Originally Posted by north_malaysian

OK... Ben Kuzey Malezyaliyim


What's the meaning "Unuttun beni zalim"?

you can say only: "Kuzey Malezyaliyim" . "Ben" is not necessary.



there was a song "unuttun beni zalim".

it means, "cruel, you have forgetten me."

i think,"cruel " is darling of a man in this song. so this is a sadly song

zalim= cruel

unut= forget

unut - tu - n : a good example for the Turkish special tag sytems.

"tu" or "du" means past time, the time before today. past simple tense or present perfect tense

" n " : an action which is made by you, you made.

unuttun= you have forgetten.

what a nice language is Turkish! A sentence, which is three word in English, is only one word.

there is an online dictionary for turkish to english , english to turkish translations.

http://www.seslisozluk.com/

and you can listen pronunciation also.

good luck

Originally Posted by mustklc

there was a song "unuttun beni zalim".

Yes... sung by Muazzez Ersoy.... I do listen to Turkish music, but only limited songs from Muazzez Ersoy, Mustafa Sandal, Sibel Can... it's hard to get Turkish songs here in Malaysia...

Originally Posted by north_malaysian

Yes... sung by Muazzez Ersoy.... I do listen to Turkish music, but only limited songs from Muazzez Ersoy, Mustafa Sandal, Sibel Can... it's hard to get Turkish songs here in Malaysia...

belki biraz yardim: türkçe radyo istasyonlaru

Tessekur.... (is it right?)

Originally Posted by north_malaysian

Tessekur.... (is it right?)

Evet. teşekkür=thanks


And here is another: Same stations, different webpage to find them

My turkish isn't that good, so I would ask one of the real Turks on here to be sure, but I think you can do music downloads from this site. Maybe they would have some other recommendations. As you learn Turkish, you can go to www.mynet.com or www.superonline.com and track down almost anything Turkish.

Originally Posted by Grace Seeker

Evet. teşekkür=thanks


And here is another: Same stations, different webpage to find them

My turkish isn't that good, so I would ask one of the real Turks on here to be sure, but I think you can do music downloads from this site. Maybe they would have some other recommendations. As you learn Turkish, you can go to www.mynet.com or www.superonline.com and track down almost anything Turkish.

What is "Evet"?

How can you type those "U" with two dots, and "s" with a comma?

Originally Posted by north_malaysian

What is "Evet"?

How can you type those "U" with two dots, and "s" with a comma?

Evet = yes.

There are a couple of ways to get Turkish characters.
The best is to download the Turkish characters that are problaby already in your computer so that you can use them on your keyboard. If you use Microsoft Windows, it is built right into the program's software. Just go to your control panel and your help files will direct you through the process. You can also download Turkish characters off the net if you computer doesn't already have them.


But, the computer I'm actually on right now doesn't have them. And rather than reconfiguring the system I just go to the website listed above -- http://www.seslisozluk.com/ -- type in the word I want, and it then comes back and asks me if I really meant the same word but with Turkish characters and then I copy and paste.

There are also Turkish characters too. You'll notice that there is an i without a dot and an i with a dot. For instance, Istanbul when written in Turkish has a dot above even the capital i. And my daughter's name, Asli, is spelled without a dot on the i. The i without a dot sounds more like "uh".

Originally Posted by Grace Seeker

Evet = yes.

There are a couple of ways to get Turkish characters.
The best is to download the Turkish characters that are problaby already in your computer so that you can use them on your keyboard. If you use Microsoft Windows, it is built right into the program's software. Just go to your control panel and your help files will direct you through the process. You can also download Turkish characters off the net if you computer doesn't already have them.


But, the computer I'm actually on right now doesn't have them. And rather than reconfiguring the system I just go to the website listed above -- http://www.seslisozluk.com/ -- type in the word I want, and it then comes back and asks me if I really meant the same word but with Turkish characters and then I copy and paste.

There are also Turkish characters too. You'll notice that there is an i without a dot and an i with a dot. For instance, Istanbul when written in Turkish has a dot above even the capital i. And my daughter's name, Asli, is spelled without a dot on the i. The i without a dot sounds more like "uh".

I've bought Turkish dictionary, so I knew the pronounciation of those "I"s, also the "C"s and the "S"

Originally Posted by north_malaysian

I've bought Turkish dictionary, so I knew the pronounciation of those "I"s, also the "C"s and the "S"

More power to you if you can pronounce them right. I have no problem with most of the letters, but the undoted "ı" is a different story. Aslı lived with us for a year and she says that I never did quite pronounce her name right,




... but my wife did!

Originally Posted by Grace Seeker

More power to you if you can pronounce them right. I have no problem with most of the letters, but the undoted "ı" is a different story. Aslı lived with us for a year and she says that I never did quite pronounce her name right,




... but my wife did!

In Malay language, we used "E" for the "I"(without dot). So in Malay spelling it'll be "Asle"

Originally Posted by north_malaysian

In Malay language, we used "E" for the "I"(without dot). So in Malay spelling it'll be "Asle"

But then what do you do with the "e" in words like evet? And what about words that come as two different words depending on if you were spellig it with an "ı" or an "e"?

Originally Posted by Grace Seeker

But then what do you do with the "e" in words like evet? And what about words that come as two different words depending on if you were spellig it with an "ı" or an "e"?

that's a problem for non native Malay speakers as we used both as "E"...

For example, "kebenaran" ("truth"), in turkish the sound could be spelt as "kIbInaran"

or "membebel" ("babbling"), it would be like "mImbebel"

Ben çok şaşırtdim. Türkçe ögrenmek kâfi. Malayca dahi istemeyorum.

Originally Posted by Grace Seeker

Ben çok şaşırtdim. Türkçe ögrenmek kâfi. Malayca dahi istemeyorum.

what's dat?

Originally Posted by north_malaysian

what's dat?

"Ben çok şaşırtdim. Türkçe ögrenmek kâfi. Malayca dahi istemeyorum."

it means;
"I am really amazed. Learning Turkish is enough. I dont want to learn Malay language too. "

yes there are different characters like:
i without dot,
c , s with dot
u, o with two dots.

these are resembling some characters in german. for example:

c with dot: tsch in german. tschuss
s with dot: sch in german. (der?) schule
o with dot: oe .
u with dot: ue.

for turkish music downloading mp3 is not legal, but i understand you that you cant find original albums everywhere. so you can try a P2P software like "limewire".




i have found some funny emotions of turkish people. we generally use them . you can find this words at below:


>Before beginning something INSALLAH
>
>Just at beginning BISMILLAH
>
>When surprised ALLAH ALLAH
>
>When gave up EYVALLAH
>
>To go to the end YA ALLAH
>
>Promise VALLAH BILLAH
>
>Self confidence EVEL ALLAH
>
>Fully motivated ALIMALLAH
>
>Bored FESUPHANALLAH
>
>More bored HASBINALLAH
>
>Give up ILLALLAH
>
>Great inspiration and motivation ALLAH, ALLAH, ALLAH
>
>Succeeded MASALLAH
>
>At failure HAY ALLAH


i am working hard these days , so if i can not reply this topic, please dont be angry with me.