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Default Re: Marrying Reverts - 04-21-2005

I dont think Muhammad Ali went to Hajj... Muhammed Ali left nation in the year 1975.... and because sunni muslim. and that was after malcolm X was assassinated.

but i think since malcolm X ( Al haj malik Shabazz) was the one to invite Ali to NOI, Ali followed him after he left NOI.
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That's true but Muhammed Ali did'nt convert to orthodox islam till way after Malcolm X's death which meant that Malcolm died on not very good terms with muhammed Ali.
   
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Default Re: Marrying Reverts - 04-21-2005

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That's true but Muhammed Ali did'nt convert to orthodox islam till way after Malcolm X's death which meant that Malcolm died on not very good terms with muhammed Ali.
That's true. When Malcom X left the Nation of Islam, Muhammad Ali was very angry with him for disobeying Elimah Muhammad. But when Malcom X was assasinated Muhammad Ali was deeply hurt, and visited his funeral. I don't think he's ever been to Hajj, but I still feel that he isn't very knowledgable about Islam. Inshallah though maybe one day Allah will open up his eyes to the full knowledge.
   
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"usually people with niqaab/hijab are bad girls..they try to look nice in front of people but inside they are bad...and the guys side wants someone who are not hijabi/niqabi.

I was just staring at her blankly...then salah started...I was gonna give her lecture on that...then I told myself "forget it...its no use."
You should have gave her a lecture .... staying silent doesn't help. bad girls? I think it's completely the opposite. I will be a lucky man to be married to a girl who wears the hijab and doesnt' show alot of skin (trust me, it's not easy finding one here in Canada). I don't want other men lusting over my wife. Yes, some men might go for the scandalous girls because they show off their assets and will have sex soon. Also the guys know they got no chance with girls like you because you are not into one night stands and sex before marriage. It will take a special and honorable man to be your husband. I can't speak for all but many muslims (especially parents) in Canada actually think highly of girls like you.
   
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Well...its not only here in Canada..it's everywhere..but sis SalafiFemaleJihadist..i can't belive they said that Were they their selves wearing hijaab or niqaab? Did they think of their selves as being bad girls inside but look nice to people on the outside...i wonder why they would say such things..
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You should have gave her a lecture .... staying silent doesn't help. bad girls? I think it's completely the opposite. I will be a lucky man to be married to a girl who wears the hijab and doesnt' show alot of skin (trust me, it's not easy finding one here in Canada). I don't want other men lusting over my wife. Yes, some men might go for the scandalous girls because they show off their assets and will have sex soon. Also the guys know they got no chance with girls like you because you are not into one night stands and sex before marriage. It will take a special and honorable man to be your husband. I can't speak for all but many muslims (especially parents) in Canada actually think highly of girls like you.
Asalamualaikum wr wb akhi!!

few desi's in chicago thinks if u are a niqaabi(female who covers face) then u are more messed up, because the more we cover...then they think there are more secrets(as in bad stuff) behind us....which is not true at alll.

brother, jazkAllah kher for making me feel so special, but its sad to see our own sisters in Islam thinks bad of me and other niqaabis.

It have been really hard for me wearing niqaab since past 2 days cuz I'm sick of people making comments....usually, I try to smile and take it easy when they say stuff about me...but then sometimes when our own relatives makes fun of ur niqaab...then it really hurts.

well, by the end of the day...I try to forget everything...I smile and forgive people who hurts my feelings....cuz whatever i'm doing is just for the sake of Allah swt....who cares about other people.

May Allah forgive me, If I think bad about my own brothers and sisters Ameen.

May Allah swt guide muslimeen to the right path...the path of pious Ameen.

I think I should go sleep now....I'm dead tired.

walaikum salaaam wr wb.
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Default Re: Marrying Reverts - 04-22-2005

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Asalamualaikum wr wb akhi!!

few desi's in chicago thinks if u are a niqaabi(female who covers face) then u are more messed up, because the more we cover...then they think there are more secrets(as in bad stuff) behind us....which is not true at alll.

Subhanallah.... thats the dumbest thing i have ever heard!... I think its only amoungsts the "desi's" ( or Asians) because arabs/africans look up to those who cover. ( excuse me if i am wrong)

But i also had a desi friend and she told me that her family discourage covering because they say no man wants a women like that.... thats sad. But i am sure its not all....

Another thing like i said some of our "sisters iin islam" may Allah guide them. ~ameen~ they make such excuses to make them selfs feel better about not covering.
Mashallah i envey you u are going through struggle wearing niqab while i have it so easy. LUCKY!

anyway what would give to be in your place at lest for a day so that i can feel my self being tested for the sake of Allah.
mashallah, but dont worry there are many more of us out there at lest now you know you belong
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Well...its not only here in Canada..it's everywhere..but sis SalafiFemaleJihadist..i can't belive they said that Were they their selves wearing hijaab or niqaab? Did they think of their selves as being bad girls inside but look nice to people on the outside...i wonder why they would say such things..
Asalamaualikum wr wb ukhti!!

umm yeah they were wearing hijab. They know me very well...I usually see them at halaqas(islamic gatherings).

we hear lot of stories about niqaabi girls out there...but then I think of myself...maybe they are people outside who makes fun of me too...its not just them...maybe there are rumours about me too because now i'm known as female who is fully covered...now people are more suspicious about me....they are looking for just one mistake that im gonna make...and then they will make my life miserable(as in...they will spread it around as rumours)....u know actually someone really said that to me. But, Allahmdulillah I try to keep myself under control I know my limits.... I believe i will not fall in shaytans trap inshaAllah. Allah swt knows the best about my intentions and whatever is hidden in my heart.

