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Cool Re: What is a Misyar Marriage? - 07-01-2007

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ummah is suffering everywhere in the world, it is obvious that the imaan is weak in some places, but why all the foucus on arbas? when equally elsewhere muslims are in need of guidance, this is not so that am backing for arabs, but it is only fair if you look at the ummah as a whole
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It is because of 2 things;
  1. Islam has deep roots in Arab world [Started from there]
  2. Only Arabs are the richest in Muslim community and some of them are using their wealth for wrong doing.
It is my opinion which i have developed with my limited study of Muslim affairs through different media i.e. TV, Internet, Newspapers etc.

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Post Re: What is a Misyar Marriage? - 07-01-2007

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So if the woman willingly waived her rights...wat happens to Childrens rights in such marrgies?
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I think women who opt for this type of marriage already have kids, don't want more or are infertile, but would still like a halal relationship with a man. I didn't even know this kind of marriage existed. Sounds great for independant souls! ;)
Well, I do not think that it is like a woman is waiving any of her rights but she is accepting special situation of another Muslim (a poor man not able to find a wife in normal way)

Also you are right, it is all about Halal relationship.

   
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Default Re: What is a Misyar Marriage? - 07-01-2007

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It is because of 2 things;
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Islam started with Arabs? I thought only Orientalists propagated that myth.
   
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Post Re: What is a Misyar Marriage? - 07-01-2007

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What do you have to say about this ?


ya sure they're actually practising muta not misyar or in the name of misyar.. but who draws the limit! our beloved scholars???
and read this too!

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that is not misyar

what u posted is not even allowed in islam

who cares what about some "muslims" do. if its not allowed in islam then why ru posting what they r doing

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May I ask as to why you feel the need to answer a year old posts yet ignore my brand new one?
   
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Maybe he hasn't seen it yet?

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Cool Re: What is a Misyar Marriage? - 07-01-2007

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Therefore, if anyone seeks my opinion on this marriage, I must reply him saying: What do you mean by Misyar marriage. However, if I get an explanation that shows that in Misyar marriage, all the Islamic legal requirements are met, then the marriage is valid.

Those requirements are: an offer and acceptance from both parties; a specified dowry, according to the Qur'anic verse: "And give unto the women, (whom ye marry) free gift of their marriage portions" (An-Nisa': 4), and that the contract wins the consent of the guardian. Thereby, no one has the right to brandish it as unlawful.
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i m really confused
if it fulfilled all the Islamic legal requirements then why do people named a marriage in to Misyar marriage

thou i have a little idea about "Misyar"

but why do i need to know doest not it fulfilled all the Islamic legal requirements


As I understand, Misyar is a slang term used by such people. There is not such name in Sahria Terminology. A husband and wife may set any conditions for their marriage within the basic framework provided in Islam.

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Default Re: What is a Misyar Marriage? - 07-09-2007



Interesting, I had never heard of this before.

I don't understand why people made such a big deal of it.
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Default Re: What is a Misyar Marriage? - 09-22-2008

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I think women who opt for this type of marriage already have kids, don't want more or are infertile, but would still like a halal relationship with a man. I didn't even know this kind of marriage existed. Sounds great for independant souls! ;)


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Question Re: What is a Misyar Marriage? - 09-22-2008

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Therefore there must be another requirement that prohibits one marriage but allows another. The obvious one must be intention - these marriages are banned because their intent is wrong. Can I ask for an opinion on that?


Can any one tell what is in someone's heart. If some person have some hidden agenda then what can be doen.

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I had a friend who entered a 'Misyaar' marriage contract. The woman he married didn't take a maher, lived with her parents and was financially independent of him. Once he finished his education and got an income, he began to fulfill his duties just like any other marriage contract.

Had 'Misyaar' not been allowed (ie. the woman or man not allowed to waive certain rights bound by a marriage contract) then my friend would not have been able to marry and maybe this could have led him in the wrong direction.

Alhamdulilah there is an accommodation for people who would like to get married but do not have the financial means at the moment.

   
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Default Re: What is a Misyar Marriage? - 09-23-2008

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"This sometimes takes place when, for example, there are many women who, as they get older, find it increasingly difficult to marry. In this case a woman opts for a husband who is not able to fulfil the normal marital duties like financial maintenance, or spending adequate time with her, for example. She considers that marrying such a husband is better than remaining unmarried."


But how can be this legal. Its in Qur'an written clearly the men needs to treat his wive equally(the same treatment)and he needs to be the women protector, so he needs to ensure some financial maintenance to her too.
But didn't one of the Nabi SAWS's wives (Umm Salma, I think), waive her right to time spent with him in favour of Aishah RA because she was old? And didn't all the wives agree to give up their turns when the Nabi SAWS was in his last sickness? I think that if the wife agrees to give up her right of time or support, then the husband is not obligated.
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I had a friend who entered a 'Misyaar' marriage contract. The woman he married didn't take a maher, lived with her parents and was financially independent of him. Once he finished his education and got an income, he began to fulfill his duties just like any other marriage contract.

Had 'Misyaar' not been allowed (ie. the woman or man not allowed to waive certain rights bound by a marriage contract) then my friend would not have been able to marry and maybe this could have led him in the wrong direction.

Alhamdulilah there is an accommodation for people who would like to get married but do not have the financial means at the moment.



I believe it is the true spirit of Nikkah. Which is being achieved through Nikkah Al Misyar.

It is given in Quran ;

[ An'Noor: Ayat32 (24:32)::Marry those among you who are single, or the virtuous ones among yourselves, male or female: if they are in poverty, Allah will give them means out of His grace: for Allah encompasseth all, and He knoweth all things.]






Mean, Nikkah has least concerns with one person's financial well being. If s/he is poor the Allah will make them rich.

The case you presented here is exemplary for other Muslims and [non-Muslims too] who want to lead a life free of sins and immoralities.

Here it is necessary to elaborate that in present day life, it is much easier to have premarital or extramarital relations than having a bonafide wife. People are even resorting to CSW. But not marrying properly just because of the fear of the unknown or customs / society's restrictions.

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Post Re: What is a Misyar Marriage? - 09-24-2008

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But didn't one of the Nabi SAWS's wives (Umm Salma, I think), waive her right to time spent with him in favour of Aishah RA because she was old? And didn't all the wives agree to give up their turns when the Nabi SAWS was in his last sickness? I think that if the wife agrees to give up her right of time or support, then the husband is not obligated.
It is based on mutual understanding...

In Misyar, it is a bit complex to understand and explain.

In Islamic society a man is responsible for his family in all respects i.e. financial, social etc.

But it never means that a man must be richer [or elder] then his wife.

Due to a number of reasons a man can marry a woman richer then him,,,, or in other words a rich woman may marry with a man who has less financial fortune then herself.

Here one more thing need to be understood... a man can not refuse to give a gift [here in Pakistan it is commonly known as Mahar or Mehar] to his wife to be at the time of marriage [Nikkah] but it can be adjusted to his specific situation.

For example it is common to give jewelery of gold [of certain value] to wife at the time of marriage. But a man may give something else which he can afford to give. it can be anything from a flower, a lesson of Quran or a dress etc.

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