Bismillah and the Quran

jello · **Bismillah and the Quran -** 02-13-2007

I would like to know the situation with respect to the formula "Bismillah Ar-Rahman ar-Raheem" and its place in the Quran.

As is known, there is difference of opinion as to whether "Bismillah" is part of all the Quranic Surahs, or part of Surah al-Fatihah only, or not part of the Quran at all. So some of the enemies of Islam have used this difference of opinion to attack Islam, and I would like to know the answer for this.

Insha Allah some of the knowledgeable brothers and sisters can help in this respect.

Emperor · **Re: Bismillah and the Quran -** 02-15-2007

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Originally Posted by jello

I would like to know the situation with respect to the formula "Bismillah Ar-Rahman ar-Raheem" and its place in the Quran.

As is known, there is difference of opinion as to whether "Bismillah" is part of all the Quranic Surahs, or part of Surah al-Fatihah only, or not part of the Quran at all. So some of the enemies of Islam have used this difference of opinion to attack Islam, and I would like to know the answer for this.

Insha Allah some of the knowledgeable brothers and sisters can help in this respect.

Muy understanding is that that phrase heads all of the suras in the Quran with the exception of sura nine.

Umar001 · **Re: Bismillah and the Quran -** 02-15-2007

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Originally Posted by jello

I would like to know the situation with respect to the formula "Bismillah Ar-Rahman ar-Raheem" and its place in the Quran.

As is known, there is difference of opinion as to whether "Bismillah" is part of all the Quranic Surahs, or part of Surah al-Fatihah only, or not part of the Quran at all. So some of the enemies of Islam have used this difference of opinion to attack Islam, and I would like to know the answer for this.

Insha Allah some of the knowledgeable brothers and sisters can help in this respect.

Well what would you like answered?

Maybe if you can tell me what the 'enemies' of Islaam say then we can try to understand it better together insha'Allah.

I cannot imagine what they would say since whether it is or is not is hardly a grave matter.

**Muraad** · **Re: Bismillah and the Quran -** 02-15-2007

It isn't a matter that can be used to claim attacks, those that do must really be desperate. Here is a general explanation from the Explanation of Aqeedah Al Wasatiyyah:

There is a controversy among the Ulama regarding Bismillah as to whether this is an initial verse of each Surah of the Qur'an or an independant verse on its own, which has been stated to mark the intermediate distances between the Surahs, and for blessing. The second opinion is preferred.

The Ulama are agreed that Bismillah is a part of the verse of Surah An-Naml (The Ant) and likewise they are agreed that Bismillah has been left out in the beginning of Surah At-Tauba (The Repentance) for this and the Surah Al-Anfal (The Spoils of War) occurring prior to it are both like one continous Surah.

http://www.islamicboard.com/365927-post2.html

Emperor · **Re: Bismillah and the Quran -** 02-15-2007

Either way, it has no major bearing on the substance of Islam.

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jello Full Member Status: Offline Posts: 147 Reputation: 79 Rep Power: 30 Join Date: Apr 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Bismillah and the Quran - 02-13-2007 I would like to know the situation with respect to the formula "Bismillah Ar-Rahman ar-Raheem" and its place in the Quran. As is known, there is difference of opinion as to whether "Bismillah" is part of all the Quranic Surahs, or part of Surah al-Fatihah only, or not part of the Quran at all. So some of the enemies of Islam have used this difference of opinion to attack Islam, and I would like to know the answer for this. Insha Allah some of the knowledgeable brothers and sisters can help in this respect. __________________ Purchase my new book on the problems of the main Shia doctrine of Imamah. The book, entitled "Imaamah and the Quran: An Objective Perspective" is available at: www.lulu.com/content/213359

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Muraad *Khatib al-Hoor* Status: Offline Posts: 7,943 Reputation: 72594 Rep Power: 127 Join Date: Mar 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Bismillah and the Quran - 02-15-2007 It isn't a matter that can be used to claim attacks, those that do must really be desperate. Here is a general explanation from the Explanation of Aqeedah Al Wasatiyyah: There is a controversy among the Ulama regarding Bismillah as to whether this is an initial verse of each Surah of the Qur'an or *an independant verse on its own, which has been stated to mark the intermediate distances between the Surahs, and for blessing.* The second opinion is preferred. The Ulama are agreed that Bismillah is a part of the verse of Surah An-Naml (The Ant) and likewise they are agreed that Bismillah has been left out in the beginning of Surah At-Tauba (The Repentance) for this and the Surah Al-Anfal (The Spoils of War) occurring prior to it are both like one continous Surah. http://www.islamicboard.com/365927-post2.html __________________ The example of those who take allies other than Allah is like that of the spider who takes a home. And indeed, the weakest of homes is the home of the spider, if they only knew. Indeed, Allah knows whatever thing they call upon other than Him. And He is the Exalted in Might, the Wise. And these examples We present to the people, but none will understand them except those of knowledge. [al-'Ankaboot; 41-44]

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Emperor Full Member Status: Offline Posts: 50 Reputation: 31 Rep Power: 24 Join Date: Mar 2006 Way of Life: Undisclosed	Re: Bismillah and the Quran - 02-15-2007 Either way, it has no major bearing on the substance of Islam.