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i know muslim girls n boys go astray n deviate from their path.one of my friend too wants to get married to a hindu girl.i would like to know whether the marriage wil last n wil the parents except or not.




The brother can not get married to a hindu. he can either get married to a muslim, christian or jew and no other faith. Even though it would be alot better if he got married to a muslim woman because there are lots of muslim women who dont have husbands, so its important that they have partners and someone can take care of them.

But this is what the scholars say about marrying christian, jewish women.


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Originally, it is permissible for a Muslim man to marry a woman from among the People of the Book. Referring to this, Allah Almighty says, (This day (all) the good things are allowed to you; and the food of those who have been given the Book is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them; and the chaste from among the believing women and the chaste from among those who have been given the Book before you (are lawful for you); when you have given them their dowries, taking (them) in marriage, not fornicating nor taking them for paramours in secret; and whoever denies faith, his work indeed is of no account, and in the hereafter he shall be one of the losers.) (Al-Ma'idah 5: 5)



With the above in mind, we should affirm that it is better for a Muslim to marry a Muslim woman. In case a Muslim wants to marry a non-Muslim woman from among the People of the Book, then he should be keen to remind her of belief in One God.



Answering the question in point, Dr. Muzammil Siddiqi,President of the Fiqh Council of North America, states the following:


It is permissible for a Muslim man to marry a Kitabi (Jewish or Christian) woman (see surat al-Ma'idah 5:5), but it is certainly better for a Muslim to marry a Muslim woman. According to some jurists, the permission to marry a Kitabi woman is only for those people who are living in a Muslim State. Those who are living in non-Muslim societies, it is better for them to have Muslim wives. In this way it will be easy for them to keep their home fully Islamic and it will be easier for them to raise their children in an Islamic manner.

Christians and Jews both claim that they believe in one God. Jews in their prayers declare "Shema'" which means, "Hear O Israel, the Lord your God is one God." Similarly Christians also say in their creed, "We believe in One God" but then they confuse their belief in the unity of God with the Trinity. Islam emphasized pure tawhid and took away all the confusions that were created in the concept of monotheism by many Jews and Christians. It is good that a Muslim be keen to remind both Jews and Christians to believe and affirm their faith in One God, especially if one is marrying a person and they both want to be life partners for each others.

You can also read:

Marriage to a Christian Woman: Unrestrictedly Permitted?

Marrying a Non-Muslim Male

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Default Re: Love or Desire - 01-17-2006

I dont really watch love movies
But i dont understand y ppl throw away the ppl, education, position they had from da day they were born, for a man they hardly know?
They r blinded! But sadly not all these lovers are sincere
As a person i knew, gave up everytg 4 her love and ended up being cheated after he gt physically close to her. Now her education, family life and everything is down the drain. Its sad, but many ppl dont realise it while they fall in love, its only after they feel the pain of falling into it, they realise that true love is only after marriage.
Many view marriage as a seurity n never classifies it as true love, as everyone feels its only logical that u love ur wife or husband. But they are forgetting smtg? In a marriage, you are practically living with the other partner, u see his sorrows, happiness, sadness, all the problems he has, is not only his, but urs too? If he fails in a business, you put in faith. The hurdles you meet after marriage are often overseen and not classified as love.As ppl feel its logical that you have to stick with ur spouse tru sadness n happiness. What is "love" before marriage compared to this? Most lovers only have fights sparked off among themselves n solve dem n pretend as if it a hurdle n label it as true love. Who r they fighting against? Parents? Parents who transformed their blood n sweat as milk n fed them???who grew them when they were helpless infants? Sisters and bros who supported them? What they meet be4 marriage is nothing compared to what they meet after marriage. Because after marriage, whether good o bad, u stick together as superglue n enrich your relationship. Now thats what i classify true love
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mashallah, it's a good advice
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Default Re: Love or Desire - 01-17-2006

Jazaakum Allahu khairan to all.

Passionate love, by definition, is an intense desire that has sexual arousal at its base. Passionate love, after the fulfillment of the sexual desire it was based on, wares off. Therefore passionate love is not enough to attain the security and comfort we as human beings seek in our relationships.

We need passionate love, intimacy, and a sense of commitment to make our relationships work, and actually last.

This is why in our marriages we need to strive to ensure that our relationship fulfills our needs on all levels: psychologically, emotionally, physically, etc. Before all of this of course is the intention we keep behind our marriages--worship to Allah, and striving to maintain a righteous household that is the first step in building a healthy society. Our marital relationships should be based on mutual trust, respect, compassion, empathy and communication.

The images we see in the media are hardly reflective of what it takes to actually keep a relationship going, or how to get one started in the first place.
   
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Great post Taebah sis. JazakAllah for bringing up this very important issue.

Education begins from a mothers lap. It is a little too late when parents who've sat and watched such films with their children, then throw a barney when their kids go off the rails.

Parents fail to explain do's and don'ts to their children and these are the results. It all boils down to the lack of islamic education and environment at home.

Too many parents say, you can't do this and you can't do that, without ever bothering to explain the repercussions of forbidden acts. Exposure to films/songs that glorify this kind of love will only corrupt young minds. And some old ones too.

Islamic education from an early age, is the only way forward. As they say prevention is better than cure.

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love for the win!!!

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tht was one goood article...(agree with noor's post bout film) mashallah!!!!jazakallah for sharing!!
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I really think you should read the:

Fiqh of Love


Its kinda long, but its really beneficial because its from al-maghrib masha Allaah.

Its just the first chapter, and if people are interested in it - i can try to put in the other chapters too.


   
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Default Re: Love or Desire - 01-19-2006

Salaam

The problem is the amount of mass media we have hitting us daily especially
us muslims who live in the west, the kufar are sending out the messages and
values by Telivision which is an addiction, through this we see haraam on a
mass scale be it,love triangles, background music etc, yet it's considerd as a
norm in many muslim housholds unless we get these nagative things out of our
lives we'll be exposed to them, even though we might not act upon them we'll
have already been exposed to them. For example we'll have an advert which will have semi-naked women thus exciting the males and making him look at women as a piece of sexual meat, also music which could be done through adverts or soundtracks for films, soaps etc, ever wonderd why it's you can think of a song and you'll hear it with CD quality but yet you cant do the same with the quran.
   
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Great post Taebah sis. JazakAllah for bringing up this very important issue.

Education begins from a mothers lap. It is a little too late when parents who've sat and watched such films with their children, then throw a barney when their kids go off the rails.

Parents fail to explain do's and don'ts to their children and these are the results. It all boils down to the lack of islamic education and environment at home.

Too many parents say, you can't do this and you can't do that, without ever bothering to explain the repercussions of forbidden acts. Exposure to films/songs that glorify this kind of love will only corrupt young minds. And some old ones too.

Islamic education from an early age, is the only way forward. As they say prevention is better than cure.


gotta say sis..i'm SO with u on that...its so odd wen parents force their kids to attend madrasahz after school or wat not..and then wen the kids come home..wat the 1st see is TV..and the parents expect the kids to be 'religious'..
Alhamdulillah not ALL parents are like that...but in sum cases because the parents are ignorant...they choose to turn a blind eye to wat theur kids do..
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The problem is the amount of mass media we have hitting us daily especially
us muslims who live in the west, the kufar are sending out the messages
The problem is, muslims choosing to let themselves be influenced by the media. The same exposure stems from muslim countries too. We can't blame the west for our downfalls.


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gotta say sis..i'm SO with u on that...its so odd wen parents force their kids to attend madrasahz after school or wat not..and then wen the kids come home..wat the 1st see is TV..and the parents expect the kids to be 'religious'..
Alhamdulillah not ALL parents are like that...but in sum cases because the parents are ignorant...they choose to turn a blind eye to wat theur kids do..
am i makin ne sense..or hav i gone off topic?