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yes i know what u mean by that u need to watch out for even the slightest mistake, even if u smile abit to much then ppl might get wrong ideas about you (well u wear niqaab soo, but u understand what i mean)

yes and sister aisha ur right, that most arabs and africans look up to covered ppl, but i never knew its this sad amongst the asian community subhanAllah, shaytaan has certainly deceived the ppl, following that logic ppl that flash alot of flesh are "normal"?
   
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I've noticed that lately a lot of Muslims, (mainly women), have been saying that they would like to marry someone who is a revert. I can understand not discriminating on the basis of whether someone is a revert or has been a Muslim their entire life, but why limit your potential spouses to only reverts? I think that the main reason why some Muslims want to marry reverts is because they won't have to deal with the inlaws. Since the reverts parents are non-Muslim, they won't even have to come in contact with them. What do you guys think is the reason why Muslims want to marry reverts these days?
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Ya Akhti first i agree with you that mainly sister want to marry reverts....secondly let me correct you. I don't believe that these sister want to marry these reverts beacause of dealing with less family "responsibilities".

Sister tend to want to marry these reverts cuz they take Islam seriously. And this the case with MOST reverts. Allah Knows Best. They take Islam as their way of life. Comapre most reverts to born muslim's. I'm not saying the "we" born muslims and brought up as muslims don't practise islam. Of cuz there are born muslim we are masha Allah practising Alhmdulilaah.

Ok I'm just going on.....

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Default Re: Marrying Reverts - 04-22-2005

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Assalaamu Alaykum wr wb

Ya Akhti first i agree with you that mainly sister want to marry reverts....secondly let me correct you. I don't believe that these sister want to marry these reverts beacause of dealing with less family "responsibilities".

Sister tend to want to marry these reverts cuz they take Islam seriously. And this the case with MOST reverts. Allah Knows Best. They take Islam as their way of life. Comapre most reverts to born muslim's. I'm not saying the "we" born muslims and brought up as muslims don't practise islam. Of cuz there are born muslim we are masha Allah practising Alhmdulilaah.

Ok I'm just going on.....

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I've heard that argument as well but I don't buy it. Reverts tend to be very focused on learning Islam the first few months/years that they become a Muslim. But after a while of being a Muslim most reverts tend to act like the majority of those who are born Muslim. Although some continue on being very religious. Plus, in most cases reverts take a long while to learn how to pray, read quran, and learn their duas and it is very difficult for them for a while before they get used to it. So I don't Muslim women should marry a man who just reverted because she will end up having to teach him many things and will serve as a model for him. Rather it should be the husband who is teaching the wife and being an example for her, because that is one of the rights that women have over men. I know of many cases where women marry a revert man and after they get married he will stop praying and go back to his sinful ways. So I suggest that women marry men who have been Muslims for many years and are very knowledgeable about Islam and have memorized a good portion of the Quran so that it can be easier for them and their children once they get married. For a Muslim woman to marry a revert because she thinks that it will help her to be more religious is not smart in my idea. It will be more like a burden on her to teach her husband until he knows as much as she does, and then who will teach her? See where I'm getting.

I'm a firm believer that people should work on their character and their deen before getting married, and not afterwards. Many people say that once they get married they will change. For instance some women say that once they get married they will start wearing the hijab, or some men say that once they get married they will start to pray more and grow a beard and memorize the Quran. The truth is that if we don't work on those things now instead of putting them off into the future, we will never get them done. It's always, "I'll do it tomorrow". Well guess what? Tomorrows dreams will never become a reality unless you start to fulfill them today.

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Default Re: Marrying Reverts - 04-24-2005

Bismilah

My husband is a revert to Islam. He reverted to islam when he was 17 and he did his haj that same year. There is so much he teaches me about my Islam .

About the niqaab & Hijab, There is an outer hijab and an inner hijab. No matter how covered you are if you don't have the inner hijab your covering is without a purpose and meaningless. I think it's really important that we first perfect our inner hijab. And Make our intentions serene and pure and for Allahs sake only. When that is achieved thats when your outer hijab becomes a reflection of our inner muslim. Thats when Your Imaan and akhlaq shine through the way you walk, talk, and in every slightest move you make mashaAllah.

I don't want to complain about anyone else's bad manner because subhanaAllah I should worry about my own. But I think a lot of the times many people wear the hijab just for the sake of wearing it. It is better to not wear it than to wear it for any other reason or purpose except to please Allah.

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