^ True!

i don't know which company would want to hire any muslim women who wears jilbab or abaya and niqaab..maybe thats happened but if you have no income coming in then you should consider taking off your clothes or just wearing hijaab to get the job.

Sister in all honestly i have seen sisters working in jilbaabs and hijabs. Hey ive even seen them in niqaab, but only at the harmains in mecca and medina. But they should not at anygiven time sacrifice their modesty. As longs as what they wear is modest. And when i mean modest, i mean not attarcting attention of the opposite sex in temrs of design, colour, fitting etc etc.

my sister wears the aybaya and she works as a teacher i dont work im still in school but i wear the jilbab

Salam sister. You may want to read my post. Not once did i mention that wearing other than the jilbab or abaya is not modest. I said that if sister, and im talking about sister who hold firm to wearing the jilbab or abaya are in the situation which you are talking about then they should opt for someting which is NOT the jilbab but instead something which is MODEST. Now when you dont have a simple cloth which covers one from the head to the toe, it can be of either tow things modest or not modest. And the point here is form muslim women to wear something other than the jilbab which is modest.

If you have a personal issue or have come to a conclusion that thats fine sister, but then you go against what you say, as to regards of sisters who may hold the opposite view to you. They may feel as strong as you when it comes to the subject of jilbab and niqab, which is why they will at whatever cost not compromise.

You have to remember there are two views on the subject. Oe which you hold and the other which someone else holds. Now to say one is wrong is to completely reject anothers struggle.

And the point about cultural manifestation, so what is your point? its a cultural thing which has been enforced into Islam. See how you sound. On one point you say its a cultural manifestaion to wear jilbab and on the other you say your anti-jilbab, niqaab, albaya.

Ok, sister. You dont have to sound so against Arabs. Just remember that there are people who hold an opposing view to yours which is just as well documented with evdience from the quran and hadith. Now im not saying one is wrong and the other is right. Im saying if one feels conviction in their heart that what they are doing is right and that they are in persuit of Allahs pleasure, let them be, dont put them down. We are muslims, and as muslims we should help one aonther to the pleasure of Allah.

Now Alhamdullilah as you put your point across and hold firm to you belief on such a subject, if someone from the other side of the fense came and said what you said in the way you said it, you would be sure to here these people being called names such as "they think there better because they wear jilbab" etc etc etc. And then an imagineay barrier will be formed, which would cause one another to look down on each other.

The point i would like to conclude on is that from a sharia prespective the two would not be wrong. So why try to become wrong by making claims such as that its not from islam to wear jilbab or niqab? Like i said you have to remeber that there are always two sides in an opposing subject, and in some cases according to sharia, they can both be accpeted, which is what is often refferd to as difference of opinion in fiqh. And this can only be brought about if both sides have documented material which is sourced from the quran and hadith. And in this case the opposing side which you say is not from Islam does have doceumnetd material.

Now im not trying to get into a matter of which sside is right and which side is wrong, because like i said not one of them can be as far as i may comment be deemed wrong according to the sharia view of jilbab and hijab. But what i can seem to figure out is that why in the 21st century we as muslims cant not stick together when our bretherens are being opressed and killed, our lands are further divided, our muajhideen and ulema being locked up and the worship of Allah is only being confined to the masjds. Its pretty clear that this is a much bigger issue than choosing between wearing a jilbab and wearing modest clothing other than the Jilab which still fulfils the criteria.

Asalamualikum Sister.

Somehow i can't find my posts on this thread..anyways i didnt intend any harm..im not anti-arab..i just stated a fact..the abaya and jilbab and niqaab is the cultural dress of many arab/iranian/ afghani women..if you look at pakistani women their traditional dress is the shalwar kameez, the african women also have their own style of modest dress ie the buba (shirt) and the skirt /wrap around..richly decorated and handwoven, similarly malay/indonesian women also have their own clothes..the baju kuroung/baju kebaya which is absolutely beautiful..but somehow many muslims think the only 'modest' dress out there is the abaya and the jilbab and niqaab!! and that its the only dress sanctioned by Allah..does Allah want us to all wear the same clothes? with no patterns or designs..because some people say thats 'haraam'? subhanallah i hope you got my point brother...and once again thanks for your reply.