No, you're not off topic. I've seen a lot of households go to ruin because children haven't been taught right from wrong. I've seen parents gifting mullahs because their child has finished the Quran, never mind if he's understood it or not.

Child is disobedient. Child steals. Child swears. Oh, don't bother explaining to the child why it's wrong. Just take the easy way out and tell him that the policeman will come and take him away. Pathetic, but this is what I've heard mothers tell their children. Very soon the child realises that this phantom policeman never materialises. The mother realises her threats are futile.

No use telling that child what the Quran & hadith says when he's a teenager and deaf for the noise of hormones raging around his body. To him it will be an alien language. If you're going to say something to your child one day, you'd be better off by saying it from day one.

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Great post Taebah sis. JazakAllah for bringing up this very important issue.

Education begins from a mothers lap. It is a little too late when parents who've sat and watched such films with their children, then throw a barney when their kids go off the rails.

Parents fail to explain do's and don'ts to their children and these are the results. It all boils down to the lack of islamic education and environment at home.

Too many parents say, you can't do this and you can't do that, without ever bothering to explain the repercussions of forbidden acts. Exposure to films/songs that glorify this kind of love will only corrupt young minds. And some old ones too.

Islamic education from an early age, is the only way forward. As they say prevention is better than cure.

This reminds me of a story typical of many muslim youths. A man came to the imam of the masjid, complaining about his teenage son.

My son doesn't pray, he takes drugs and has girlfriends. Can you do something about it?

The imam said, "how old is he now?"

"16"

"Well, you should have brought him to me when he was 5!"

Okay, without criticizing the imam, our children, our responsibility. Not the imam, the scholar or the teacher for that matter.

If can't handle responsibility, don't have sex. Nuff said. Because the consequence of your passionate and uncontrolled hormones is another life.

You've messed up yours, don't mess up others'.
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This reminds me of a story typical of many muslim youths. A man came to the imam of the masjid, complaining about his teenage son.

My son doesn't pray, he takes drugs and has girlfriends. Can you do something about it?

The imam said, "how old is he now?"

"16"

"Well, you should have brought him to me when he was 5!"

Okay, without criticizing the imam, our children, our responsibility. Not the imam, the scholar or the teacher for that matter.

If can't handle responsibility, don't have sex. Nuff said. Because the consequence of your passionate and uncontrolled hormones is another life.

You've messed up yours, don't mess up others'.


there are many stories similar to what u mentioned above, you also have to understand is that when our parents came to western countries there main concern was to put the food on table for their family. so upbringing of their children (according to Al-Islam) was not a major concern to them, because many of them didn't have correct islamic knowledge themself.

Now that they (parents) have established themself and seen their young children grow up the wrong way, for some it's too late and some of them are trying their best to correct the mistake they made years ago.

that's why we see/hear ppl going to ulemah of Al-Islam or so-called saints for help, why they do this is because they have seen their parents go to so-called saints for every problem. i'll give u an example of my gran-ma she tells their daughter-inlaws go to this saint or that and he'll sort all ur probelms (cow not giving milk, husband nt happy etc etc)

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MashaAllah very good article....JazakAllah khair for sharing it with us!
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If can't handle responsibility, don't have sex. Nuff said. Because the consequence of your passionate and uncontrolled hormones is another life

*cough* thats a bit harsh isnt it.

its not quite as easy or as simple as that brother
everyone goes through certain 'phases' in their lives and many do not think about children or responsibilities or consequences for that matter until very later on (even up until when their kids are teenagers, the parents still act like teenagers themselves, what kind of an example is that ?) ....they should but they dont.

brother iqbal_ibn_adam point is very true "our parents have done everything for us except teach us Islam"

we are the next generation
lets hope we do not make these mistakes.


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