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      Kaza Namaz


      Sorry I don't know if i've posted in the right section, didn't know where else to post it.

      How do you pray Kaza Namaz? Everyone tells me different and I get confused.
      Say if go to work and I miss Fajr, Zuhr, Asr and Maghrib and I want to pray kaza when I get back? How do I do it and is it before or after Isha namaz?

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      Re: Kaza Namaz


      Firstly work can't be an excuse to miss namaz.
      Secondly, it is better to pray the kaza before the isha namaz.
      Kaza Namaz



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      Firstly whats kaza namaz :confused:
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      Missed prayers.
      Kaza Namaz



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      Re: Kaza Namaz


      Quote Originally Posted by FBI View Post


      Firstly whats kaza namaz :confused:


      It means late prayer if you missed a prayer and you would like to make it up.

      I remember reading a Hadith where it states that if you miss a prayer you should make it up right away.

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      It is not permissible for a Muslim man or woman to delay an obligatory prayer beyond the proper time, rather every accountable Muslim man and woman is obliged to perform the prayers on time as much as they can.

      Work is not an excuse for delaying prayer, neither is impurity on clothes or clothes being dirty. None of these are acceptable excuses.
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      I found some links, insha'Allah, they are helpful.


      http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=216...ssed%20prayers

      http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=136...ssed%20prayers

      http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=208...ssed%20prayers

      http://islamqa.com/index.php?ref=207...ssed%20prayers
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      Re: Kaza Namaz


      ^ So what do you suggest I do? I can't exactly leave my job, I can't pray at work as there is no facilities to do that. I will be homeless in a month or two, i'm very depressed as it is, believe it or not, leaving my job will put me in a life or death situation!

      At least I go home and try to catch up on prayers, or do you think it's better I don't pray at all? Or pray only the namaz that I can pray when I get home, which is Isha? laying:

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      salamualikum.
      sack da job dudette.
      ma'assalama

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      do you think it's better I don't pray at all? Or pray only the namaz that I can pray when I get home, which is Isha?
      Something is better than nothing. For now, continue with the kaza namaz before isha, and at the same time, try to convince the people at your work place to allow you to pray your prayers. Use your weapon: Duas. And do Istighfar abundantly.
      Kaza Namaz



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      Re: Kaza Namaz


      Is your job more important then obeying Allah swt? Is your job more important to you then being in the fire of hell.

      If you leave something for the sake of Allah swt he will grant you some thing else which may even be better.

      Every place on earth can be used for a place of worship. Take a prayer mat, do your wudhu in the toilet sink and pray in the coridoor or outside in the car park or somewhere, Im sure theres a yard of space for u to read ur salah.

      Theres no obedience to the creation wen its in disobedience to the creator.

      Missing ur salah is an act of kufr.

      Do you have so little faith in Allah swt that you think hell make u homeless?

      no ones asking you to leave your job, just take out five mins to pray and obey ur lord.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Daffodil View Post
      Is your job more important then obeying Allah swt? Is your job more important to you then being in the fire of hell.

      If you leave something for the sake of Allah swt he will grant you some thing else which may even be better.

      Every place on earth can be used for a place of worship. Take a prayer mat, do your wudhu in the toilet sink and pray in the coridoor or outside in the car park or somewhere, Im sure theres a yard of space for u to read ur salah.

      Theres no obedience to the creation wen its in disobedience to the creator.

      Missing ur salah is an act of kufr.

      Do you have so little faith in Allah swt that you think hell make u homeless?

      no ones asking you to leave your job, just take out five mins to pray and obey ur lord.
      salamualikum.
      very true indeed, remember we will be questioned infront of our lord so 'fear none but allah suabhnwatallah' if work is more important then what are you going to do in the next Dunya 'Akhira' ?

      if there's no space for u to pray then easy sack the job.
      Ma'assalama

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      Easier said than done for all you people, you have no idea what i'm going through, absolutely no idea!!!

      Your not in my situation, your not going through what i'm going through, so for you to say so easily, 'sack the job' is very insensitive.

      Ok yes Allah (swt) should come before everything and everyone, but even in this life, we have to take care of ourselves, we can't give up everything.

      I can pray as much as I can, but that won't guarantee that I won't be homeless. I have all faith in Allah, but we also have to rely on ourselves to help ourselves, I can't just pray and sit back waiting for my life to lead itself.
      We have to help ourselves and also rely on ourselves to do the best we can and Allah guides us along the way.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tanya Khan View Post
      ^ So what do you suggest I do? I can't exactly leave my job, I can't pray at work as there is no facilities to do that. I will be homeless in a month or two, i'm very depressed as it is, believe it or not, leaving my job will put me in a life or death situation!

