alhumdulilah brother, insha'allah I shall now try to check up everything before I pass on to a 3rd party, and I think that something among these lines is in the hadith? jazak'allah khair.

brotherubaid, there is a difference between the example you gave and the Dua mentioned by Nokiacrazi. That Dua is mentioned in a Hadith, while the example you gave may not be taken from any Hadith.
Allah says in a Hadith Qudsi, I am with the Dhann of my servant. If you have Husn Dhann with Allah and believe that Allah will protect you, He will surely protect you.
There is actually a lesson for us that Hadith. It teaches us how our Yaqeen should be on the sayings of Rasulullah Sallallahu 'Alaihi wa Sallam. Three people come to Abu Darda RadhiyAllahu 'Anhu after personally witnessing the fire and say that your house is burnt. But Abu Darda RadhiyAllahu 'Anhu had so firm yaqeen on the saying of Rasulullah Sallallahu 'Alaihi wa Sallam that he calmly replies them that it can't be true.
Just imagine, 3 witness on one side and Hadith on one side. Who do you believe? It's easy to say I believe in Hadith, but imagine the same with you, someone coming to you and saying your house is on fire. Even if we have slightest doubt on the saying of Rasulullah Sallallahu 'Alaihi wa Sallam, then our Iman is in danger.
A fourth person comes and says, O Abu Darda (RA), the fire reached very near to your house and then it died out. What made you say with firm belief that your house cannot be on fire? He then narrates the Dua saying he heard Rasulullah Sallallahu 'Alaihi wa Sallam say whoever recites it in the morning, nothing can harm him for the whole day.

This Hadith is mentioned in Zaadul Ma'ad fi Hadyi Khairil 'Ibad by Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim Rahimahullah. It can be read here in Arabic: http://sirah.al-islam.com/display.asp?f=zad2100.htm (This is a very authentic website run by Ministry of Islamic Affairs, Endowments, Da‘wah and Guidance of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.)

yes brother aabirul sabeel , barak Allah feek , i was talking in gereral , i wanted to point out the fact that just the result does not automaticaly mean that this thing is the remedy for this thing as i proved in my last post and the examples are plenty , so i wasnt even talking about this particular hadeeth, but rather trying to get a point across that just coz something gives u a result does not mean that its because fo that thing , coz if so than a hindu might get his wishes come true n duaas answered in a tempel n this will be his yaqeen than and he will bring u the same evidence that look it has been tried , everytime i have a probelm i ask bhagwan in temple n he gives me.

any way thats a diffrent topic , i hope u agree that just the result just not justify an act , rather the evidence.

barak Allah feek

both brothers, jazak'allah very much.

n May Allah reward u as well n our brother aabirulsabeel.

I just want to say something n inshahAllah it will benefit n i hope we all agree on this, well before i get into it i agree that the duaa posted is a beautiful duaa , one could do this dua why not , when we make dua to Allah when we are alone for instance at night , we use the duaas proved in ahadeeth n duaas from teh quran but also we call upon Allah by His most beautiful names n siffat n use our own words to for example ask forgiveness , or to praise Him n to use our own words n lines that coem to mind , so there is never no harm on making dua as long as one does not fall in shirk or anything like that or a forbidden thing for example Oh Allag forgive me if u WILL , as its proved the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam prohibited us from it, but other than that we all make duaas in our own words n tarekas n may Allah give us more tawfeeq so here there was no critisism of the duaa posted itself.


N well what i wanted to add here is that , yes some scholars like Al nawawi allow weak ahadeeth for the fadail of deeds , soem dont , lets not get into that , lets agree on this thing which i think is very just.

To all the weak ahadeeth or most of them n the rewards mentinoned for them there is almost always an authentic hadeth with the same fadail of amal , or reward of deeds, what i mean is that at times we have a certain reward we are trying to seek , for example Proptection , Now here we will find Numerous n plenty ahadeeth and duaas n ways to seek protection , like the adkhaars of morning and evening , like ayah al kursi in morning n evening n when sleeping n like all the other beautiful n easy n authentic duaas that we have n than again we will have some weak some very weak n some fabricated n false ahadeeth, so here

I believe n i hope we agree that we should ALWAYS give preceedence to the Sahih Dhikr , Sahih Dua , Sahih way of seeking protection , Sahih way of seeking refuge from the fire n sahih way of clearing our debts rather than turning to weak or actually doing the weak dhikrs or even fabricated n newly invented ones like the wirds n wazeefahs n we know there is a azeefah now a days for everything , like 687 times say this n 1119 times say that n such n such will happen , which was obviously not taught by the prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam n so there is no way for anyone to conclude that such n such reward will be achieved or such n such problem will be solved.

