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Narrated Qays ibn Sa'd: I went to al-Hirah and saw them (the people) prostrating themselves before a satrap of theirs, so I said: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) has most right to have prostration made before him. When I came to the Prophet (peace_be_upon_him), I said: I went to al-Hirah and saw them prostrating themselves before a satrap of theirs, but you have most right, Apostle of Allah, to have (people) prostrating themselves before you. He said: Tell me , if you were to pass my grave, would you prostrate yourself before it? I said: No. He then said: Do not do so. If I were to command anyone to make prostration before another I would command women to prostrate themselves before their husbands, because of the special right over them given to husbands by Allah. (SOURCE)And before you post again. Yes, this really says that: "instead of the governors of the provinces of ancient Median and Persian, Mohammad has most right to be prostrated before." It also really says: "If I were to command anyone to make prostration before another I would command women to prostrate themselves before their husbands, because of the special right over them given to husbands by Allah." | |
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This is actually why the hadith you mentioned above was explained by the Messenger of Allaah: In the laws of these and previous Prophets, it was allowed for the people to prostrate before the men of authority, when they met them. This practice was allowed in the law of Adam until the law of `Isa [Jesus son of Mary], peace be upon them, but was later prohibited in our law. Islam made prostration exclusively for Allah Alone, the Exalted and Most Honored. The implication of this statement was collected from Qatadah and other scholars. When Mu`adh bin Jabal visited the Sham [Greater Syria] area, he found them prostrating before their priests. When he returned (to Al-Madinah), he prostrated before the Messenger of Allah , who asked him, Quote:
No, women have the right to work also. However it is an obligation upon the man whereas it isn't an obligation upon the wife to support the husband financially. | |
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Because God knows that there were among mankind people who took these pious people as 'intermediaries' or deities along with God [i.e christian saints]. And that is the concept of shirk [associating partners with God] which is the most evil of sins in the sight of Allaah. So to save this muslim nation from falling into the same traps, God forbade the doorway to it. Quote:
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If you've read the hadith you'll see the word 'IF' is used, which is showing how much rights they [the husband/wife] have upon each other. | |
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It was never done Think about it, even if a wife works and she's more wealthier than the husband - its still an obligation upon him to support her. However, if she is willing to support the husband with her wealth - then this is a form of good on her behalf and she will be rewarded for it. So its in no way implying that women are lower than men, so please don't think that. Regards. | |
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I'll take your word for it, however, the example he gives by saying "I would command women to prostrate themselves before their husbands" Sure makes them seem lower since prostrating will make you certainly lower then the person your bowing to. | |
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Was Prophet Joseph's father pious? His father was Prophet Israel [Jacob/Ya'qub] - however his father still bowed to him. Didn't he? | |
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