      At least I go home and try to catch up on prayers, or do you think it's better I don't pray at all? Or pray only the namaz that I can pray when I get home, which is Isha? laying:


      Please, if I offended you then forgive me, it was never my intention. I didn't know too much about your situation. Is there really no place in your work to pray? Anywhere would be fine. Just 5-10 minutes, when you've got break or lunch time, you can go and pray, insha'Allah. Or you could ask your boss for a place to pray, for just a few minutes.


      Quote Originally Posted by IslamInside View Post
      Something is better than nothing. For now, continue with the kaza namaz before isha, and at the same time, try to convince the people at your work place to allow you to pray your prayers. Use your weapon: Duas. And do Istighfar abundantly.
      Although it's not good to pray the kaza, bro IslamInside is right, if your situation is that bad, it's better than nothing. Allah (swt) knows our true intentions.

      May Allah (swt) ease your situation, Ameen!
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      Al-Zaara: "Please, if I offended you then forgive me, it was never my intention. I didn't know too much about your situation. Is there really no place in your work to pray? Anywhere would be fine. Just 5-10 minutes, when you've got break or lunch time, you can go and pray, insha'Allah. Or you could ask your boss for a place to pray, for just a few minutes."


      No of course you didn't, I apologise if it sounded like that, it's just that I was in one of my moods while I was typing it, i'm very sorry please forgive me I know it didn't sound nice.

      Do you think it's ok to pray Isha namaaz, like say for instance if i've missed all the others and it couldn't be helped?

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      ive always been taught that the core prayer be prayed first, and then the kaza namaz be prayed,because it is in the time frame for the core one...the imams answer in the following example also states that:

      Question?
      since I am going for computer education my Namaze-asar is always skipped so can I pray it as kaza namaz after namaze-isha or Shall I pray it next day ?


      Imam reply:
      It is unlawful for a muslim to leave his prayer for any purpose, so it is obligatery to leave computer education in this time and to start it in any other time. According to Islamic juripurdance qaza namaz should be offered as soon as possible. You should pray it after Maghrib and in case you don't have time after maghrib, ofer it after Isha prayer.

      it also depends on the madhab...i can let u know if you tell me ur madhab.im raeding an article now but its not in english.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Tanya Khan View Post
      No of course you didn't, I apologise if it sounded like that, it's just that I was in one of my moods while I was typing it, i'm very sorry please forgive me I know it didn't sound nice.
      Nothing to apologise for, I see you've got a tough situation, so of course it's very insensitve of us others to come and judge you, for something we may haven't expirienced ourselves.

      I do hope you understand why we're saying this, as the Salah is so important in Islam, one of the 5 pillars, a beautiful way to connect with Allah (swt).
      As brother IslamInside said, pray Istikharah for guidance and try to talk to your boss. Because I do not believe to pray is impossible. If every prayer you miss, Fajr, Zuhr, Asr and Maghrib takes 10 minutes = 40 minutes for prayers in work a day, insha'Allah.

      Do you think it's ok to pray Isha namaaz, like say for instance if i've missed all the others and it couldn't be helped?
      Do pray Isha, and make up those other prayers insha'Allah.

      Take a look at these:

      http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=49019&ln=eng

      http://www.islam-qa.com/index.php?ref=21616&ln=eng
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      ^ I can't view them, it just says 'click here to register', is that because i'm a new member? :confused:

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      Re: Kaza Namaz


      Quote Originally Posted by Tanya Khan View Post
      ^ So what do you suggest I do? I can't exactly leave my job, I can't pray at work as there is no facilities to do that. I will be homeless in a month or two, i'm very depressed as it is, believe it or not, leaving my job will put me in a life or death situation!
      i find that a bit hard to believe, even in my office if i cant make it to the prayer room then i just pray in the office, why should we care if people see us pray, they might even like it and ask questions. Then we can try reverting them to islam.

      The sky is our dome and the ground our prayer mat, prayer wherever its clean on the floor (ie no chewing gum etc etc)
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      Quote Originally Posted by Tanya Khan View Post
      ^ I can't view them, it just says 'click here to register', is that because i'm a new member? :confused:
      It should work. I didn't need a registration. :confused:

      Edit: (the two links you couldn't see)

      Should he pray the present prayer or the prayer he missed?

      Question:
      If I miss a prayer for a reason such as sleeping, should I pray the prayer I have missed or the present prayer, if the present prayer has already been prayed in congregation?

