heya duskiness... thanks for the invite but i think the reasons stated above explainwhy we can't join in. Put simply, christmas is a credo.

Not at all, it was a command of Allah to Ibrahim and Ismael, and then when the message was corrupted people emssed it up, and when Muhammad PBUH came back to makkah he made sure that paganism wasn't going to mess up hajj in any way so he converted the idols that filled the ka'bah into dust.

so its nothing at all to do with paganism, Ibrahim and Ismael where monotheists and the effort they put into building the ka'3bah and doing pilgramage was because it was an order from Allah SWT.


take care all the best


ps: Panatella, lol i think cheese is just being normal.. i mean that's a stock response you expect from a Muslim.. Allah has something even stronger to say to people like that in the Quran, read for urself

I've been to Christmas, Deepavali, Chinese New Year feasts every year...just to eat and greet them.

and receive a lot of angpau i'm sure...

maybe u should 'sadaqah' to me some of it.

last Chinese New Year my boss gave me RM300 ang pow!!! During Hari Raya he gave me RM200 duit raya!!!

well then....don't forget to put on my hand next to my posts.

I am an athiest and believe there is no Allah

I want to offer my hand in friendship in mid December with a an invitation to social gathering of friends at my house.

I have used the word "christmas" in my invitation and therefore you reject the hand of friendship.

Can Muslims ever find non-muslim friends in a non-muslim country?

they are doing what their religion tells. nothing doing with friendship. i dun care if they don't come and sip or munch something at my flat in x mas eve. we can still live 2gether without bothering tha'.

lol joe you're an athiest, that's the point. So don't even bother trying to get your head around advanced concepts when you still havnt understood the simple stuff...


ps: i agree wtih duke.

Will there be drinking at this gathering? Will there be free mixing between sexes? Will the food be halal or not?

A smart athiest would invite a Muslim to a gathering they are likely to attend.

I suggest you sit down before you read this following, it might be a huge shock to you: I have non-muslim friends and i live in a non-muslim country. Did i have to give up my beliefs to do so? NO!

The concept is so simple you cannot see it

You are invited to my house for a little celebration in June

You are invited to my house for a little Christmas celebration December.

BOTH CELEBRATIONS ARE EXACTLY THE SAME.

THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE.

BOTH INVOLVE FOOD AND TALKING.

Tell why you refuse the hand of friendship in December??????

Is blind hatred the real reason?

No. The point is we do not celebrate christmas! Why is that so hard to understand?

what's in june? food and talking is not an essential part. x mas without that is x mas.

no its not blind hatred. our Prophet told us that our eids are eid ul fitr and eid ul adha. eid-festival/celebration

theres no if but why where when how what.

^^ I agree, and it's not blind hatred because the reasons are mentioned in the Quran, and i gave u a reference some where up the top.

Yes but you are not forced to drink.

You could show people the strengths of Islam by not drinking. Instead you won’t be there.



Of course. Its all in one room, like being on a bus. What is your problem?



Some is and some is not. You are not forced to eat. You could show people the strengths of Islam by not eating food that is against youe belief. Instead you won’t be there.



Do you celebrate December the 18th?

How about a social gathering in a month starting with the letter “D” ??

How do Muslims in Melbourne socialise with non-muslims in December without the word “Christmas” being involved?



Because of this: