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    I was told that I should read this every day, and I have been doing for some time, but I cannot read Urdu/Punjabi - understand Arabic and so I do not know what it means, or is for. Also is this from the authentic hadiths?



    Additionally, I have been told that I should read Ayat Al-Kursi 3 times before leaving the house, which I also have been doing for some time. Now, is there any hadith which supports this? Sorry if I seem lazy, but I am

    JazakAllah.

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    awaiting someones reply

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    can anyone reply please?

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    Here is a translation for the previous lines of dua :

    اللهم أنت ربي لا إله أنت عليك توكلت وأنت رب العرش العظيم
    'Allahumma anta rabbi. La ilaha illa anta alayka tawakaltu wa anta rabbul arshil kareem.'
    "O Allah, You are my Rabb(Lord). There is nothing worthy of worship except you. I rely upon you and you are the owner of the mighty arsh (throne)."

    ما شاء الله كان ومالم يشأ لم يكن ولاحول ولاقوة إلا بالله العلي العظيم
    'MashaAllahu kaana wa ma lamyasha lamyakun. Wa la hawla wa la quwwata illa billa hil ali yil adheem.'
    "Whatever Allah has wished has happened, and whatever Allah has not wished will certainly not happen. There is no pwer or might except from Allah, the most high and most great."

    أعلم أن الله علي كل شئ قدير وان الله قد أحاط بكل شئ علما
    'Aalamu an Allaha ala qulli shayin qadeer.Wa an Allaha qad ahaata bi kulli shayin ilma.'
    "I am aware that Allah has power over everything and verily the knowledge of Allah encircles everything."

    اللهم أني أعوذ بك من شر نفسي ومن شر كل دابة أنت آخذ بناصيتها
    'Allahumma inee aoodhubika min sharri nafsi wa min sharri qulli dabbatin anta akidun bi naasiyatiha. '
    "O Allah ! I seek refuge in you from the evils of myself and from the evil of all the living upon whom you have control."

    إن ربي علي صراط مستقيم
    'Inna rabbi ala siratim mustaqeem.'
    "Verily my Rabb is on the right path !"
    Last edited by marwen; 04-13-2010 at 12:11 AM.



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    Jazak'allah khair brother, thank you very very much, may Allah reward you.

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    Wa iyak Brother ! Thank you too for sharing this dua in the first place.
    Last edited by marwen; 04-13-2010 at 12:12 AM.



    "O you who believe! Fear ALLAH as He should be feared" [aal 'Imraan, 102]

    يَـٰٓأَيُّہَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ ٱتَّقُواْ ٱللَّهَ حَقَّ تُقَاتِهِۦ آل عِمرَان - 102




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    Default Re: Manzil Dua [IMG]

    How do I give you rep brother?

    Also, do you know where in the hadith it is mentioned that you should read ayat al kursi 3 x?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nokiacrazi View Post
    Also, do you know where in the hadith it is mentioned that you should read ayat al kursi 3 x?
    There is a hadeeth in "Sahih Muslim", Narrated by Ubay ibn Ka'b (ra), that sheikh Albani said its a hadeeth sahih (authentic) :
    Ubayy bin Ka'b (radiAllahu anhu) reported: The Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) said: "Abu Mundhir! Do you know which Ayah in Allah's Book is the greatest? I said: 'Allah and His messenger know best.'
    He (peace be upon him) again said: 'Do you know which Ayah in Allah's Book, according to you, is the greatest?' I (Abu Mundhir) replied: It is 'Allah la ilaha illa Huwal-Hayyul-Qayyum'.[2:255].
    Thereupon he (peace be upon him) patted me in the chest and said, ' Rejoice by your knowledge, O Abu Mundhir! (i.e, may this knowledge be a source of respect, honour and benefit to you)'."
    [Sahih Muslim]
    Virtues of reading it :
    Imam Darmi writes that the Devil flees from a home in which Ayat al-Kursi is recited, and does not return until the next morning. Abu Sanan (Allah be well pleased with him) reported that whomsoever reads the first four verses of Surat al-Baqarah, Ayat al-Kursi, and then the last three verses of Surat al-Baqarah will not forget the Quran. Ishaq added that whatever one learns, would not be forgotten. Asma’ bint Yazid (Allah be well pleased with her) reported that the Prophet (Allah bless him and give him peace) said that al-ism al-a‘zam (The greatest name of Allah Most High) is contained within Ayat al-Kursi.
    It shows it's the greatest verse in the qur'an, and there is many virtues of reading it.

    here is a site showing the virtues of reading ayat al-kursi and shows the list of hadeeth(s) about it :
    http://www.islamicinformationcentre.co.uk/alkursi.htm#2

    this is another site explaning ayat al-kursi and the hadeeth(s) related :
    http://www.islamawareness.net/Dua/kursi.html

    I hope it helps you.

    baraka allaho fik brother !
    Last edited by marwen; 04-12-2010 at 07:32 PM.



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    Brother what can I say......Jazak'allah many times over. Alhumdulialah, I can now inform people who were unsure of this, again jazak'allah khair, and +rep

    EDIT : cant add rep to you ;o will add whenever I can insha'allah.
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    Barak Allah feekum akhwaan , but where in those two ahadeeth does it say u have to recite the ayah al kursi three times before u leave the house and also where is the authenticity of the dua the brother posted initially?

    As far as i know that duaa is not authentic n the hadeth where that dua is mentioned is about a sahabi who was told his house is on fire and he did not panic or do anything , than some one else came to him n told him his house was on fire , but he still did not panic nor did he get up to go n see , this happed i dont know how many times , Allahu Aalam , but then when he returned home he saw houses around his house destroyed by the blaze whi,e his house was safe , and then he said i heared the prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam say who ever says this duaa he and his property will be protected , this is just the interperation of the hadeeth n what i can remmbe since it been a long time since i read it , but as far as i think its not saheeh and its not authentic , so can some one bring the whole hadeeth and who narrated it??

    Also yes Ayah al kursi is very important,

    We should recite it in the morniong and in the evening , for the hadeeth when shaytaan was caught and he taught the sahabi to do this so in return he would let him go. InshahAllah i will post the whole hadeeth

    Also it is narrated that the one who recites ayah al kursi after every obligatory salah/prayer , between him n jannah is only death .

    There are many many virtues of Ayah al kursi , no doubt , it should be recited when getting ready to sleep n in bed for protection at night as proved in saheeh ahadeeth

    BUT BROTHERS N SISTERS

    Its not up to me , or u , or such and such sheikh or imam or molvi or hafiz or peer or any body whatsoever , to PRESCRIBE a specific time and number of reciting it , If the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam did not teach us to do it in that matter.

    Brothers n sisters , If the prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam has informed us , n legislated and called for it , then it is to be done , if not than there is no plae for it in our beautiful deen. I was told by some aunties to recite ayah al kursi 11 times and then make dua and i will get a job, and many maany other innovated ways , which the prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam never taught , he never told us If do such n such u will get such n such reward

    REMMBER

    When ever an act of worshi , or good deed or Amal is mentioned and its reward , it has to be from Allah n his Rasool sal lahu lihi wa sallm , NO third authority can legislate it , nor can they ever know how the reward for such and such will be such and such.

    Barak Alah feekum

    It is an innovation to recite it three times before leaving the house ,

    Rather u should recite it once in the morning n till evening u will be protected from shaytaan

    and u should recite the AUTHENTIC duaas of leaving teh hhouse like
    ‘In the name of Allaah, I place my trust in Allaah, and there is no might nor power except with Allaah.’ ISNT IT EASY , ISNT IT BEAUTIFUL , ISNT IT AUTHENTIC ??

    ‘O Allaah, I take refuge with You lest I should stray or be led astray, or slip or be tripped, or oppress or be oppressed, or behave foolishly or be treated foolishly.’

    AND UPON ENTERING THE HOME

    ‘In the name of Allaah we enter and in the name of Allaah we leave, and upon our Lord we place our trust.’

    http://www.makedua.com

    is a website with the duaas we need for morning n evening n all our matters , Its from the book fortification of a muslim , u can buy the book in english as well from any book store its famous n beautiful n AUTHENTIC!