All i am saying is that for every weak hadeeth there is usually an authentic subsititue aviable , so lets all strive n try to learn the authntc ones first m lets try to implement them n work upon the authentic first before going to the weak one , lets try to find the solution of our roblem in the authentic duaasn n ways n dhikrs n amaal proved by the prohet sala lahu alihi wa sallam with god chains , lets try to seek protection FIRST in the authetic duaas n ways , n honestly there is soo many beautifl n authntic duaas n dhikrs out there for protection that one won need to turn to the weak n fabricated ones or other innovated practices n all like reciting ayah al kursi three times before leaving the house for instance.

Wallahi Ikhwani the authentic is sooo enough for us , its more than enough , in it is khair n barakah n in it is peace of mind n in it is the ease n beauty n satisfaction , n in it is InshaAllah great reward, so why leave the authentic n go to the weak one , and i doubt that for any of our matters or problems ther wont be an authentic solution which will make us turn to the weak ones, its about us how much we strive to learn n seek knowledge n may Allah bless u all

So lets master n practise n do the autentic first InshahAllah.

Barak Allahu feekum.

Here is just one example: A weak Hadeeth with the virtue of protection from fire n an authentic one.

Weak
This hadeeth was narrated by Imam Ahmad in al-Musnad, 17362, and by Abu Dawood, 5079. The hadeeth is as follows:

It was narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When you pray Fajr, then say before speaking to any of the people, ‘Allaahumma ajirni min al-naar (O Allaah, protect me from the Fire)’ seven times. Then if you die on that day, Allaah will grant you protection from the Fire. And when you pray Maghrib, then say before speaking to any of the people, ‘Allaahumma inni as’aluka al-jannah, Allaahumma ajirni min al-naar (O Allaah, I ask You for Paradise, O Allaah, protect me from the Fire)’ seven times. Then if you die that night, Allaah will grant you protection from the Fire.”

The hadeeth is not saheeh in its narration from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). See al-Silsilah al-Da’eefah by Shaykh al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him), 1624.

Authetic 1
It was narrated that Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever asks Allaah for Paradise three times, Paradise will say, ‘O Allaah, admit him to Paradise.’ Whoever seeks protection from the Fire three times, Hell will say, ‘O Allaah, protect him from the Fire.’”

Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 2572; Ibn Maajah, 4340. This is a saheeh hadeeth; it was classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) in Saheeh al-Jaami’, 6275).

Authentic 2

‘O Allaah, verily I have reached the morning and call on You, the bearers of Your throne, Your angels, and all of Your creation to witness that You are Allaah, none has the right to be worshipped except You, alone, without partner and that Muhammad is Your Servant and Messenger.’ (four times in the morning and evening)

As far as i remmber the hadeeth about this says who says it once will get 1/4 of his body protected from fire , who says it twice gets 1/2 of his body protected and who says it 3 times gets 3/4 of his body protected and who says it 4 times will be completely protected , So thats why this dua is to be said 4 times, even though i will check if its really authentic but so far it seems its authnetic and Allah knows best but teh first authntic example is indeed authentic InshahAllah.

Authentic 3

Its in sahih Muslim taht who ever prays 4 rakats before the obligatory prayer of dhur (noon) and four after it Allah will Prohibit him on fire( Protect him from fire completely)

So what i am trying to say , if the requiremnt n maqsood is to get protection from fire we could at least do the Authentic first , and as u see for that weak hadeeth for the same reward mentioned in it there are many many other athetic ways , dhikrs , duaas , that can get us the same reward n the same maqsad.

So lets Always atleast do teh authentic first , n inshahAllah it will be sufficnet n enough n if some one wants to do the weak than according to some schlars he can , but Why go for the weak when we have the solution in sahih n authentic.

May Allah rward u all

Assalam O Alikum wa rahmatul Lahi wa barakatuh

brother thank you jazak'allah khair so much.

I agree with everything you have said.

Authetic 1
It was narrated that Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever asks Allaah for Paradise three times, Paradise will say, ‘O Allaah, admit him to Paradise.’ Whoever seeks protection from the Fire three times, Hell will say, ‘O Allaah, protect him from the Fire.’”

Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 2572; Ibn Maajah, 4340. This is a saheeh hadeeth; it was classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) in Saheeh al-Jaami’, 6275).

subhan'allah if its authentic insha'allah then alhumdulilah indeed may allah answer our dua.