      Answer:

      Praise be to Allaah.
      The Muslim should maintain the habit of praying regularly on time, for Allaah praises the believers who, as He says (interpretation of the meaning):

      “And those who guard their Salaah (prayers) well”
      [al-Ma’aarij 70:34]

      If a person has an excuse and he missed a prayer, then he has to make it up, because the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “Whoever forgets a prayer or sleeps and misses it, the expiation for this sin is to pray it when he remembers it.” (Narrated by Muslim, al-Masaajid wa Mawaadi’ al-Salaah, 1103)

      If you miss a prayer, then you have to pray that prayer first, then pray the current prayer; it is not permissible to delay (making up the missed prayer). It is commonly thought among the people that if a man misses a fard prayer, he should make it up with the corresponding fard prayer of the next day, so that if, for example, he missed Fajr on one day he can only pray it with Fajr on the second day. This is wrong, and it goes against the teaching of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), in both his words and deeds.

      It was narrated that he said: “Whoever forgets a prayer or sleeps and misses it, then let him pray it when he remembers it.” He did not say, let him pray it on the following day when the time for that prayer comes, rather he said, “let him pray it when he remembers it.” With regard to his actions, when he missed a prayer on one of the days of the campaign of al-Khandaq, he prayed it before the current prayer, which indicates that one has to pray the missed prayer and then pray the current prayer. But if he forgets and prays the current prayer before the missed prayer, or he was ignorant and did not know (of the ruling), then he prayer is valid because he has an excuse.

      (See Fataawa al-Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, vol. 12, p. 222)

      The hadeeth about the prayer on the day of al-Khandaq was narrated by al-Nasaa’i from ‘Abd al-Rahmaan ibn Abi Sa’eed from his father, who said: “The mushrikeen kept us busy on the day of al-Khandaq and distracted us from praying Zuhr until the sun set. Then the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) commanded Bilaal to call the iqaamah for Zuhr prayer, and he prayed it, then he called the iqaamah for Asr and he prayed it, then he called the adhaan for Maghrib then he prayed it as he usually prayed it, on time.” (al-Adhaan, 655; classed as saheeh by al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Nasaa’i, no. 638)

      The action of the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) indicates that it is obligatory to pray the missed prayers in the right order. But if there is only enough time left to pray the current prayer, then he should pray the current prayer, then pray the ones that came before it.


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      Next

      In what order missed prayers should be made up

      Question:
      Suppose I miss out 2 prayers. Now in which sequence should I complete my prayers. .

      Answer:
      Praise be to Allaah.

      It is obligatory to make up missed prayers in the proper order, according to the majority of scholars.

      Ibn Qudaamah said (al-Mughni, 1/352): In conclusion, it is essential to offer missed prayers in order. This was stated by Ahmad in several places… and a similar view was narrated from al-Nakha’i, al-Zuhri, Rabee’ah, Yahya al-Ansaari, Maalik, al-Layth, Abu Haneefah and Ishaaq.

      Al-Shaafa’i said: It is not essential, because one is making up an obligatory prayer that has been missed, so it is not essential to offer them in order, as with fasting… Once this is established, then it is essential to offer them in order even if they are many. This was stated by Ahmad.

      Maalik and Abu Haneefah said that they do not have to be offered in order if there are more than a day and a night of prayers, because doing that with regard to more than that period would be too difficult. So the obligation is waived, just like making up missed Ramadaan fasts in sequence.

      End quote from al-Mughni, 1/352.

      From this it may be understood that offering missed prayers should be done in sequence according to the majority of Hanafis, Maalikis and Hanbalis, except that the Hanafis and Maalikis do not say it is obligatory if the prayers of more than one day and one night have been missed.

      The way in which the missed prayers are made up in order is to do the missed prayers in the same order as the prescribed prayers. So whoever misses Zuhr and ‘Asr, for example, should pray Zuhr first, then ‘Asr.

      But the obligation to do them in order is waived in the case of one who forgets or was ignorant, or if there is the fear that the time for the current prayer will end soon, or if one fears missing out on a prayer in congregation – according to the more correct view.

      If a person owes two prayers, Zuhr and ‘Asr for example, and starts with ‘Asr by mistake or because he is unaware that the missed prayers should be offered in order, his prayer is valid.

      If he fears that if he starts with the prayers he missed the time for ‘Asr prayer will end, then he should pray ‘Asr first, then pray whatever prayers he owes.

      Similarly if he enters the mosque, should he offer the current prayer with the congregation or make up what he has missed first? Ahmad, according to one report which was also favoured by Shaykh al-Islam, was of the view that he does not have to offer the prayers in sequence if he fears that he will miss out on praying with the congregation.

      But in this case he should join the congregation with the intention of offering the missed prayer. So if a person has missed Zuhr and he comes to the mosque and they are praying ‘Asr, he can pray with the congregation with the intention of praying Zuhr, and it does not matter if his intention is different from that of the imam. Then he can pray ‘Asr after that.

      See al-Sharh al-Mumti’, 2/138-144.

      And Allaah knows best.
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