    Barak Alllah feekum

    Anas (ra) reports that Allaah's Messenger (saw) said, "Whoever says (when he leaves his house): "In the Name of Allah, I place my trust upon Alaah, There is no power nor movement except by Allaah" it is said to him: "You have been sufficed, you have been protected and you have been guided". Then one of the devils turns to another and says, "How can you get to a man who has been sufficed, protected and guided". (Abu Dawud, at-Tirmidhi, hasan saheeh).

    Umm Salamah (ra) said, "Allaah's Messenger (saw) never left my house except that he raised his sight to the sky and said, "Allahumma innee a'oodhu bika an adil aw udal, aw azil aw uzal, aw azlima aw uslam, aw ajhal aw yujhal 'aleeyy (O Allaah I seek refuge in you from leading others astray and being led astray, from causing others to slip and being made to slip, from oppressing others or being oppressed and from making others ignorant, and being kept ignorant."" (at-Tirmidhi, Abu Dawood, an-Nasa'ee, Ibn Majah. at-Tirmidhi said "hasan saheeh", al-Albaani agreed with him in al-Kalim ut-Tayyib, no.59).


    How perfect You are O Allaah, and I praise You. I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except You. I seek Your forgiveness and turn to You in repentance

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    Quote Originally Posted by brotherubaid View Post
    As far as i know that duaa is not authentic n the hadeth where that dua is mentioned is about a sahabi who was told his house is on fire and he did not panic or do anything , than some one else came to him n told him his house was on fire , but he still did not panic nor did he get up to go n see , this happed i dont know how many times , Allahu Aalam , but then when he returned home he saw houses around his house destroyed by the blaze whi,e his house was safe , and then he said i heared the prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam say who ever says this duaa he and his property will be protected , this is just the interperation of the hadeeth n what i can remmbe since it been a long time since i read it , but as far as i think its not saheeh and its not authentic , so can some one bring the whole hadeeth and who narrated it??
    Thank you Brother Ubaid. I was helping to translate the dua, but I was wrong because I forgot to verify if there is an authentic hadeeth about this du'a. You're right, now I don't find any hadeeth sahih (authentic) about it. The only hadeeth I found is the one you mentioned about the house of abi darda'a that was safe from burning. Indeed it's a weak hadeeth (ضعيف) : Sheikh Albany showed that it's a weak hadeeth in ["Al-kalimo At-tayib" hadeeth N28] :
    الحمد لله
    الحديث لفظه كالتالي :
    عن طلق بن حبيب قال: جاء رجل إلى أبي الدرداء فقال: يا أبا الدرداء! قد احترق بيتك . فقال: ما احترق ، لم يكن الله ليفعل ذلك بكلمات سمعتهن من رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم ، من قالها أول نهاره لم تصبه مصيبة حتى يمسي ، و من قالها آخر النهار لم تصبه مصيبة حتى يصبح:
    "" اللهم أنت ربي لا إله إلا أنت ، عليك توكلت ، و أنت رب العرش العظيم ، ما شاء الله كان ، و ما لم يشأ لم يكن ، لا حول و لا قوة إلا بالله العلي العظيم ، أعلم أن الله على كل شيء قدير ، و أن الله قد أحاط بكل شيء علما ، اللهم إني أعوذ بك من شر نفسي ، و من شر كل دابة أنت آخذ بناصيتها ، إن ربي على صراط مستقيم ""
    وهو حديث ضعيف ، انظر الكلم الطيب تحقيق الألباني رحمه الله ح28 وبالله التوفيق
    source
    So I'm sorry I was wrong.

    To brother Nokiacrazi :
    I'm sorry brother, I did the translation of the du'a "Manzil", but this du'a is not sure (no authentic hadeeth supporting). Please avoid it.



