeens jij hier
Ik weet Maar Voor het geval dat ze zeggen dat ze geen nederlands kunnen
Kan ik tenminste Zegge leer maar Hier, Ookal begrijp ik er zelf niks van
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Spelling

Well, Dutch has all the usual letters of the alphabet, plus one.
That is: abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz and ˙ (ij)
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Yep, that new letter "˙" is very hard to enter on a normal QWERTY keyboard.
That's why we normally use "ij" (an "i" and an "j") in typed documents (in handwritten documents usually the "˙" is used).
So "ij" actually counts as one letter in Dutch (we even have it in Scrabble :-).
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Of course, we also have the i and j as separate letters, but I can't come up with a word in which j follows i and isn't used as an "ij". So whenever you see "ij" in a word it's the ˙.
For example: "hij" {he}, "IJsselmeer" (name of a lake).
The capital "ij" is written as "IJ"; so both letters are capitalized.
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The "y" is like in English, sometimes vowel, and sometimes a consonant.
It is only used in words derived from a foreign language, like Greek, e.g. "hypnose" {hypnosis} or "yoghurt" {yogurt}.
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As in most languages the first character of a sentence starts with a capital (well almost all of the time).
Also names of persons, geographical names start with a capital. Nouns don't normally start with a capital (it does so in the German language for instance).
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Sentences end with a "."
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The Dutch language has many diphthongs (two or more vowels forming one sound together). They are:
"aa", "aai", "au", "ee", "eeu", "ei", "eu", "ie", "ieu", "oe", "oei", "oi", "oo", "ooi", "ou", "ui", "uu"
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Dutch also has some sorta consonant diphthongs. They are:
"ch", "ng", "sch"
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Why have two things for the same sound? In the old times (before 1920) the "g" and the "ch" sounded different, this also is valid for other letters and diphthong, like "ij" and "ei" which have the same sound. We call "ij" 'long' and "ei" short.
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THATS Enough , EVEN I Dont Understand What It SAys in there Pff Just Using my own words from Now on just Ignore That Texts

A couple Of sentences:
I am Goin To Pray : Ik Ga Bidden
I Am Goin To The Mosque: Ik ga naar het Moskee
Its Fajr Time : Het Is Tijd(Teid) Voor Fajr
I am A Muslim : Ik ben Een Moslim
There is NO god But Allah: Er is geen God Dan Allah.
Muhammed Is His Messenger: Muhammed Is Zijn Boodschapper.
How are YOu doing : Hoe Gaat Het?
Good: Goed
And With You : En met jou?
Good Aswell: Ook Goed
I Am A Girl : Ik ben Een Meisje.
I Am A Boy: Ik ben Een Jongen.
Yes: JA
No: Nee
I am Hungry; Ik heb Honger
How Much is that Bread?: Hoe duur is die Brood?
I dont Understand At All : Ik begrijp het helemaal niet
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ik ben hier weg insha Allah.

LOOOOL Is echt lelijk he Bah bah Anyway Ik ben hier ook weg
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Default Re: Wanna Learn Dutch????? - 06-22-2008

Otherwise, no dutch for me. too much kgh's and ch's..
I like the country though.
   
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