Still want to vote? -

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Bismillaah

okie i've edited my post and deleted my contents and inserted the Following by Aboo Sulaymaan jazaahullaahu khayr which was posted at tibyaan forums as i felt his words are much more comprehensive and beneficial than mines mashaAllaah Ta`ala.

As-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaahi Wa Barakaatuh

The democratic elections are soon approaching in the u.k. and there will again be a strong push by people to get everyone involved in voting, and they will try to pass this off as being Islaamically permissable, and some will say that it is recommended, while those who are further away from the Guidnce will say that it is an obligation upon the Muslims to vote. Please, take the material that clarifies the rulings on voting and elections and spread it as much as you can. Print the books and articles and hand them out, whoever has the ability to give Khutbahs and/or lessons, then let the topic be on this issue for the next while. Don't let those who call to shirk have more influence than those who call to Tawheed. This is an obligation on everyone, each based upon his own ability. If we see how much zeal these people have in calling to shirk, then we should have more than that when calling to the Truth. Don't forget this, and remember how many of us were upon misguidance until Allaah Ta'aala let someone show us the Truth, so be that to someone else, and don't just say that they are misguided, so who cares.

Jazaakum Allaahu Khayran.
Once again forgive me inshaAllaah for leaving this most important topic so late!

Was Salaamu alaykum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh

Genius · 11:58 PM

Again typical HT --, where do you want to go for laws regarding speed limit, hospitals, education, not everything is about a War on Islam, can HT bring one single hadith or ayah where the Prophet banned voting in Kufr elections?

MODERATOR'S COMMENT: PLEASE AVOID USING PROFANITY, EVEN IN SHORT FORM.

Khattab · **Re: Still want to vote? - -** 05-01-2005

Exactly, nothing wrong with voting, so if gay marriage's are allowed for example and new law is made, and the muslims never opposed it because they couldnt vote, but if they had voted they had the ability to prevent it bieng brought in, is that right?

We need to vote to stand up and makes ourselves heard instead of bieng trampled over.

**Re: Still want to vote? - -** 05-01-2005

'Have you seen those who claim that they believe in that which has been sent down to you and that which has been sent down before you and they wish to go for judgement in their dispute to the Taaghout i.e. false Judges etc while they have been ordered to reject them but Shaytaan wishes to lead them far astray' [4:60]

refer to tafsir of this verse for further clarification inshaAllah

**Ansar Al-'Adl** · **Re: Still want to vote? - -** 05-01-2005

No one is referring their judgement to anyone, we are having a say in the issues of the country. If you won't vote, you'll be run over and will have to live in more unislamic conditions.

Khattab · **Re: Still want to vote? - -** 05-01-2005

Its common sense, I dont know how some people think.

**Al-Mu'minah** · **Re: Still want to vote? - -** 05-01-2005

Huh? I'm confused? Are we allowed to vote? Yes? No?

Khattab · **Re: Still want to vote? - -** 05-01-2005

YES! And it is an obligation

**Al-Mu'minah** · **Re: Still want to vote? - -** 05-01-2005

Are you serious!!!??! I didn't know. Whats the proof...so that i can feel at peace?

Khattab · **Re: Still want to vote? - -** 05-01-2005

http://www.sunnahonline.com/library/...orary/0037.htm

**Ansar Al-'Adl** · **Re: Still want to vote? - -** 05-01-2005

Yes, it is an obligation to vote, because, by voting we are establishing the values of Islam.

Ibn Syed · **Re: Still want to vote? - -** 05-01-2005

There is nothing that goes much against it in Islam.

Chuck · **Re: Still want to vote? - -** 05-01-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jannah

Huh? I'm confused? Are we allowed to vote? Yes? No?

Well I wouldn't say it is fard or haram. But if you want to establish Islamic values then it is the right thing to do.

sonofadam · **Re: Still want to vote? - -** 05-02-2005

Good website backed with evidences rather than personal opinion and following of desires on the impermissibility of voting.

**Re: Still want to vote? - -** 05-02-2005

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ansar Al-'Adl

Yes, it is an obligation to vote, because, by voting we are establishing the values of Islam.

evidence from Quraan and sunnah?

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tawbah Guest Status: Posts: n/a Reputation: Gender:	Still want to vote? - - 04-30-2005 Bismillaah okie i've edited my post and deleted my contents and inserted the Following by Aboo Sulaymaan jazaahullaahu khayr which was posted at tibyaan forums as i felt his words are much more comprehensive and beneficial than mines mashaAllaah Ta`ala. As-Salaamu 'Alaykum Wa Rahmatullaahi Wa Barakaatuh The democratic elections are soon approaching in the u.k. and there will again be a strong push by people to get everyone involved in voting, and they will try to pass this off as being Islaamically permissable, and some will say that it is recommended, while those who are further away from the Guidnce will say that it is an obligation upon the Muslims to vote. Please, take the material that clarifies the rulings on voting and elections and spread it as much as you can. Print the books and articles and hand them out, whoever has the ability to give Khutbahs and/or lessons, then let the topic be on this issue for the next while. Don't let those who call to shirk have more influence than those who call to Tawheed. This is an obligation on everyone, each based upon his own ability. If we see how much zeal these people have in calling to shirk, then we should have more than that when calling to the Truth. Don't forget this, and remember how many of us were upon misguidance until Allaah Ta'aala let someone show us the Truth, so be that to someone else, and don't just say that they are misguided, so who cares. Jazaakum Allaahu Khayran. Once again forgive me inshaAllaah for leaving this most important topic so late! Was Salaamu alaykum wa rahmatullaahi wa barakaatuh Last edited by -Umm_Abdullah-; 04-30-2005 at 09:17 PM.