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    يَـٰٓأَيُّہَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُواْ ٱتَّقُواْ ٱللَّهَ حَقَّ تُقَاتِهِۦ آل عِمرَان - 102




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    No no dont be sorry brother , u did pretty good with the trabnslation though , may Allah reward u , i just wanted to point out that its not saheeh.

    n well my advise to eveyone who is seeking protection from ALL sorts of evil , First n foremost from Shaytaan n jinns , from magic n hasad n evil eye , from all sorts of calamities , then please do ur morning and evening dhikrs , which are not only very easy , practicable , do-able n authentic n well amazingly beaituful , full of submission to Allah n full of the beauty of tawheed, The book Fortification of a muslim/Fortress of The Muslim
    is a good book , it contains all of them n its aviable in many languages wih arabic text n translation n reward of the duaas aswell as informed by teh Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam.

    N it costs like 2 riyals ,

    Here are some examples

    In the name of Allaah with those name nothing is harmed on earth nor in the heavens and He is The All-Seeing, The All-Knowing.’ (three times)

    I take refuge in Allaah’s perfect words from the evil He has created.’ (three times)

    ‘We have reached the evening and at this very tiem unto Allaah belongs all sovereignity, and all praise is for Allaah. None has the right to be worshipped except Allaah, alone, without partner, to Him belongs all sovereignty and praise and He is over all things omnipotent. My Lord, I ask for the good of this night and the good of what follows it and I take refuge in You from the evil of this night and the evil of what follows it. My Lord, I take refuge in You from laziness and senility. My Lord, I take refuge in You from torment in the Fire and punishment in the grave.
    …likewise, one says in the morning:


    ‘We have reached the morning and at this very time unto Allaah belongs all sovereignty…’


    O Allaah, by your leave we have reached the morning and by Your leave we have reached the evening, by Your leave we live and die and unto You is our resurrection.’

    In the evening:

    ‘O Allaah, by Your leave we have reached the evening and by Your leave we have reached the morning, by Your leave we live and die and unto You is our return.’

    I take refuge in Allaah’s perfect words from the evil He has created.’ (three times)


    O Allaah, I ask You for pardon and well being in this life and the next. O Allaah, I ask You for pardon and well-being in my religious and worldly affairs, and my family and my wealth. O Allaah, veil my weaknesses and set at ease my dismay. O Allaah, preserve me from the front and from behind and on my right and on my left and from above, and I take refuge with You lest I be swallowed up by the earth.’


    O Allaah, Knower of the unseen and the seen, Creator of he heavens and the Earth, Lord and Sovereign of all things, I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except You. I take refuge in You from the evil of my soul and from the evil and shirk of the devil, and from committing wrong against my soul or bringing such upon another Muslim.’


    Arent they amazing?
    http://www.makedua.com
    Barak Allahu feekum


    How perfect You are O Allaah, and I praise You. I bear witness that none has the right to be worshipped except You. I seek Your forgiveness and turn to You in repentance

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    Quote Originally Posted by marwen View Post
    Thank you Brother Ubaid. I was helping to translate the dua, but I was wrong because I forgot to verify if there is an authentic hadeeth about this du'a. You're right, now I don't find any hadeeth sahih (authentic) about it. The only hadeeth I found is the one you mentioned about the house of abi darda'a that was safe from burning. Indeed it's a weak hadeeth (ضعيف) : Sheikh Albany showed that it's a weak hadeeth in ["Al-kalimo At-tayib" hadeeth N28] :

    So I'm sorry I was wrong.

    To brother Nokiacrazi :
    I'm sorry brother, I did the translation of the du'a "Manzil", but this du'a is not sure (no authentic hadeeth supporting). Please avoid it.
    Though a Hadith mentioning a benefit of a certain action is Dha'eef, it is allowed to practice on it. Dha'eef Ahadith are not fabricated Ahadith. 'Ulama of the past and present, all allow the narration and practice upon Dha'eef Ahadith in matters of Fazail (virtues), but they don't take it for deriving any masa'il (rulings).

