Who are the Ya'jooj and Ma'jooj? - Page 9

**aamirsaab** · **Re: Yajuj wa Ma'juj (Gog and Magog) -** 02-13-2007

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Originally Posted by shible

So shall i delete the link by editing it . Since i never saw a thread on this topic in a while.

Tell me Mod wat shall i do and i shall move accordingly

You could delete the link but it won't matter much as this thread will probably get merged with the other one (I don't have power over this section, so cannot carry out the action)

Alternatively, you could just continue your posts on the other one (since both topics are the same) and this one will get deleted by another mod.

Isaac · **Re: Yajuj wa Ma'juj (Gog and Magog) -** 02-13-2007

There is an excellent 2 part lecture by Sheikh Ahmad Ali on Gog and Magog. A very very interesting and well explained lecture.

The lecture can be downloaded from:

http://is.aswatalislam.net/DisplayFi...Name=Ahmed_Ali

Isaac · **Re: Who are the Ya'jooj and Ma'jooj? -** 02-13-2007

There is an excellent 2 part lecture by Sheikh Ahmad Ali on Gog and Magog. A very very interesting and well explained lecture.

The lecture can be downloaded from:

http://is.aswatalislam.net/DisplayFi...me=Ahmed_Al i

**Abu Sayyad** · 01:27 AM

Very interesting quotes:

Ibn Jarir Tabari and Ibn Kathir have recorded the event, and Yaqut al-Hamawi has mentioned it in his Mujam-ul-Buldan that:

When after the conquest of Azerbaijan, Umar sent Suraqah bin `Amr, in 22 A.H. (643CE) on an expedition to Derbent, the latter appointed `Abdur Rahman bin Rabi`ah as the chief of his vanguard. When 'Abdur Rehman entered Armenia, the ruler Shehrbaz surrendered without fighting. Then when `Abdur Rehman wanted to advance towards Derbent, Shehrbaz informed him that he had already gathered full information about the wall built by Dhul-Qarnain, through a man, who could supply all the necessary details and then the man was actually presented before `Abdur Rehman.

(Tabari, Vol. III, pp. 235-239; Al-Bidayah wan-Nihayah, Vol. VII, pp. 122-125, and Mu'jam-ul-Buldan, under Bab-ul-Abwab: Derbent).

Two hundred years later, the Abbasid Caliph Al-Wathiq despatched a party of 50 men under Sallam-ul-Tarjuman to study the wall of Dhul-Qarnain, whose observations have been recorded in great detail by Yaqut al-Hamawi in Mu jam-ul-Buldan and by Ibn Kathir in Al-Bidayah. They write:

This expedition reached Samarrah from where they reached Tbilisi and then through As-Sarir and Al-Lan, they reached Filanshah, from where they entered the Caspian territory. From there they arrived at Derbent and saw the wall.

(Al-Bidayah Vol. II, p. 111, Vol. VII, pp. 122-125; Mu jam-ul-Buldan: under Bab-ul-Abwab)

Here is a picture of the wall at Derbent:

But at the same time let us remember that this is a matter of the Unseen where the complete knowledge of this is only with Allaah.

Rose_Ice · **Re: Who are the Ya'jooj and Ma'jooj? -** 04-19-2007

There is an excellent book related to this topic: Jerusalem in the Quran

It can be downloaded from here in PDF format: http://www.imranhosein.org/content/view/37/

Read chapter 10 of Part One in particular called Gog and Magog in the Qur\'an and Hadith\'
(starts on page 75)

fiamanillah

Muslim Knight · **Re: Who are the Ya'jooj and Ma'jooj? -** 04-19-2007

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Originally Posted by Fishman

Actually, the hadith says that they are decendants of Adaam (peace be upon him), not neccessarily inhabitants of the Earth. I think they are people who went through some sort of wormhole, how else are you supposed to trap 70 billion people in a remote area of central Asia?

They're essentially of human stock, but very bad one that has natural propensity for bloodshed and destruction.

70 billion is a lot, no, brother? Total number of people living on planet Earth is only around 6 billions.

Fishman · **Re: Who are the Ya'jooj and Ma'jooj? -** 04-19-2007

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Originally Posted by Muslim Knight

They're essentially of human stock, but very bad one that has natural propensity for bloodshed and destruction.

70 billion is a lot, no, brother? Total number of people living on planet Earth is only around 6 billions.

The number of people who have ever lived on Earth is 60 billion or something, according to Bill Bryson.

Abdul-Raouf · **Re: Who are the Ya'jooj and Ma'jooj? -** 09-04-2007

I think the wall is also invisible...u can find their location.. i have heard that the wall built by King Dhulqaurnain... is in Europe.. near the country Georgia.. near Turkey...

ONLY ALLAH'TALA KNOWS BEST....

syilla · **Re: Who are the Ya'jooj and Ma'jooj? -** 09-04-2007

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Originally Posted by syilla

maybe it is here?????

Maybe it is in caucasus mountains

Quote:

The Caucasus Mountains are a mountain system in Eurasia between the Black and the Caspian sea in the Caucasus region.

