Missing Asr Prayer - Page 2

- Qatada - · **Re: 'Asr -** 09-25-2005

Jazzakum Allahu Khairan for the excellent question.

First, let's agree on the importance of prayer in general. Allah, subhannahu wa ta'laa, the Lord of the universe, has created us strictly for worship. Therefore, He decides what form of woship pleases Him, what time it pleases Him, and where it pleases Him. Prayer is the first pillar that we act upon after taking our shahadah and entering the fold of Islam. The difference between a Muslim and a Kaffir is the abandonment of prayer as it was mentioned in a sahih hadith by the Prophet, salah allahu 'alayhi wa salam.

After realizing the importance of prayer, the Prophet, peace be upon him, has stressed upon specific prayers, either for special reward if it is performed on time, and others, for a terrible reckoning if it is delayed or abandoned. From the specificities, in reward and punishment, is salatul asr, or asr prayer.

In Sahih Bukhari, there is a whole chapter related the virtues of asr prayer. From these ahadith, it spoke of those who are going to gather in Jannah to see Allah's blessed face, and the Prophet's advice, peace be upon him, to his ummah is to take heed of the prayer before dusk and dawn, or asr and fajr. In another hadith it was related that the angels visit the worshippers in asr and fajr prayer, and Allah asks them, and he is more knowledgeable than them, "How did you leave my slaves?", the angels reply, "We left them as they were praying and came back and they were (still) praying".

As for the other side of the scope, the Prophet, peace be upon him, has also mentioned fatal losses for those who delay 'asr prayer, let alone abandon it. To stress on this point, the Prophet, peace be upon him, said, as it was related in Bukhari, "Whoever misses the `Asr prayer, it is as if he has lost his family and wealth" - and, "Whoever leaves the `Asr prayer, then his actions will be invalidated

Thus, this concludes us to fathom the severity of the matter, as it is linked with our whole faith. Allah has mentioned that whoever commits Kufr in Allah will have his good deeds dropped. The scholars have differenciated between those who miss prayer because of laziness, and the ones who abandon it all together knowing its obligation. We can associate this ruling for all prayers, but specifically to 'asr prayer, since there is an authentic hadith asserting this view. Some of sholars were of the opinion that the deeds which are dropped from 'asr prayer are the good deeds which are raised to Allah during that specific time, and others said its the deeds that come after the prayer. And in another opinion, is that the there are two forms of 7abt, or deeds which are dropped. First, the good deeds, which are dropped with Kufr, and the second is the dropping of bad deeds, which the believer gets, so that he can make use of his hasanat on the day of accountability. [I derived this from fath al baree, sharh sahih al bukhari from the explaination of the hadith mentioned].

In any case, the ahadith which are mentioned, provides us insight to the importance of asr prayer in specific, and a clear warning to the one who delays it intentionally or abandons it. One should be aware that this is not a joking matter since prayer is the most importat aspect of our faith after understanding tawheed. This hadith speaks to the aforementioned people of carelessness that the matter is so serious that it might bring wrath of Allah upon them but before that, they might have their deeds dropped, because they've ignored Allah, and chose to live a life away from worship and obedience.

wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.

Abu-Dalha · **Re: 'Asr -** 09-25-2005

Assallama Alaikum brother JazakAllah for the hadith.Yes,if one forgets then he/she isn't accounted to it,but if they are aware and still decide to not pray Asr then all of his hasanat's will perish and his sayiats will increase.Even if he's a good muslim.I don't get it how are you going to be called a good muslim if you delibrately put off prayers such as asr.

**Re: 'Asr -** 09-27-2005

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Originally Posted by Mu'maneen

If forgetfulness is genuine without the result of certain bad actions then it is forgiven by Allah Inshah'Allah.

Remember Akhie if one forgets genuinely , it is the action of the pious and Tabi'een, to seek forgiveness no matter what. This is the point I was trying to put across.

akhee,

I was gettin' the notion that you implied that if one forgets in ignorance, he will be accounted for that. My apologies akhee for misunderstandin' your post.

As for hastenin' to seek forgiveness, it was the practise of Muhammad al-Mustafa (Peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to ask forgiveness even though his past and future sins were forgiven.