    This dua is mentioned in the book: زاد المعاد في هدي خير العباد

    Shaikh Bin Baz says about the Dua mentioned by the OP:
    الحديث ضعيف،
    ولكن إذا عمل به الإنسان رجاء أن ينفعه الله به فهو ذكر طيب،

    وهو ذكر عظيم ذكر طيب لا بأس به،

    لكن من غير اعتقاد أنه يحصل به هذا المطلوب،
    وبغير اعتقاد أنه سنة،

    لكنه ذكر من أعظم الذكر المشروع، ذكر طيب عظيم مشروع،

    لكن لا يعتقد فيه هذا الشيء الذي جاء فيه، ثم يقول:
    فعلت ولم يستجب لي! ولم يحصل،

    لكن الأذكار الشرعية كلها مطلوبة. -
    نقف قليلا لو تكرمتم سماحة الشيخ عند العمل بالأحاديث الضعيفة،
    هل يشرع ذلك أم لا؟


    ج/
    إذا وافقت الأحاديث الصحيحة في المعنى كأحاديث الأذكار
    والاستغفار والتوبة من غير اعتقاد ما علق عليه في الأحاديث الضعيفة.


    - إذن إذا لم يكن لها سند صحيح فلا يعمل بها؟
    ج/ إذا كان المعنى صحيح فلا بأس،
    يعمل به ولا بأس، ولا يضر، لكن من غير اعتقاد ما جاء في الحديث:
    أنه يفعل به كذا، وأنه يحصل له كذا، ويحصل له كذا.
    Listen the Fatwa here: http://www.binbaz.org.sa/audio/noor/036311.mp3
    Summary of the Fatwa: This Hadith is Dha'eef, but if a person practices upon it, it is hoped that Allah will benefit him with it because this is a very good zikr and very great zikr. But it should be read without the belief that you will get the benefit mentioned therein because if you read it and you do not get benefitted then you will say I read this and I did not any benefit.

    Many other 'Ulama emphasize reading this Dua and the Aayat collected in the Manzil for protection from worldly harm. It is a tested Dua, ie practical experience has shown that we do get benefit from it.
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    Default Re: Manzil Dua [IMG]

    Jazak'allah khairun all brothers very very much. May Allah reward, bless all of you, and may he guide us all to siratul mustaqeem.

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    yes may Allah have mercy on ibn baaz , the important thing is that it should be read without the belief that you will get the benefit mentioned therein . and Allah knows best , i agree that the duaa is beautiful though , saying it is no harm but do not believe that such and such reward u will get.

    and also just a point of benefit , the reults do not necessiate that the reward is such n such , if so than those who wear shirki taweez n with magical talisms in them might get the benefit they were looking for , might even concieve a baby if that is what they wore it for , might never get a fever if that is what they wore it for , this does not necessrily means that it is alright and it is proven.

    Once a person told me Wallahi that if u read in witr namaz , first rakat surah al nasr , second surah al masad and third surah al ikhlaas U WILL NEVER GET PAIN IN UR EAR , i smiled and started to explain that brother this is not true nor is it sunnah nor is it prescribed nor is this benefit prescribed to whcih he REPLIED : THIS HAS BEEN TESTED AND PROVED BY THE ELDERS , the have tested it for years and come to this conclusion , so its proven

    to which i say well those elders first of all
    - missed out on the sunnah of reciting the surahs that the prophet sala lahu alihi wa salam used to recite n secondly by preaching this have deviated the ummah from following the sunnh as well , n here i say that one can read any surah they want in witr , but we do know what was proved by the prophet so if one can recite al aala n kafiroon n ikhlaas , well n good , if not then any other surah will do , there is no harm or any bar , but to prescribe certain surahs n then call towards it , n derive a benefit n fruit out of it n derive outr of it a reward n then say its been prove or tested wallahi is not right.

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    alhumdulilah brother, insha'allah I shall now try to check up everything before I pass on to a 3rd party, and I think that something among these lines is in the hadith? jazak'allah khair.

