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    Salaam,

    In my country, Sweden, midsummer is a big cultural event with a lot of common activities such as eating certain food (strawberries), although I don't eat what is haraam. I have already declared that I am not going to celebrate a non-islamic event, but am I allowed to great others with "Happy midsummer" as the tradition is?

    Thanks for your advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azrael View Post
    Salaam,

    In my country, Sweden, midsummer is a big cultural event with a lot of common activities such as eating certain food (strawberries), although I don't eat what is haraam. I have already declared that I am not going to celebrate a non-islamic event, but am I allowed to great others with "Happy midsummer" as the tradition is?

    Thanks for your advice.
    May be others can give more correct and detailed advices. But I don't think there is a problem in celebrating traditional events in your country, if they don't contain something haram or bida'ah (invent some activity and add it to islam), or something from other religions (like christmas). If it's just non religious tradition and without haram activities, then it's ok. Wa Allahu Aalam.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marwen View Post
    . But I don't think there is a problem in celebrating traditional events in your country, if they don't contain something haram or bida'ah (invent some activity and add it to islam), .
    yes l say as marwen as that corrct

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    Default Re: Midsummer coming up

    yes, it's true,but in the same way show our great Islamic manners to them as you can every moment,thanks for observing your religion orders.Allah is with you,

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    According to what I have been taught in school.

    You are to greet them in the national days that the country has. For example independence day or any such. We are to greet back on their religious days and I think greet them I'm not sure on this part. But we are not to take part in their religious days like Christmas. I hope my brothers here will make it more clearer.

    All the best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by marwen View Post
    But I don't think there is a problem in celebrating traditional events in your country, if they don't contain something haram or bida'ah (invent some activity and add it to islam)
    If it is something which occurs at the same time every year and you celebrate it, then wouldn't that in itself be bidah?

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    I dont see what's the big deal if it's not religious? Who doesn't love strawberries? Just think of "midsummer" as a way to thank Allah for the blessings he has provided that happen midsummer such as beautiful weather, fruit, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dagless View Post
    If it is something which occurs at the same time every year and you celebrate it, then wouldn't that in itself be bidah?
    bidah is something which is done in the name of islam (like celebrating the birthday of the prophet peace and blessing upon him), it's dangerous because it's considered as addition to islam, as if islam was originally incomplete or incorrect.

    If it has nothing to do with islam : just celebrating ordinary annual events (midsummer, festivals, ...) it's not considered as bidah. Wallahu aalam.

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    Default Re: Midsummer coming up

    bid'ah (innovation) in ibadah (acts of worships) is banned, but bid'ah in other aspects of life is allowed.

    And I don't think celebration of summer (such as eating strawberries and exchanging pleasantries with neighbors) is ibadah, as long as we don't give it any importance other than what it actually is. The danger is if we consider it as something important, such as what christians did by elevating pagan holidays into religious holidays or as what some muslims do by holding religious events which involve ibadah to celebrate the birth of prophet Muhammad SAW.

    I could be wrong though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by naidamar View Post
    The danger is if we consider it as something important, such as what christians did by elevating pagan holidays into religious holidays or as what some muslims do by holding religious events which involve ibadah to celebrate the birth of prophet Muhammad SAW.

    I could be wrong though.
    cant ibaadah on rasulullahs birthday just be thought of as nawafil? if i choose to read an extra nafl salah on a certain day you wouldnt call it bid'a. i thought it meant changing already fixed methods of worship.


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    Quote Originally Posted by marwen View Post
    bidah is something which is done in the name of islam (like celebrating the birthday of the prophet peace and blessing upon him), it's dangerous because it's considered as addition to islam, as if islam was originally incomplete or incorrect.

    If it has nothing to do with islam : just celebrating ordinary annual events (midsummer, festivals, ...) it's not considered as bidah. Wallahu aalam.
    If this is the case then why is the celebration of ones own birthday not allowed? It not being an act of worship.
    The festival is a non-Muslim event and celebrated at roughly the same time every year. The same could be said for birthdays, independence day, new years etc. They are "traditional" and not "in the name of Islam".
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    Default Re: Midsummer coming up

    What is Midsummer? is this mostly celebrated in Europe or what?


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    Default Re: Midsummer coming up

    Bro, to be celebrating a day you need to UNDERSTAND what your celebrating. Mid-summers days is a great event for pagans and sorcerers alike as well as fortune tellers. As Europe was mainly a pagan country in history they still have paganistic rituals evident in society such has halloweens here in britian mid-summers in your country. Hope that helps..also i have heard if something comes round omce a year, involves a large gathering then this intiself is a form of worship hence birthdays as well. hope that helps.

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