Your parents need to realize something:

In Islam, we give up ALOT of things that we would normally love to do for the sake of Allah. In return, he gives us what he owes us and 1000x the pleasure in paradise. Music may be prohibited here, but in paradise, it is rampant. The hoors in paradise sing all day long.

The same can be thought of other things. There are two reasons why something is prohibited- either it causes us a great deal of harm (smoking) or because Allah wants to test us (music).

Let's give it up in this life so we can get it in the next life.

Dear Fishman bro!

I'm afraid if i am trying to prove to everyone that whatever is prohibited in islam has a scientific explanation, it's not really going to work. The earlier the people get the message that islam is based on words of Allah and teaching of prophet (sallallahu alaihe wasallam), the better. Quote from Sura Ahzab Ayah 36....

It is not for a believer, man or woman, when Allâh and His Messenger have decreed a matter that they should have any option in their decision. And whoever disobeys Allâh and His Messenger, he has indeed strayed in a plain error.

I'm pretty sure this answer won't satisfy many inquisitive minds, but the prohibitions and allowances are primarily based on Allah and His Messenger's orders, not on scientific advantages or disadvantages.

You have shown great courage in your quest to embrace islam...MashAllah. May Allah help us all be guided on the straight path. Ameen

Dear Sis,



I really appreciate your concern and you are trying to help bro Fishman, like us all. I agree with you that to start off for a new muslim isn't easy and needs a lot of help with queries regarding Halal and Haram. I also agree that most of the things in Islam are very congruent with Modern Science. For satisfaction of heart it's all fine. What I won't endorse is something like "i left music because it has following disadvantages" and "i pray because it gives me good excercise and i fast because is good for my health". "i keep a beard because it has these advantages" etc.

Please i'm not condemning anyone's effort to help new muslims. I'm very sure you all are doing much better than i am.

I'd end on this ayah from sura baqara:

The Messenger (Muhammad ) believes in what has been sent down to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers. Each one believes in Allâh, His Angels, His Books, and His Messengers. They say, "We make no distinction between one another of His Messengers" - and they say, "We hear, and we obey. (We seek) Your Forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the return (of all)."

Jazakellaha

Greetings,
Sorry - I didn't mean to. Please accept my apologies. Let's discuss the issue rather than attacking people who hold different views from us.

It might have been harsh, but it's the truth. Having the word "Atheist" in my profile might seem harsh too. The Islamic prohibition on music is an issue I feel very strongly about. The fact is that there's no way to convince someone that all music is bad by using rational argument. Muslims don't believe music is bad because they have any valid, worldly reason for doing so - it's because of religious dogma, and all other arguments put forward in favour of the prohibition are just back-pedalling to try and justify that.

Peace

Once again, no one ever said anything about music being bad. Islam does NOT say music is bad for you. God has just banned us from listening to music as a mere test. In the Akhira (hereafter) we will be allowed to listen to all kinds of beautiful music and singing.

We're not trying to convince you that music is bad for the soul. In fact, it probably is good for you in some ways. That doesn't mean it isn't prohbitied by God as a means of testing the ones he loves- if they pass the test, Lo! They get the music forever in the herafter. If they fail the test, well then they don't get to listen to the music in the hereafter.

Do you want a pleasureable thing for 40 years or 4,000 years?

Are you suggesting that religious reasons aren't valid or that none of the 'wordly' reasons invoked by Muslims are valid? If its the latter, then i would agree that it is methodologicaly flawed for Muslims to attempt to convince non-muslims that there is empirical benefit in Islamic regulations like entering the washroom with the left foot, men not wearing silk, and so on. These are our practices that naturally follow from our acceptance of the Qur'an and the Sunnah.

Regards

Greetings,
The writer of this ludicrous article says exactly that.

Greetings Ansar,
I'm not suggesting that religious reasons aren't valid for those who believe in that particular religion. What I am saying is that religious reasons are not valid worldly reasons.

I'm also saying that I've never seen an argument about "why all music is bad" from a Muslim that is at all convincing. See, for example, the article I've linked to above. I don't know how anyone could take nonsense like that seriously for a split second.

Peace

czgibson,

Yes well they are just people trying to explain why something is bad isnt it? they are doing their best, but they dont have God's wisdom- God knows best why music was made illegal for us and that should be good enough for a muslim. We place our trust in Allah swt.

Let me get this straight. So you agree that Allah has outlawed Music, but then you say there is no evidence against it?
I really couldn't care less if you were part of an orchestra. To me, the laws of Allah are sacred. And I accept them without question. That is part of Iman.
But since you neither believe in Islam, or the existence of God, I suppose this of little concern to you.

sorry lol didnt hav time to read all those above posts.. thought i'd plug an input tho.

1. Nevermind what they think.

2. Not all music might have unislamic words, but most of it does. One neat thing about Islam is that it cuts of all ways to haram... Most people who get hooked onto techno eventually get hooked onto the songs as well.

3. Music is awesome at driving you into fantasy. Islam doesn't want you to live on fantasy and out of reality, it wants you to stick to reality and not get carried away by emotions.

4. The Hadith clearly says its haram and one day it will be regarded as halal (along with alchohol and fornication), no need for rationalism or philosophisism.

Whao sis tatasmiya...

mashallah good info.

The first poster should have seen the video on brother Ahmeds page.

See this is exactly what the video speaks about, but in the context of debating women's rights.

With most issues if you debate little matters like these because most people's view point changes alot they will jus state something then state something else.

But if you say to your parents, I believe it because G-d prophibited it, then you can open a door to introducing them to islam which is the greater dawa, for example:


Marge and Homer : Yo dude why you not listening to Music mannn..
Bart: Cos my religion says it has bad effects..
Marge and Homer: Oh what effects are those..

And the arguement goes off away from the message of G-d

But look at what smart Lisa would say,

Marge and Homer : Yo dude why you not listening to Music mannn..
Lisa: Because G-d prohibited it..
Marge and Homer: Hmmm, He did? Do you just obey Him?
Lisa: well once you find the straight path it is only logical you obey your Creator for dont you think the Creator knows better than His creation?
Marge and Homer: Hmm, I guess He does, but how do you know your on the straight path?
Lisa: Well......it is a long story..
Homer: runs to get donoughts..
Lisa: *tells the story* dawa given.


And so the dawa is given and the attention is diverted from the problem of listening to music to a talk about why Islam is the right path.

Isa Abdullah.. honestly.. whatever.. lol just be nice to your parents and tell them that our life is a test.. and Allah set the rules, and the rules can be found in quran and hadith.. and that's all you need to do. (And be really sweet and polite about it)


ps: lol bro zubair ur the best hehe, jazaks 4 that.

Greetings,
I said there was no worldly reason to believe that all music is bad.