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    brotherubaid, there is a difference between the example you gave and the Dua mentioned by Nokiacrazi. That Dua is mentioned in a Hadith, while the example you gave may not be taken from any Hadith.
    Allah says in a Hadith Qudsi, I am with the Dhann of my servant. If you have Husn Dhann with Allah and believe that Allah will protect you, He will surely protect you.
    There is actually a lesson for us that Hadith. It teaches us how our Yaqeen should be on the sayings of Rasulullah Sallallahu 'Alaihi wa Sallam. Three people come to Abu Darda RadhiyAllahu 'Anhu after personally witnessing the fire and say that your house is burnt. But Abu Darda RadhiyAllahu 'Anhu had so firm yaqeen on the saying of Rasulullah Sallallahu 'Alaihi wa Sallam that he calmly replies them that it can't be true.
    Just imagine, 3 witness on one side and Hadith on one side. Who do you believe? It's easy to say I believe in Hadith, but imagine the same with you, someone coming to you and saying your house is on fire. Even if we have slightest doubt on the saying of Rasulullah Sallallahu 'Alaihi wa Sallam, then our Iman is in danger.
    A fourth person comes and says, O Abu Darda (RA), the fire reached very near to your house and then it died out. What made you say with firm belief that your house cannot be on fire? He then narrates the Dua saying he heard Rasulullah Sallallahu 'Alaihi wa Sallam say whoever recites it in the morning, nothing can harm him for the whole day.

    This Hadith is mentioned in Zaadul Ma'ad fi Hadyi Khairil 'Ibad by Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim Rahimahullah. It can be read here in Arabic: http://sirah.al-islam.com/display.asp?f=zad2100.htm (This is a very authentic website run by Ministry of Islamic Affairs, Endowments, Da‘wah and Guidance of the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.)
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    yes brother aabirul sabeel , barak Allah feek , i was talking in gereral , i wanted to point out the fact that just the result does not automaticaly mean that this thing is the remedy for this thing as i proved in my last post and the examples are plenty , so i wasnt even talking about this particular hadeeth, but rather trying to get a point across that just coz something gives u a result does not mean that its because fo that thing , coz if so than a hindu might get his wishes come true n duaas answered in a tempel n this will be his yaqeen than and he will bring u the same evidence that look it has been tried , everytime i have a probelm i ask bhagwan in temple n he gives me.

    any way thats a diffrent topic , i hope u agree that just the result just not justify an act , rather the evidence.

    barak Allah feek


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    both brothers, jazak'allah very much.

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    n May Allah reward u as well n our brother aabirulsabeel.

    I just want to say something n inshahAllah it will benefit n i hope we all agree on this, well before i get into it i agree that the duaa posted is a beautiful duaa , one could do this dua why not , when we make dua to Allah when we are alone for instance at night , we use the duaas proved in ahadeeth n duaas from teh quran but also we call upon Allah by His most beautiful names n siffat n use our own words to for example ask forgiveness , or to praise Him n to use our own words n lines that coem to mind , so there is never no harm on making dua as long as one does not fall in shirk or anything like that or a forbidden thing for example Oh Allag forgive me if u WILL , as its proved the Prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam prohibited us from it, but other than that we all make duaas in our own words n tarekas n may Allah give us more tawfeeq so here there was no critisism of the duaa posted itself.


    N well what i wanted to add here is that , yes some scholars like Al nawawi allow weak ahadeeth for the fadail of deeds , soem dont , lets not get into that , lets agree on this thing which i think is very just.

    To all the weak ahadeeth or most of them n the rewards mentinoned for them there is almost always an authentic hadeth with the same fadail of amal , or reward of deeds, what i mean is that at times we have a certain reward we are trying to seek , for example Proptection , Now here we will find Numerous n plenty ahadeeth and duaas n ways to seek protection , like the adkhaars of morning and evening , like ayah al kursi in morning n evening n when sleeping n like all the other beautiful n easy n authentic duaas that we have n than again we will have some weak some very weak n some fabricated n false ahadeeth, so here

    I believe n i hope we agree that we should ALWAYS give preceedence to the Sahih Dhikr , Sahih Dua , Sahih way of seeking protection , Sahih way of seeking refuge from the fire n sahih way of clearing our debts rather than turning to weak or actually doing the weak dhikrs or even fabricated n newly invented ones like the wirds n wazeefahs n we know there is a azeefah now a days for everything , like 687 times say this n 1119 times say that n such n such will happen , which was obviously not taught by the prophet sala lahu alihi wa sallam n so there is no way for anyone to conclude that such n such reward will be achieved or such n such problem will be solved.

