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    Default Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    say this is very nice of bro Aadil-- Genghis you might really want to take him up on his offer?-- say during Ramadan if you are not quite ready yet? what better time to reconnect with your umma, than on the most holiest of months? It will give time for you to get past your sensitivities and work through some of these emotions and start afresh insha'Allah.. I can't foresee this as a bad thing at all...


    you wore your heart on your sleeve and that isn't something to be ashamed of, it is human..


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    Default Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    ...whoops.... u guys replied before i did... so my reply seems outa place...


    oh well!

    ...

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    Default Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    Quote Originally Posted by ghengis View Post
    whatever happened to the ummah... i never thought islamic people would allow stragglers on the edge of society to exist....

    what happened to welcome... we are one ummah... we feel pain when you get hurt... yeah right....

    i am grateful for all the comments and invitations... but i cant believe people like me exist....

    isolated ones... i bet there are actually loads of us...... this is not good. its a social ill.
    isolation is a western disease.
    that it seems islam has caught..... maybe cos we are living in this west... who knows.

    lonely fragmented individuals that have no home. i think i am a refugee.

    yeah. thats it. i'm a refugee.



    you don't think we all feel like lonely refugees at times? you don't think that even the Prophet PBUH also felt this way?




    Surah 93: Ad-Duha st1\:*{behavior:url(#ieooui) }
    Muhammad Asad
    AD-DUHA (THE BRIGHT MORNING HOURS)
    THE NINETY-THIRD SURAH
    Total Verses: 11
    MECCA PERIOD

    Introduction

    IT IS SAID that after surah 89 (Al-Fajr) was revealed, some time elapsed during which the Prophet did not receive any revelation, and that his opponents in Mecca taunted him on this score, saying, "Thy God has forsaken and scorned thee!" - whereupon the present surah was revealed. Whether or not we accept this somewhat doubtful story, there is every reason to assume that the surah as such, although in the first instance addressed to the Prophet, has a far wider purport: it concerns - and is meant to console - every faithful man and woman suffering from the sorrows and bitter hardships which so often afflict the good and the innocent, and which sometimes cause even the righteous to question God's transcendental justice.

    IN THE NAME OF GOD, THE MOST GRACIOUS, THE DISPENSER OF GRACE:

    1) CONSIDER the bright morning hours,

    (2) and the night when it grows still and dark.*

    * The expression "bright morning hours" apparently symbolizes the few and widely-spaced periods of happiness in human life, as contrasted with the much greater length of "the night when it grows still and dark", i.e., the extended periods of sorrow or suffering that, as a rule, overshadow man's existence in this world (cf. 90 : 4). The further implication is that, as sure as morning follows night, God's mercy is bound to lighten every suffering, either in this world or in the life to come - for God has "willed upon Himself the law of grace and mercy" (6:12 and 54).

    (3) Thy Sustainer has not forsaken thee, nor does He scorn thee:*

    *Sc., ''as the thoughtless might conclude in view of the suffering that He has willed thee to bear".

    (4) for, indeed, the life to come will be better for thee than this earlier part [of thy life]!

    (5) And, indeed, in time will thy Sustainer grant thee [what thy heart desires], and thou shalt be well-pleased.

    (6) Has He not found thee an orphan, and given thee shelter?*

    *Possibly an allusion to the fact that Muhammad was born a few months after his father's death, and that his mother died when he was only six years old. Apart from this, however, every human being is an "orphan" in one sense or another, inasmuch as everyone is "created in a lonely state" (cf. 6:94), and "will appear before Him on Resurrection Day in a lonely state" (19:95).

    (7) And found thee lost on thy way, and guided thee?

    (8) And found thee in want, and given thee sufficiency?

    (9) Therefore, the orphan shalt thou never wrong,

    (10) and him that seeks [thy] help shalt thou never chide,*

    *The term sa'il denotes" literally, "one who asks", which signifies not only a "beggar" but anyone who asks for help in a difficult situation, whether physical or moral, or even for enlightenment.

    (11) and of thy Sustainer's blessings shalt thou [ever] speak.*

    *Sc., "rather than of thy suffering".







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    Default Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(


    It is good you are asking for advice and this alone can help you integrate with community.If you need help the community can help you and vice versa.

