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is the stupid woman flippin mad..so much for her being so educated...those who seek to change the truth succeed..but only in their own hearts.
   
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Pretty dumb, but i think the men who followed were even dumber.
   
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Pretty dumb, but i think the men who followed were even dumber.
lol...true...this woman s a bit whack isnt she?
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i dont no what to say!! im shocked!!
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poor guys, they attend another 2 of these jumuahs led by the doc and they risk having their hearts stamped.
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La hawla wa la quwwata illallaah! She should be ashamed of herself...wheres her hayaa gone. May Allah guide her.
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ALLAHU AKBAR .. What has the Ummah cum up2 .. i never knew it wud go to such an extent where the MEN would have to pray behind a WOMAN SubhanAllah .... n the most surprising thing is ..the Lady Doctor regarding being Knowledgeable is YET not so vey clever ..i mean she shud know that forget leadn salah in OPEN but even RECITING QURAN infront of a ghair Mehram in loud is nt even allowed . this is realy disappointing ... n wat Have the men cup up2 .. didnt they know .. they r nt allowed to listen to the Women Reciting .didnt they know a woman leding Salah is unappropriate ... SubhanAllah ... May Allah swt guide us all to the Straight path ... as years are pasing by we r becomin more JAHIL from ISLAM .. VEry SAD INDEED ..





* Posters .. please refrain from using wrds like "stupid" / "Whack"/ " Flippin mad" or any other wrds which doesnt suit a MUSLIM .. i m sure we all want the forum to b Clean from such wrds .. n b a good example for each other inshAllah .. JAZAKAHUMULLAHU KHAIRAN *

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i feel quite sad about this,
may allah subhana watha allah guide her and may he guide us all to the straight path inshallah, for allah alone is the guider.
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A Woman's Reflection on Leading Prayer

by Yasmin Mogahed

(Friday 25 March 2005)

http://world.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/13887/

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"Given my privilege as a woman, I only degrade myself by trying to be
something I'm not--and in all honesty--don't want to be: a man. As
women, we will never reach true liberation until we stop trying to
mimic men, and value the beauty in our own God-given
distinctiveness."

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On March 18, 2005 Amina Wadud led the first female-led Jumuah
(Friday) prayer. On that day women took a huge step towards being
more like men. But, did we come closer to actualizing our God-given
liberation?



I don't think so.



What we so often forget is that God has honored the woman by giving
her value in relation to God—not in relation to men. But as western
feminism erases God from the scene, there is no standard left—but
men. As a result the western feminist is forced to find her value in
relation to a man. And in so doing she has accepted a faulty
assumption. She has accepted that man is the standard, and thus a
woman can never be a full human being until she becomes just like a
man—the standard.



When a man cut his hair short, she wanted to cut her hair short. When
a man joined the army, she wanted to join the army. She wanted these
things for no other reason than because the "standard" had it.



What she didn't recognize was that God dignifies both men and women
in their distinctiveness--not their sameness. And on March 18, Muslim
women made the very same mistake.



For 1400 years there has been a consensus of the scholars that men
are to lead prayer. As a Muslim woman, why does this matter? The one
who leads prayer is not spiritually superior in any way. Something is
not better just because a man does it. And leading prayer is not
better, just because it's leading. Had it been the role of women or
had it been more divine, why wouldn't the Prophet have asked Ayesha
or Khadija, or Fatima—the greatest women of all time—to lead? These
women were promised heaven—and yet they never lead prayer.

But now for the first time in 1400 years, we look at a man leading
prayer and we think, "That's not fair." We think so although God has
given no special privilege to the one who leads. The imam is no
higher in the eyes of God than the one who prays behind.



On the other hand, only a woman can be a mother. And God has given
special privilege to a mother. The Prophet taught us that heaven lies
at the feet of mothers. But no matter what a man does he can never be
a mother. So why is that not unfair?



When asked who is most deserving of our kind treatment? The Prophet
replied `your mother' three times before saying `your father' only
once. Isn't that sexist? No matter what a man does he will never be
able to have the status of a mother.



And yet even when God honors us with something uniquely feminine, we
are too busy trying to find our worth in reference to men, to value
it—or even notice. We too have accepted men as the standard; so
anything uniquely feminine is, by definition, inferior. Being
sensitive is an insult, becoming a mother—a degradation. In the
battle between stoic rationality (considered masculine) and self-less
compassion (considered feminine), rationality reigns supreme.



As soon as we accept that everything a man has and does is better,
all that follows is just a knee jerk reaction: if men have it—we want
it too. If men pray in the front rows, we assume this is better, so
we want to pray in the front rows too. If men lead prayer, we assume
the imam is closer to God, so we want to lead prayer too. Somewhere
along the line we've accepted the notion that having a position of
worldly leadership is some indication of one's position with God.



A Muslim woman does not need to degrade herself in this way. She has
God as a standard. She has God to give her value; she doesn't need a
man.



In fact, in our crusade to follow men, we, as women, never even
stopped to examine the possibility that what we have is better for
us. In some cases we even gave up what was higher only to be like
men.



Fifty years ago, society told us that men were superior because they
left the home to work in factories. We were mothers. And yet, we were
told that it was women's liberation to abandon the raising of another
human being in order to work on a machine. We accepted that working
in a factory was superior to raising the foundation of society—just
because a man did it.



Then after working, we were expected to be superhuman—the perfect
mother, the perfect wife, the perfect homemaker—and have the perfect
career. And while there is nothing wrong, by definition, with a woman
having a career, we soon came to realize what we had sacrificed by
blindly mimicking men. We watched as our children became strangers
and soon recognized the privilege we'd given up.



And so only now—given the choice—women in the West are choosing to
stay home to raise their children. According to the United States
Department of Agriculture, only 31 percent of mothers with babies,
and 18 percent of mothers with two or more children, are working full-
time. And of those working mothers, a survey conducted by Parenting
Magazine in 2000, found that 93% of them say they would rather be
home with their kids, but are compelled to work due to 'financial
obligations'. These `obligations' are imposed on women by the gender
sameness of the modern West, and removed from women by the gender
distinctiveness of Islam.



It took women in the West almost a century of experimentation to
realize a privilege given to Muslim women 1400 years ago.



Given my privilege as a woman, I only degrade myself by trying to be
something I'm not--and in all honesty--don't want to be: a man. As
women, we will never reach true liberation until we stop trying to
mimic men, and value the beauty in our own God-given distinctiveness.



If given a choice between stoic justice and compassion, I choose
compassion. And if given a choice between worldly leadership and
heaven at my feet—I choose heaven.
   
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Woowwww...its sooo good...it states everything in my mind....very much true, once femals have enough slef-confidence and start having high self-esteem, this "gender equality" issue will be resolved. I remember an American writer sayin, very wise words, instead of mimicin men, femals should ask fo their real rights in the propfessional world, which are fewer working hours, since she is a mother, maternity leave, and higher payment. I will search for that articla, its a good one.
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