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    How compulsory is istinja? I would like to know because my dad wants to stop me from doing it because of the mess, and says that you can only do it with 'primitve' Middle-Eastern toilets? But I've read that most people in the UK use a bottle of water.



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    The Mess? What mess? If you do Istinja properly there is of course no mess.........
    And Istinja is absolutely necessary. Definitely. A Muslim has to cleanse himself properly whenever he leaves the bathroom. If water is not available then tissue can be used.....However they should be used an odd number of times. For example not two wipes, but 3 etc.
    But even though it's permissable to use tissue etc. this should only be resorted to if there's no water available.
    Rasulullah was once passing by two graves and he said to his companions " Verily the inhabitants of these graves are being tortured, and they are not being tortured for Major [things] as for one of them, he did not used to cleanse himself properly from his urine......"

    Perhaps you should find a vessel more suitable for it, because it's definitely not messy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawaddah View Post
    The Mess? What mess? If you do Istinja properly there is of course no mess.........
    And Istinja is absolutely necessary. Definitely. A Muslim has to cleanse himself properly whenever he leaves the bathroom. If water is not available then tissue can be used.....However they should be used an odd number of times. For example not two wipes, but 3 etc.
    But even though it's permissable to use tissue etc. this should only be resorted to if there's no water available.
    Rasulullah was once passing by two graves and he said to his companions " Verily the inhabitants of these graves are being tortured, and they are not being tortured for Major [things] as for one of them, he did not used to cleanse himself properly from his urine......"

    Perhaps you should find a vessel more suitable for it, because it's definitely not messy.

    Are you supposed to do it after defecating as well, not just urinating? Because my dad's annoyed about the defficating one, saying that I would need a bidet or a 'primitive' toilet.
    My dad says that I'm being daft, but that he will discuss it with my mum when she returns.

    When I made istinja, it made no mess, but I don't know how well I did it, since it was my first time.

    Everytime you do wudhu you do Istinja or after using the toilet, you shoould use a 'lota'
    What's a lota? If I don't have one, I don't know where to get one from.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman View Post

    Are you supposed to do it after defecating as well, not just urinating? Because my dad's annoyed about the defficating one, saying that I would need a bidet or a 'primitive' toilet.
    My dad says that I'm being daft, but that he will discuss it with my mum when she returns.

    When I made istinja, it made no mess, but I don't know how well I did it, since it was my first time.


    What's a lota? If I don't have one, I don't know where to get one from.
    Everytime one goes to the toilet to releive himself he has to do istinja and not only from urine.
    Yeah since it's the first time it's hard I guess, but dont worry! you'll get used to it Insha'allah.....
    Hopefully as you get used to it your dad will quit complaining.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaNgErOuS MiNdS View Post
    Everytime you do wudhu you do Istinja or after using the toilet, you shoould use a 'lota'
    Everytime you do wudhu' you do istinja? What exactly do you mean? Istinja is when you cleanse yourself after using the toilet................not making wudhu'

    Sorry but I might be misunderstanding you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawaddah View Post
    Everytime you do wudhu' you do istinja? What exactly do you mean? Istinja is when you cleanse yourself after using the toilet................not making wudhu'

    Sorry but I might be misunderstanding you?
    I mean before you do wudhu you do istinja as it is a part of it, normally a person does wudhu when they have broken it so they do both istinja and wudhu.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman View Post

    How compulsory is istinja?
    very important, if you dont do it properly your salah will not be acepted


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishman View Post


    What's a lota? If I don't have one, I don't know where to get one from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mawaddah View Post
    Everytime you do wudhu' you do istinja? What exactly do you mean? Istinja is when you cleanse yourself after using the toilet................not making wudhu'

    Sorry but I might be misunderstanding you?

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    u dnt need to use one of those u can use anything but its easier to use a jug. n it dnt make a mess, if it does that means ur not doing it right.

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    Do anyone of you get splashback, meaning when you do istinja with water in a lota, water splash back from the pan onto your body. how do you deal with that problem

    Would love to know the answer to that,as that is a recurring problem with me

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    dont have the lota so far away lol


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    maybe this would help you...

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    Personal Hygiene in Islam

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    The Prophet (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) said that ‘cleanliness if part of faith’. So we must take care to be well-groomed, keeping our bodies and clothing clean, especially at times of worship.


    When visiting the toilet

    Regardless of age, we should all take care that our underwear and private parts remain as clean as possible. Underpants, panties and socks should be changed daily in order to avoid unpleasant odours. Females may use pantiliners if necessary. If urine happens to splatter onto your clothing, you should wash it off until no colour or smell remains.

    The Prophet Muhammad (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) advised that we should clean ourselves thoroughly after using the toilet. This is called istinja'.