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Genius Paranoid Android Status: Offline Posts: 462 Reputation: 1040 Rep Power: 24 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Manchester/Leicester Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Still want to vote? - - 05-01-2005 Again typical HT --, where do you want to go for laws regarding speed limit, hospitals, education, not everything is about a War on Islam, can HT bring one single hadith or ayah where the Prophet banned voting in Kufr elections? MODERATOR'S COMMENT: PLEASE AVOID USING PROFANITY, EVEN IN SHORT FORM. Last edited by Ansar Al-'Adl; 05-03-2005 at 11:58 PM.

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Khattab Slave of Allah Status: Offline Posts: 567 Reputation: 543 Rep Power: 23 Join Date: Dec 2004 Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Still want to vote? - - 05-01-2005 Exactly, nothing wrong with voting, so if gay marriage's are allowed for example and new law is made, and the muslims never opposed it because they couldnt vote, but if they had voted they had the ability to prevent it bieng brought in, is that right? We need to vote to stand up and makes ourselves heard instead of bieng trampled over. __________________ *"Lo! the Hour is surely coming, there is no doubt thereof; yet most of mankind believe not." (Al-Ghafir:59)*

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tawbah Guest Status: Posts: n/a Reputation: Gender:	Re: Still want to vote? - - 05-01-2005 'Have you seen those who claim that they believe in that which has been sent down to you and that which has been sent down before you and they wish to go for judgement in their dispute to the Taaghout i.e. false Judges etc while they have been ordered to reject them but Shaytaan wishes to lead them far astray' [4:60] refer to tafsir of this verse for further clarification inshaAllah

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Ansar Al-'Adl Administrator Status: Offline Posts: 5,165 Reputation: 12619 Rep Power: 43 Join Date: Dec 2004 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Still want to vote? - - 05-01-2005 No one is referring their judgement to anyone, we are having a say in the issues of the country. If you won't vote, you'll be run over and will have to live in more unislamic conditions. __________________ The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "Surely I was sent to perfect the qualities of righteous character" [Musnad Ahmad, Muwatta Mâlik] Visit Ansâr Al-'Adl's personal page HERE. Excellent resources on Islam listed HERE.

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Khattab Slave of Allah Status: Offline Posts: 567 Reputation: 543 Rep Power: 23 Join Date: Dec 2004 Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Still want to vote? - - 05-01-2005 Its common sense, I dont know how some people think. __________________ *"Lo! the Hour is surely coming, there is no doubt thereof; yet most of mankind believe not." (Al-Ghafir:59)*

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Al-Mu'minah Super Moderator Status: Offline Posts: 5,128 Reputation: 22168 Rep Power: 55 Join Date: Jan 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Still want to vote? - - 05-01-2005 Huh? I'm confused? Are we allowed to vote? Yes? No? __________________

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Khattab Slave of Allah Status: Offline Posts: 567 Reputation: 543 Rep Power: 23 Join Date: Dec 2004 Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Still want to vote? - - 05-01-2005 YES! And it is an obligation __________________ *"Lo! the Hour is surely coming, there is no doubt thereof; yet most of mankind believe not." (Al-Ghafir:59)*

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Al-Mu'minah Super Moderator Status: Offline Posts: 5,128 Reputation: 22168 Rep Power: 55 Join Date: Jan 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Still want to vote? - - 05-01-2005 Are you serious!!!??! I didn't know. Whats the proof...so that i can feel at peace? __________________

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Khattab Slave of Allah Status: Offline Posts: 567 Reputation: 543 Rep Power: 23 Join Date: Dec 2004 Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Still want to vote? - - 05-01-2005 http://www.sunnahonline.com/library/...orary/0037.htm __________________ *"Lo! the Hour is surely coming, there is no doubt thereof; yet most of mankind believe not." (Al-Ghafir:59)*

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Ansar Al-'Adl Administrator Status: Offline Posts: 5,165 Reputation: 12619 Rep Power: 43 Join Date: Dec 2004 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Still want to vote? - - 05-01-2005 Yes, it is an obligation to vote, because, by voting we are establishing the values of Islam. __________________ The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) said: "Surely I was sent to perfect the qualities of righteous character" [Musnad Ahmad, Muwatta Mâlik] Visit Ansâr Al-'Adl's personal page HERE. Excellent resources on Islam listed HERE.

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Ibn Syed LI Oldtimer Status: Offline Posts: 871 Reputation: 501 Rep Power: 21 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: USA Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Still want to vote? - - 05-01-2005 There is nothing that goes much against it in Islam. __________________ So Glorified is He and Exalted above all that they associate with Him, and in Whose Hands is the dominion of all things, and to Him you shall be returned. (Sura Ya-Seen 36:83)

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sonofadam Member Status: Offline Posts: 60 Reputation: 58 Rep Power: 22 Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Dar ul Harb Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Still want to vote? - - 05-02-2005 Good website backed with evidences rather than personal opinion and following of desires on the impermissibility of voting.