    SOURCE:http://www.ezsoftech.com/stories/mis45.asp#teamwork

    Maybe this story will help:


    A Lion who held all the beasts of the surrounding in subjection, and was always in the habit of making raids upon them to snap and kill any of them as he required for his daily food. It lasted very long until the beasts took counsel together and all agreed to deliver him one of their company each day. They thought that it would satisfy the Lion's hunger, and as a result, he would cease to harm them by his continual attacks.

    The Lion was at first unwilling to trust them and seemed not to believe such words-thus he went on by remarking that he would prefer to rely on his effort. But, by being serious on their decision, the beasts succeeded in persuading Lion that he would do well to trust them and accept the free offerings.

    Having carried the suggestion, the beasts continued for sometime to perform their engagement sending each day a certain friend of theirs to the Lion to devour.

    Once it happened to be the turn of a Hare to be delivered up as a victim to the Lion; but before long he requested the others to let him practice device. The friends mocked him, asking how such a silly beast as he could pretend to outwit the Lion. The Hare assured them that the wisdom only belonged to Allah (SWT), and that was He who might choose weak things to confound the strong. In the end they consented to let him try his luck.

    The Hare took slowly his way to the Lion, and found him roaring in anger. In excuse for his being late Hare invented that he along with another Hare had set out together to appear before the Lion, but a strange strong Lion had seized the next Hare and carried him off into his resting place in a ditch. On hearing the pitiful remarks of the Hare the Lion was exceeding wroth, and commanded the Hare to show him the foe who had trespassed on his area. Pretending to be afraid of the second Lion, the Hare got on the present Lion to ride to the destiny upon his back, and directed him to a well. On looking down the well, the Lion saw in the water the reflection of himself and of the Hare on his back. Quite in rage, he thought that it was the strong enemy of his with the stolen Hare; he plunged down into the well to attack him.

    From that moment, not only the Hare, but all his beast-friends were released by their wise consolation - which is based on Surah Shura, of the Noble Qur'an: "And those who respond to their Lord and keep up prayer, and their rule is to take counsel among themselves, and who spend out of what We have given them." Noble Qur'an (42:38)

    Since the principle of mutual consultation ("Shura") is mandatory, it is a Muslim's fundamental right, as well as responsibility, to participate in as many aspects of the community's life as possible.


    Reveal Islamic Stories:
    http://islamicreminders.com




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    Default Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    Assalamu Alaikum,

    I spent many years moping that people at the masjid were excluding me, especially during Ramadan. At iftars, people tended to bunch off based on language group and would chat away in arabic or urdu, leaving me sitting quietly by myself.

    However, one day I decided to stop moping and feeling sorry for myself and just start being friendly. SubhanAllah, it worked! I initiate the salaams, I initiate the hugs and kisses, I initiate the how are you, alhamdulilah, blah blah blah. After awhile, people got to know me and would start the salaams when they saw me.

    I'm not really the most social person in the world either - I prefer the internet to real life most of the time - but even having someone to exchange salams with made going to the masjid a lot happier event.

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    Default Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    Quote Originally Posted by squiggle View Post
    lol I need to pass my test too in the summer!! I'm so crap at reverse parking and reverse round the bend though

    we'll have to link up sometime though defo if you pass before august I know a wicked 2 day conference that's going to be taking place. We could go to it, people like sheikh salem al amry, asim al hakeem, dr bilal phillips, and yahya ibrahim gonna be there if your interested let me know.

    You could come 2 ghengis

    is this in leicester uni? because every year you get muslims across UK coming to stay for this 3 day conference and its literally up my road. last year salem al amry came and some others

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    Default Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    thanks bro... quality surah...

    u guys have reinforced in me to turn to allah and the quran.

    for reassurance and guidance... thanks...

    the quran is a healing

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    Default Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    shura is mandatory........... thanks.

    i have a role in this to play.


    (just having a bad day people....) thanks

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    Default Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    I'd say sis Gossamers reply was at its best...and I'd also like to add that it's not Islam that has caught this disease, but Muslims. Islam is perfect and won't change. If they dont appreciate you and greet you as they should, then the problem lies within themself and ultimately w/e u do, u do for Allah. Be nice, smile, do all the the things uwould as a muslim regardless of what they do because your reward is with Allah.