Mu'maneen · **Re: 'Asr -** 09-29-2005

Quote:

I was gettin' the notion that you implied that if one forgets in ignorance, he will be accounted for that. My apologies akhee for misunderstandin' your post.

As for hastenin' to seek forgiveness, it was the practise of Muhammad al-Mustafa (Peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) to ask forgiveness even though his past and future sins were forgiven.

Alhamdulellah we agree.

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- Qatada - Ummah Under 1 Banner Status: Offline Posts: 10,286 Reputation: 41172 Rep Power: 82 Join Date: May 2005 Location: ...travelling to the hereafter.. Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: 'Asr - 09-25-2005 Jazzakum Allahu Khairan for the excellent question. First, let's agree on the importance of prayer in general. Allah, subhannahu wa ta'laa, the Lord of the universe, has created us strictly for worship. Therefore, He decides what form of woship pleases Him, what time it pleases Him, and where it pleases Him. Prayer is the first pillar that we act upon after taking our shahadah and entering the fold of Islam. The difference between a Muslim and a Kaffir is the abandonment of prayer as it was mentioned in a sahih hadith by the Prophet, salah allahu 'alayhi wa salam. After realizing the importance of prayer, the Prophet, peace be upon him, has stressed upon specific prayers, either for special reward if it is performed on time, and others, for a terrible reckoning if it is delayed or abandoned. From the specificities, in reward and punishment, is salatul asr, or asr prayer. In Sahih Bukhari, there is a whole chapter related the virtues of asr prayer. From these ahadith, it spoke of those who are going to gather in Jannah to see Allah's blessed face, and the Prophet's advice, peace be upon him, to his ummah is to take heed of the prayer before dusk and dawn, or asr and fajr. In another hadith it was related that the angels visit the worshippers in asr and fajr prayer, and Allah asks them, and he is more knowledgeable than them, "How did you leave my slaves?", the angels reply, "We left them as they were praying and came back and they were (still) praying". As for the other side of the scope, the Prophet, peace be upon him, has also mentioned fatal losses for those who delay 'asr prayer, let alone abandon it. To stress on this point, the Prophet, peace be upon him, said, as it was related in Bukhari, "Whoever misses the `Asr prayer, it is as if he has lost his family and wealth" - and, "Whoever leaves the `Asr prayer, then his actions will be invalidated Thus, this concludes us to fathom the severity of the matter, as it is linked with our whole faith. Allah has mentioned that whoever commits Kufr in Allah will have his good deeds dropped. The scholars have differenciated between those who miss prayer because of laziness, and the ones who abandon it all together knowing its obligation. We can associate this ruling for all prayers, but specifically to 'asr prayer, since there is an authentic hadith asserting this view. Some of sholars were of the opinion that the deeds which are dropped from 'asr prayer are the good deeds which are raised to Allah during that specific time, and others said its the deeds that come after the prayer. And in another opinion, is that the there are two forms of 7abt, or deeds which are dropped. First, the good deeds, which are dropped with Kufr, and the second is the dropping of bad deeds, which the believer gets, so that he can make use of his hasanat on the day of accountability. [I derived this from fath al baree, sharh sahih al bukhari from the explaination of the hadith mentioned]. In any case, the ahadith which are mentioned, provides us insight to the importance of asr prayer in specific, and a *clear warning to the one who delays it intentionally* or abandons it**. One should be aware that this is not a joking matter since prayer is the most importat aspect of our faith after understanding tawheed. This hadith speaks to the aforementioned people of carelessness that the matter is so serious that it might bring wrath of Allah upon them but before that, they might have their deeds dropped, because they've ignored Allah, and chose to live a life away from worship and obedience. wasalam o 'alykum warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.

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Abu-Dalha Account Disabled Status: Offline Posts: 43 Reputation: 23 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Aug 2005 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: 'Asr - 09-25-2005 Assallama Alaikum brother JazakAllah for the hadith.Yes,if one forgets then he/she isn't accounted to it,but if they are aware and still decide to not pray Asr then all of his hasanat's will perish and his sayiats will increase.Even if he's a good muslim.I don't get it how are you going to be called a good muslim if you delibrately put off prayers such as asr.