Originally Posted by Grace Seeker

Well, there are two reasons that I thought that you could say "canim" between good friends.

1) My dictionary gives the definition for "can" = "soul", "life", etc., but not "lover" so that when you refer to a person as "canim" you would be saying that they are "my soul", "my life" and thus a very important person in one's life, but not necessarily one's lover, so not restricted to romantic relationships. This same dictionary give the definition of "can dostu" = "dear friend".

2) But the primary reason is that my Turkish-speaking daughter would refer to her family and best girlfriends as "canim", though she gave no hint that she was lesbian. Or are you suggesting that she was trying to tell me something? Maybe it is like so many things, girls are allowed by culture to be more expressive of their feelings than men are? I don't know, what do you think? I know I have some female friends that are like sisters to me that I am comfortable referencing as "canim", while I would not do so with even my very best male friends. (Oh, and btw, some on here have thought that I was a sister. I am not. I am a brother. That might make a difference how your read that last paragraph.)

yes, yes yes.. i have made a mistake a huge mistake. i am a man, a male, so i thougt differently. okey i should clear it:

For male person : if male person is older than the other person, older can say "canim", it does not matter if younger boy or girl is. i am a teacher and sometimes i say "canim" to my students. if i were a father, i could say "canim" my son or daughter , it does not matter what his/her age is.

For female person:Female person can say "canim" her girlfriend , so you are right. Also she can say "canim " her mother, her sister, her brother, her father and her boyfriend.

Did i explain clearly? "canim" has same meaning "my sweet."

So your daughter is normal, dont be afraid. .

just i only tried to make a joke , but now i have seen it is not a good joke. so i am sorry.

is turkish spoken anywhere but Turkey?

Originally Posted by mustklc

just i only tried to make a joke , but now i have seen it is not a good joke. so i am sorry.

Problemi yok.

Your joke was fine. I wasn't offended, and was also trying to interject humor when I asked if maybe my daughter was trying to tell me something -- that's why I put the smiley there.

So, we are good. And thank-you for your very thorough explanation.

Originally Posted by Ya Mustafa

is turkish spoken anywhere but Turkey?

salam aleykum brother,,

actually turkish is spoken in the whole middle asia after turkey,,(in kazakhistan,uzbekhistan,azerbaijan,kirghisisthan,t urkmanistan etc..) but we can not understand eachother so easily..the dialects are really different..

but we understand azeris totaly,and turkmans half,,but not kazhaks and kirghis...and they understand eachother completely....strange right

beside,,before mustafa kemal,we used to use persian alphabet,not arabic.be cause arabic doesnt has''ç''(ch)ü and p letters..

salam n dua'a..

Jazakallah Khair ^^^

There are a lot of people who speak Turkish (Turkey Turkish) in the world specially in europe. Over than 20 million Turkish people are living in countires in Europe . but they have many problems.Turkish people are not allowed to speak their own language (Turkish) and live their religion (islam). specially in greece there is a cruelty to Turkish people. sometimes greece people burn Turkish mosques and kill Turkish babys. This cruelty is showed only in our media and news. Europe's media hide this cruelty.

there is a saying in Turkish:

A dog does not bite another dog.

Başkasına fenalık eden kendine etmiş olur. (from wiki quote )

Benim adim Al-Zaara.
Istiyorum Türqe öğrenmek (?).

lol My parents speak Turkish and I spoke it when I was much younger, now it's all forgotten.
Insha'Allah, I will learn it again.

Originally Posted by Al-Zaara

Başkasına fenalık eden kendine etmiş olur. (from wiki quote )

Benim adim Al-Zaara.
Istiyorum Türqe öğrenmek (?).

lol My parents speak Turkish and I spoke it when I was much younger, now it's all forgotten.
Insha'Allah, I will learn it again.

a.salam sister,
inshaAllah you can learn it again,and if ur parents still speak turkish,it wouldnt be a problem i think...inshaAllah...

terve,,
mita kuulu??

sağlıcakla kalasın
wassalam

Hahaha, you made me laugh!!
First time someone spoke Finnish here!
You know Finnish?

Todella hyvin, kiitos. Entäs miten sulle kuulu?
(Very good, thank you. And how are you doing?)

Yes, I don't think learning Turkish is going to be so hard, as I do understand a lot of words, but not whole sentences just yet.

Teshekyr!

kiitos hyvin sister
i dont know finnish very well,actually i forgot it
i worked 2 years with finnish people and then began to learn it,but i gave it up,coz there are nt so many finnish people in the worldjust 5.5 millions,

inshaAllah you can learn turkish soon again
wassalam

Wow!!! Thanks for this thread...

I only know Merhaba, gule-gule and seni seviyorum...

Ben North Malezyaim... <---- is it right?
(I am North Malaysian)

Originally Posted by Al-Zaara

Başkasına fenalık eden kendine etmiş olur. (from wiki quote )

Benim adim Al-Zaara.
Istiyorum Türqe öğrenmek (?).

lol My parents speak Turkish and I spoke it when I was much younger, now it's all forgotten.
Insha'Allah, I will learn it again.

Al-Zaara, I am not correcting you, as much as seeing if I understand the following point of grammar. I probably know less than 100 words of Turkish, but I think that Al-Zaara's sentence needs to be placed in a different order:

Turkce ogrenmek istiyorum. = I am wanting to learn Turkish.
Am I correct?
(I am sorry, I don't have Turkish characters on this computer.)
The subject comes first and the verb last in the sentence. And in this sentence the subject "I" is implied in the verb "istiyorum" so it does not need to be stated.

With such a short quiz I am afraid I have either an A or an F, no middle ground for a B or a C.


Can someone translate this that she quoted?

Başkasına fenalık eden kendine etmiş olur.

We'll wait for the correction of my sentence. But I do think you're right, it sounds right in my ears.

Translation of that wiki quote I posted previously:

Literal translation: He who does evil to another, has done it to himself.

Originally Posted by north_malaysian

Wow!!! Thanks for this thread...

I only know Merhaba, gule-gule and seni seviyorum...

Ben North Malezyaim... <---- is it right?
(I am North Malaysian)

yes , you are right only "li" is missed . and "north "means "kuzey"

Ben Kuzey Malezyaliyim.

Malezya = Malaysian

Malezyali = a person who lived or born in Malaysian.

Malezyali - y - im = y is a special tag because two " i " can not be together in Turkish.

there are some letters can not be together:
a, e , i ,I, u , ü , o

when a tag starts with this letters and the word finishes with this letters, they joins with a special tag (in example: y).
y,s and n are special tags which joins words and tags.

Originally Posted by mustklc

yes , you are right only "li" is missed . and "north "means "kuzey"

Ben Kuzey Malezyaliyim.

Malezya = Malaysian

Malezyali = a person who lived or born in Malaysian.

Malezyali - y - im = y is a special tag because two " i " can not be together in Turkish.

there are some letters can not be together:
a, e , i ,I, u , ü , o

when a tag starts with this letters and the word finishes with this letters, they joins with a special tag (in example: y).
y,s and n are special tags which joins words and tags.

OK... Ben Kuzey Malezyaliyim


What's the meaning "Unuttun beni zalim"?