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| Junior Member   Status: Offline Posts: 47 Reputation: 132 Rep Power: 0  Join Date: Jul 2005 Gender:  Way of Life: Muslim |  These effeminate men should never enter upon you, O women! -
08-15-2005
الحمد لله رب العالمين وصلى الله وسلم على نبينا محمد وعلى آله وأصحابه ومن اهتدى بهديه إلى يوم الدين أما بعد
__________________السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته The Book of Military Expeditions No. 4012 - Narrated Umm Salamah radhiyallaahu 'anhaa: The Prophet sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam came to me while there was an effeminate man sitting with me, and I heard him (i.e. the effeminate man) saying to 'Abdullaah bin Abi Umaiya, "O 'Abdullah! See if Allaah should make you conquer Ta'if tomorrow, then take the daughter of Ghailan (in marriage) as (she is so beautiful and fat that) she shows four folds of flesh when facing you, and eight when she turns her back." The Prophet sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam then said, "These (effeminate men) should never enter upon you (O women!)." Ibn Juraij radhiyallaahu 'anhu said, "That effeminate man was called Hit." كتاب اللباس The Book of Dress No. 5506 - Narrated Ibn 'Abbaas radhiyallaahu 'anhu: The Prophet sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam cursed effeminate men (those men who are in the similitude (assume the manners of women) and those women who assume the manners of men, and he said, "Turn them out of your houses." The Prophet sallallaahu 'alaihi wa sallam turned out such-and-such man, and 'Umar radhiyallaahu 'anhu turned out such-and-such woman Taken from Saheehul Bukhaaree - http://www.spubs.com/sps/sbk/ وصلى الله وسلم على نبينا محمد وعلى آله وصحبه وسلم تسليما كثيراً Abu Na'aila "And it is up to Allah to show the right way. But there are ways that stray. And had He willed, He would have guided you all." [Surah An-Nahl 16:9] |
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| Defender of Islam  Status: Offline Posts: 894 Reputation: 677 Rep Power: 28  Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minneapolis,Minnesota Gender:  Way of Life: Muslim | Re: These effeminate men should never enter upon you, O women! -
08-15-2005
Asallama Alaikum yes,sister mainly the gays and lesbo's.Jazakallah brother for the hadith & link.Very beneficial.Welcome to LI forums hope you enjoy your stay.  |
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| Je m'aime tujours!  Status: Offline Posts: 672 Reputation: 1793 Rep Power: 30 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Luxurious loft with my Macintosh Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: These effeminate men should never enter upon you, O women! -
08-15-2005
 What did the prophet do with that man?  Takumi Nakashima WattaquLlah(a) wa yu'allimukumuLlah(u) (Be Mindful of Allah and He will teach you) |
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| Want cup of tea!   Status: Offline Posts: 10,532 Reputation: 50478 Rep Power: 102 Join Date: Jun 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: These effeminate men should never enter upon you, O women! -
08-15-2005
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Also, does 'effeminate men' include 'metrosexuals'? They're not gay, but kind of like Beckham in their obsession with their appearance. | |
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| Junior Member Status: Offline Posts: 47 Reputation: 132 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Jul 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: These effeminate men should never enter upon you, O women! -
08-16-2005
As Salaamu Alaikum wa Rahmatu Allah:
__________________Sorry I don't have the shar nor the takreej of this hadeeth. But does it include the gay. Yes it does. There are men that are effeminate in nature but not gay. They still like women. I knew some of these types back before I was Muslim. But how much more then the gay man. Isn't he more than just effeminate if he finds attraction in a man??? By Allah this man is worse than justthe effeminate. He is cursed!!! As to what was done withthis man.... The hadeeth does not specify. So nor shall I. Far be it by me to speak on what I have no knowledge of. If anyone has access to the shar of this hadeeth, then please by all means bring it. Barak Allahu Feek, Abu Na'aila "And it is up to Allah to show the right way. But there are ways that stray. And had He willed, He would have guided you all." [Surah An-Nahl 16:9] |
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| IB Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 763 Reputation: 360 Rep Power: 28 Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NY, USA Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: These effeminate men should never enter upon you, O women! -
08-16-2005
"metrosexual"
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| ....................  Status: Offline Posts: 1,189 Reputation: 1416 Rep Power: 30 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: New York Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: These effeminate men should never enter upon you, O women! -
09-16-2005
Ok, I got a computer teacher who acts, like a girl, lol... He's married and all, but you can't help but get the feeling that he's a little too feminine for his own good... He wears tight clothes and well basically just talks like one too... There's nothing wrong with having a teacher like that is there?
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| IB Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 674 Reputation: 566 Rep Power: 28 Join Date: Jul 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: These effeminate men should never enter upon you, O women! -
09-18-2005
The scary thing: She goes to an islamic schoool.... Anyway, Im not sure, but do you think this hadeeth also means we shouldnt be hanging around with girls...  |
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Oh there's more than effeminate men at my school, you can be 100% sure of that.... Quote:
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| Limited Member  Status: Offline Posts: 43 Reputation: 28 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Australlia Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: These effeminate men should never enter upon you, O women! -
09-19-2005
i guess we can hang around girls, but we better not get TOO CLOSE.... anyway dat was a nice hadith SALAMZ |
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| Account Disabled  Status: Offline Posts: 8,355 Reputation: 37858 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Jul 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: These effeminate men should never enter upon you, O women! -
09-19-2005
When the hadith says that women should not act like men, does that mean they cannot wear trouses? Because alot of women dispute about this, as some women say some trousers are for women not men. I guess this also questions the modesty of wearing trousers, since you can kinda tell the figure of a woman when she wears trousers. Sorry if i'm kinda going off the topic here. But I always wondered about that (I don't wear trousers and i'm not intending to either just in case u were wondering ). :coolsis: Ok salaam to all.... :rose: |
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