    All i am saying is that for every weak hadeeth there is usually an authentic subsititue aviable , so lets all strive n try to learn the authntc ones first m lets try to implement them n work upon the authentic first before going to the weak one , lets try to find the solution of our roblem in the authentic duaasn n ways n dhikrs n amaal proved by the prohet sala lahu alihi wa sallam with god chains , lets try to seek protection FIRST in the authetic duaas n ways , n honestly there is soo many beautifl n authntic duaas n dhikrs out there for protection that one won need to turn to the weak n fabricated ones or other innovated practices n all like reciting ayah al kursi three times before leaving the house for instance.

    Wallahi Ikhwani the authentic is sooo enough for us , its more than enough , in it is khair n barakah n in it is peace of mind n in it is the ease n beauty n satisfaction , n in it is InshaAllah great reward, so why leave the authentic n go to the weak one , and i doubt that for any of our matters or problems ther wont be an authentic solution which will make us turn to the weak ones, its about us how much we strive to learn n seek knowledge n may Allah bless u all

    So lets master n practise n do the autentic first InshahAllah.

    Barak Allahu feekum.

    Here is just one example: A weak Hadeeth with the virtue of protection from fire n an authentic one.

    Weak
    This hadeeth was narrated by Imam Ahmad in al-Musnad, 17362, and by Abu Dawood, 5079. The hadeeth is as follows:

    It was narrated that the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “When you pray Fajr, then say before speaking to any of the people, ‘Allaahumma ajirni min al-naar (O Allaah, protect me from the Fire)’ seven times. Then if you die on that day, Allaah will grant you protection from the Fire. And when you pray Maghrib, then say before speaking to any of the people, ‘Allaahumma inni as’aluka al-jannah, Allaahumma ajirni min al-naar (O Allaah, I ask You for Paradise, O Allaah, protect me from the Fire)’ seven times. Then if you die that night, Allaah will grant you protection from the Fire.”

    The hadeeth is not saheeh in its narration from the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him). See al-Silsilah al-Da’eefah by Shaykh al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him), 1624.

    Authetic 1
    It was narrated that Anas (may Allaah be pleased with him) said: The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever asks Allaah for Paradise three times, Paradise will say, ‘O Allaah, admit him to Paradise.’ Whoever seeks protection from the Fire three times, Hell will say, ‘O Allaah, protect him from the Fire.’”

    Narrated by al-Tirmidhi, 2572; Ibn Maajah, 4340. This is a saheeh hadeeth; it was classed as saheeh by Shaykh al-Albaani (may Allaah have mercy on him) in Saheeh al-Jaami’, 6275).

    Authentic 2

    ‘O Allaah, verily I have reached the morning and call on You, the bearers of Your throne, Your angels, and all of Your creation to witness that You are Allaah, none has the right to be worshipped except You, alone, without partner and that Muhammad is Your Servant and Messenger.’ (four times in the morning and evening)

    As far as i remmber the hadeeth about this says who says it once will get 1/4 of his body protected from fire , who says it twice gets 1/2 of his body protected and who says it 3 times gets 3/4 of his body protected and who says it 4 times will be completely protected , So thats why this dua is to be said 4 times, even though i will check if its really authentic but so far it seems its authnetic and Allah knows best but teh first authntic example is indeed authentic InshahAllah.

    Authentic 3

    Its in sahih Muslim taht who ever prays 4 rakats before the obligatory prayer of dhur (noon) and four after it Allah will Prohibit him on fire( Protect him from fire completely)

    So what i am trying to say , if the requiremnt n maqsood is to get protection from fire we could at least do the Authentic first , and as u see for that weak hadeeth for the same reward mentioned in it there are many many other athetic ways , dhikrs , duaas , that can get us the same reward n the same maqsad.

    So lets Always atleast do teh authentic first , n inshahAllah it will be sufficnet n enough n if some one wants to do the weak than according to some schlars he can , but Why go for the weak when we have the solution in sahih n authentic.

    May Allah rward u all

    Assalam O Alikum wa rahmatul Lahi wa barakatuh


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