    *Without Allah, without Islam, life would be meaningless. If I've ever learned patience, it's because of this. Alhamdulillah...*

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    Default Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    wow.

    being a proper muslim is so difficult. supreme behavioural control, emotional control, character control....

    destroying your desires... your need to be wanted, to be socially accepted etc.

    gossamer gave me a good talking too.
    gossamer u did good. thanks.
    inshallah i will learn that surah tonight!!! all nighter. inshallah!

    it will be my first long surah to commit to memory!

    ...and yes it is long.... but we gotta start somewhere.

    allah be praised!!!!

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    Default Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    ^^ Of course, no one is perfect. We all strive to and InshaAllah thats what counts.

    All the best bro.


    *Without Allah, without Islam, life would be meaningless. If I've ever learned patience, it's because of this. Alhamdulillah...*

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    Default Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    Quote Originally Posted by ghengis View Post
    wow.

    being a proper muslim is so difficult. supreme behavioural control, emotional control, character control....

    destroying your desires... your need to be wanted, to be socially accepted etc.

    gossamer gave me a good talking too.
    gossamer u did good. thanks.
    inshallah i will learn that surah tonight!!! all nighter. inshallah!

    it will be my first long surah to commit to memory!

    ...and yes it is long.... but we gotta start somewhere.

    allah be praised!!!!



    there is no secret to being a good muslim, like all arts and sciences must be learned one day at a time, and take a life time process to perfect, it isn't mere schooling, it is experience and an acquisition of life long wisdom.

    there is no point of being perfect in one day, no one is perfect, only Allah swt and he know of our condition..

    here is one of my favorite ahadith, I have taken the liberty to translate it:


    إن هذا الدين متين فأوغل فيه برفق ولا تبغض إلى نفسك عبادة الله فإن المنبت لا أرضا قطع ولا ظهرا أبقى)
    أخرجه أحمد من حديث أنس والبيهقي من حديث جابر


    And Rasoul Allah PBUH said “This religion, 'Islam' is strong/vast, so, learn with ease, and don’t ever reduce the importance of a worship to Allah” and he gave an example of a traveler who spend days on his journey abusing the horse i.e beating it to get to his destination faster, at the end he didn’t achieve his goal by getting to his destination, and even worse his mode of transport gave out (died) from the abuse (so he acheived nothing) ...(Isnad: Ahmad, Anas, Baheeqi, Jaber)

    in other words learn all you can but take it easy..

    and Allah swt knows best


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    Default Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    here is a transliteration of suret ad-duha for your memorization tonight insha'Allah, it is only 11 small verses with tremendous meaning and consolation:

    1. Wa Ađ-Đuĥá
    2. Wa Al-Layli 'Idhā Sajá
    3. Mā Wadda`aka Rabbuka Wa Mā Qalá
    4. Wa Lal'ākhiratu Khayrun Laka Mina Al-'Ūlá
    5. Wa Lasawfa Yu`ţīka Rabbuka Fatarđá
    6. 'Alam Yajidka Yatīmāan Fa'āwá
    7. Wa Wajadaka Đāllāan Fahadá
    8. Wa Wajadaka `Ā'ilāan Fa'agh
    9. Fa'ammā Al-Yatīma Falā Taqhar
    10. Wa 'Ammā As-Sā'ila Falā Tanhar
    11. Wa 'Ammā Bini`mati Rabbika Faĥaddith


    http://www.guidedways.com/chapter_di...&translator=16


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    Default Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    Muslims and islam are two different things unfortuanately.

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    Default Re: i dont feel welcome at the mosque :(

    Quote Originally Posted by ghengis View Post
    i'm a bloke.

    c'mon people!!! positive reinforcement!!!!

    i need it.

    shaitan attacks the lone sheep......... thats a good enough reason to go to the mosque.

    but i need more....

    70 * more prayer blessings too....

    but i am really not wanting to integrate, i dont want to get to know these people. i may be muslim just like them but i feel worlds apart...

    just give me reasons to go. i dont care about socializing.
    Demanding people to do things for you is not the way to go.

    Get into groups with them, read books with them, play games with them (Chess, Checkers, Monoply?).



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