The Caucasus Mountains are made up of two separate mountain systems:
the Greater Caucasus Mountain Range and
the Lesser Caucasus Mountains.

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Isaac LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 469 Reputation: 361 Rep Power: 20 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Yajuj wa Ma'juj (Gog and Magog) - 02-13-2007 There is an excellent 2 part lecture by Sheikh Ahmad Ali on Gog and Magog. A very very interesting and well explained lecture. The lecture can be downloaded from: http://is.aswatalislam.net/DisplayFi...Name=Ahmed_Ali

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Isaac LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 469 Reputation: 361 Rep Power: 20 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: London Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Who are the Ya'jooj and Ma'jooj? - 02-13-2007 There is an excellent 2 part lecture by Sheikh Ahmad Ali on Gog and Magog. A very very interesting and well explained lecture. The lecture can be downloaded from: http://is.aswatalislam.net/DisplayFi...me=Ahmed_Al i

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Abu Sayyad *iwannagetmarried.com* Status: Offline Posts: 6,799 Reputation: 49319 Rep Power: 90 Join Date: Mar 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Who are the Ya'jooj and Ma'jooj? - 04-19-2007 Very interesting quotes: Ibn Jarir Tabari and Ibn Kathir have recorded the event, and Yaqut al-Hamawi has mentioned it in his Mujam-ul-Buldan that: When after the conquest of Azerbaijan, Umar sent Suraqah bin `Amr, in 22 A.H. (643CE) on an expedition to Derbent, the latter appointed `Abdur Rahman bin Rabi`ah as the chief of his vanguard. When 'Abdur Rehman entered Armenia, the ruler Shehrbaz surrendered without fighting. Then when `Abdur Rehman wanted to advance towards Derbent, Shehrbaz informed him that he had already gathered full information about the wall built by Dhul-Qarnain, through a man, who could supply all the necessary details and then the man was actually presented before `Abdur Rehman. (Tabari, Vol. III, pp. 235-239; Al-Bidayah wan-Nihayah, Vol. VII, pp. 122-125, and Mu'jam-ul-Buldan, under Bab-ul-Abwab: Derbent). Two hundred years later, the Abbasid Caliph Al-Wathiq despatched a party of 50 men under Sallam-ul-Tarjuman to study the wall of Dhul-Qarnain, whose observations have been recorded in great detail by Yaqut al-Hamawi in Mu jam-ul-Buldan and by Ibn Kathir in Al-Bidayah. They write: This expedition reached Samarrah from where they reached Tbilisi and then through As-Sarir and Al-Lan, they reached Filanshah, from where they entered the Caspian territory. From there they arrived at Derbent and saw the wall. (Al-Bidayah Vol. II, p. 111, Vol. VII, pp. 122-125; Mu jam-ul-Buldan: under Bab-ul-Abwab) Here is a picture of the wall at Derbent: But at the same time let us remember that this is a matter of the Unseen where the complete knowledge of this is only with Allaah. __________________ هَلْ جَزَاء الْإِحْسَانِ إِلَّا الْإِحْسَانُ؟ Is there any reward for good other than good? [ar-Rahman: 60] "However, keep in mind that you must instruct the people with kindness and mercy. Don’t take this answer and shove it in their faces.* Be kind, gentle and patient." - Imam Suhaib Webb, advising after giving an answer. O Allah, Lord of Jibril, Mika'il and Israfil, Creator of the heavens and the earth, Knower of the unseen and the seen, You will judge between Your servants concerning that wherein they differ. Guide me with regard to that wherein there is dispute concerning the truth by Your leave, for You guide whomsoever You will to the straight path. Oh Allah, I seek refuge in You lest I misguide others, or I am misguided by others, lest I cause others to err or I am caused to err, lest I abuse others or be abused, and lest I behave foolishly or meet with the foolishness of others. Last edited by Abu Sayyad; 04-19-2007 at 01:27 AM.*

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Rose_Ice ...sheep...S Status: Offline Posts: 2,830 Reputation: 10499 Rep Power: 32 Join Date: Mar 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Who are the Ya'jooj and Ma'jooj? - 04-19-2007 There is an excellent book related to this topic: Jerusalem in the Quran It can be downloaded from here in PDF format: http://www.imranhosein.org/content/view/37/ Read chapter 10 of Part One in particular called Gog and Magog in the Qur\'an and Hadith\' (starts on page 75) fiamanillah __________________ tweet tweet

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Abdul-Raouf Status: Offline Posts: 1,762 Reputation: 5672 Rep Power: 23 Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Chennai, India Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Who are the Ya'jooj and Ma'jooj? - 09-04-2007 I think the wall is also invisible...u can find their location.. i have heard that the wall built by King Dhulqaurnain... is in Europe.. near the country Georgia.. near Turkey... ONLY ALLAH'TALA KNOWS BEST.... __________________ VISIT http://www.islamic-avatars.blogspot.com/ http://www.sahaba.net/