    The proper way to make istinja' is to remove all traces of najasa (filth) - urine or faeces with something clean and dry, such as toilet paper. If you are in the countryside and paper tissues are not available, you may use smooth, clean stones or dried clay instead. In At-Tirmidhi it is mentioned not to use bones or dung when performing istinja.

    Use your left hand, and wipe your private parts until no trace of impurities can be seen on the toilet paper. It is sunnah to do this an odd number of times. Then clean your private parts with water. Many Muslim homes have special spray hoses installed next to the toilet, or water jugs for this purpose.


    After cleaning with water, it is best to dry off again with toilet paper. This is especially recommended for women and girls, in order to prevent infections that occur if your underwear remains damp. For this reason, women and girls should also be careful to wipe from front to back, rather than from back to front. It is also recommended to wear loose, cotton underwear which ‘breathes’ and dries more quickly than panties made from man-made materials such as nylon or polyester.

    Take care not to be facing the direction of the Qibla, or with the back towards the Qibla when relieving yourself, and remember that it is sunnah to squat down when doing do.

    Wash your hands after using the toilet, taking care that no unpleasant odour remains under or around your fingernails. Finally, it is sunnah to make wudu after using the toilet, so that you are always prepared for prayer and other acts of worship.

    Do not relieve oneself at riverbanks, roads and shady places where people walk or rest, or stagnant water (water that does not flow).
    [Bukhari and Abu Dawud]

    It is recommended to enter the bathroom with the left foot, and to leave it with the right foot; contrary to the way you enter the masjid. It is recommended (sunnah) to enter the masjid with the right foot first, and to leave it with the left foot.
    Also, before entering for one to seek refuge in Allah from Shaitan, and say the relevant du'a (supplicaions) when entering and exiting the toilet.



    Removing Unnecessary Body Hair

    The hair that grows under your arms and around your private parts can also be a source of bad odours, because hair, combined with darkness and moisture, provides and ideal environment for bacteria to grow. When this hair is removed, the body odour is reduced and there is less chance of catching troublesome irritants, such as ‘jock itch’ or body lice. It is also easier to keep the area clean.

    The Prophet Muhammad (salAllahu alayhi wasalam) said;

    Five practices are characteristic of the fitra (the natural state, or tradition of the prophets): circumcision, shaving the pubic hair, cutting the moustache short, clipping the nails, and removing the hair of the armpits.
    [Sahih al-Bukhari]

    It is permissible to remove the hair under your armpits and your pubic hair by any method that you do not find too difficult or painful: plucking, shaving, cutting it short, using wax treatments, ‘strip’ hair removers, or with any number of special depilatory creams and ointments that are available on the market for this purpose.
    This hair should be removed at least once every forty days, or whenever it grows long.

    It is also a good idea to use underarm deodorant, especially before participating in sports or going to the school or mosque, so that other people will not be offended by one’s body odour.

    It is the custom for girls and women in some countries to shave their legs as well, or to remove all of the hair from their arms and legs with ‘strip’ hair removers or depilatory creams. This is mubah – neither recommended in Islam nor forbidden.

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    Can you just use babywipes?


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    ^now that would be expensive!



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    Quote Originally Posted by cheese View Post


    ^now that would be expensive!
    Babywipes expensive? They are cheap in the USA. Seems like an easier way to do this. By the way, I never knew there were specific Islamic rules on how to wipe yourself. Something else learned.


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    Quote Originally Posted by searchingsoul View Post
    Babywipes expensive? They are cheap in the USA. Seems like an easier way to do this. By the way, I never knew there were specific Islamic rules on how to wipe yourself. Something else learned.
    I think it's still not as clean as using water though.


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    Quote Originally Posted by searchingsoul View Post
    Babywipes expensive? They are cheap in the USA. Seems like an easier way to do this. By the way, I never knew there were specific Islamic rules on how to wipe yourself. Something else learned.
    In Islam...there are specific rules for everything...(not really rules but tips and the correct way to do it).

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    Quote Originally Posted by searchingsoul View Post
    Babywipes expensive? They are cheap in the USA. Seems like an easier way to do this. By the way, I never knew there were specific Islamic rules on how to wipe yourself. Something else learned.


    the great thing about Islam is the way it emcompasses all aspects of ones life...

    p.s. imagine buying baby wipes in bulk and using them every time a family member uses the bathroom... it cant be cheaper than normal tissue paper can it? not to mention the water is cheap too, straight from the tap.



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    Quote Originally Posted by cheese View Post


    the great thing about Islam is the way it emcompasses all aspects of ones life...

    p.s. imagine buying baby wipes in bulk and using them every time a family member uses the bathroom... it cant be cheaper than normal tissue paper can it? not to mention the water is cheap too, straight from the tap.
    I use them after toilet paper. As far as the males in my family, I doubt that they could care less if their butts were clean. So a lot aren't used.


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