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Question Missing Asr Prayer - 09-10-2005


Narrated by Abu Al Mahh (Radhiallaho anho):
We were with Buraida in a battle on a cloudy day and he said,
"Offer the 'Asr prayer early as the Prophet (sallallaahu
'alaihi wasallam) said, "Whoever leaves the 'Asr prayer, all
his (good) deeds will be annulled."

Bukhari Vol. 1 : No. 528

What does "all his good deeds will be annulled" mean, does it mean all our good deeds will be wiped out, does it apply to people who miss it once or regularly?

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Allah knows best what the correct answer is to that! Since I don't know, I won't try to answer that. I just thought that I would take the opportunity to add this aya since it is relevant to the topic:

Guard strictly your prayers, and your middle prayer, and stand before Allaah in devoutness. [Soorah al-Baqarah: 238]


Insha Allah, somebody will be able to help



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anyone else come across this hadith before?
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Assalâmu 'alaykum..

Me and 2 other sister a having a discussion, we can't get nowhere, so we need a 4th opinion.. One of us says: If you forget or just don't pray 1 'asr prayer, then every single hasanaat you've earned is deleted and you only got saiyyat left.. Another one of us says: That if you don't pray 'asr, you get as much saiyyat as if you didn't pray 'fajr, dhuhr, maghreb or 'isha, and you get to keep your hasanaat..

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Assalamu Alaikam Waramatuallah Wabarakatu

What is a hasanaat?

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Reward.. When you do something good, you get a reward or a point.. I really don't know how to explain it.. Sorry!
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it can also be called thawab i've heard, or ajar on somali
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warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.

yeh - hasanat means good deed.


The Noble Qur'an Al-Baqarah 2:238


Guard strictly (five obligatory) As*Salawât (the prayers) especially the middle Salât (i.e. the best prayer * 'Asr). And stand before Allâh with obedience [and do not speak to others during the Salât (prayers)].


Sahih Bukhari: Volume 1, Book 10, Number 527:

Allah's Apostle (sal Allah u alai hi wasalam) said, "Whoever misses the 'Asr prayer (intentionally) then it is as if he lost his family and property."


so insha Allah it means if he/she has missed the 'asr prayer intentionally or on purpose, then it is as if he lost his family and property.

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but if a person misses 'asr on purpose, then he/she don't got any hasanaat at all?? i just really gotta be complety sure

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warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.

i'm really not sure ukhti.. i've read that hadith somewhere aswell but if you can get hold of the hadith and its source (where its from) - i can try to look for more information. because right now its really hard because i cant find the hadith either and this way i get less results when i search on the islamic sites. sorry..


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barak allahu fiik ya akhee..

you can find ahadith here: http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah

and this hadith was actually in there:
Volume 1, Book 10, Number 528:
Narrated Abu Al-Mahh:

We were with Buraida in a battle on a cloudy day and he said, "Offer the 'Asr prayer early as the Prophet said, "Whoever leaves the 'Asr prayer, all his (good) deeds will be annulled."


i just don't get it.. if a person is really good muslim his entire life.. i mean, a really really good muslim, he always lower his gaze, prays every prayer and alot of sunnah prayers too, etc etc, then if he misses 1 'asr prayer when he is like 67, because he was too tired or just lazy, then every hasanaat he had, will be deleted.. sorry, for me it doesn't make sense.. it really don't.. can someone plz explain it to me..
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warahmatulahi wabarakatuh.

jazak Allah khayr for the source.. please be patient, insha Allah i will post it on another forum to see if we get any response. i've tried looking for the full tafseer of it from the net but i cant find none, but others may be able to help out insha Allah.

one thing to keep in mind is that one can pray qadha namaz - which means that they you can catch up on the prayers you may have missed.

some information on qadha namaz

please be patient and insha Allah someone will respond, dont worry - insha Allah i wont ignore this topic.

Allah (swt) knows best.


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As we all know the five daily Prayers are compulsory and from Hadith we can read that the difference between the Muslim and the Kaafir, is the Salat.

Let us say that you forgot to pray 'Asr, and you realise after the time is up, or you overslept to the time of Maghirib and forgot to pray 'Asr, such forgetfulness may be forgiven my Allah, Inshah'Allah, but as soon as you realise, it is an obligation to rush to Salat in Haste and still seek forgiveness in Allah as one may sin without knowing.

If one intentionally leaves 'Asr till after the time is expired has sinned. Such a person must still make up the Salat, but to turn in full repentance to Allah and seek His love and Mercy. One must also add extra acts of worship in seeking forgiveness, through optional prayers, increased charity etc, as the acts of charity blot out the sins of Adam, as long as the intention is for Allah alone, and to seek His Mercy and Love through such actions.

If one deliberately does not pray 'Asr, while making other Salat, this in itself is unacceptable in the eyes of Allah.

It is an act of Kufr, to make 4 out of 5 Salat only, or 3 out of 5 Salat only etc.

One cannot pray with Khus'u (concentration) in their heart, or with true love towards their maker when choosing what Salat to do and what not to do. We are told what to do, so we do it without questioning our Creator.

Leaving out any Prayer, be it Fajr, Thuhur, 'Asr, Maghirib, or 'Ishah negates ones Islam as stated from Authentic Hadith regarding the difference between a Kaafir and a Muslim through Salat.

Therefore we conclude, in order for your Shahada to be stamped upon your Book of Records, one needs to avoid the nullifiers of Islam, and one such nullifier is to not perform the Salat, or a part of the Salat that are Fard.


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Let us say that you forgot to pray 'Asr, and you realise after the time is up, or you overslept to the time of Maghirib and forgot to pray 'Asr, such forgetfulness may be forgiven my Allah, Inshah'Allah, but as soon as you realise, it is an obligation to rush to Salat in Haste and still seek forgiveness in Allah as one may sin without knowing.
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There is no sin if one forgets and hence will not sin if he doesn't know.

Allaah (Exalted is He) said:
“And there is no sin on you concerning that in which you made a mistake, except in regard to what your hearts deliberately intend”
[al-Ahzaab 33:5]
“Our Lord! Punish us not if we forget or fall into error”
[al-Baqarah 2:286]

And the Prophet (Peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said:
“My ummah is forgiven for mistakes and forgetfulness and for what they are forced to do.”

A Hasan hadeeth related by Ibn Maajah, and al-Bayhaqee and others.

Imaam an-Nawaawi (May Allaah have mercy on him) has provided an explanation in his 40 hadeeth.

   
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There is no sin if one forgets and hence will not sin if he doesn't know.
Akhie, we may sin without knowing, we seek forgiveness no matter what. We are ordered to seek forgiveness in what we know and what we do not know.

Concerning forgetfulness. If one is having fun or excess enjoyment or indulging in another form of sin that lead to such forgetfulness, then such a person may be held to account for such actions that lead to such person forgetting the Salat.

If forgetfulness is genuine without the result of certain bad actions then it is forgiven by Allah Inshah'Allah.

Remember Akhie if one forgets genuinely , it is the action of the pious and Tabi'een, to seek forgiveness no matter what. This is the point I was trying to put across.


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