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| extremophobe_2 Status: Offline Posts: 2,701 Reputation: 13870 Rep Power: 29 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Leeds Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
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Whoever is not convinced by the evidence of Qur’aan will not be convinced by anything..Marriage? "Make the marriage well-known and announce it." | ||
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| extremophobe_2 Status: Offline Posts: 2,701 Reputation: 13870 Rep Power: 29 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Leeds Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | conversion of convenience
__________________Whoever is not convinced by the evidence of Qur’aan will not be convinced by anything..Marriage? "Make the marriage well-known and announce it." |
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| extremophobe_2 Status: Offline Posts: 2,701 Reputation: 13870 Rep Power: 29 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Leeds Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
in any case having a Muslim name or ancestry does not make a Muslim. Name changes and quick conversions are more to do with cultural taboos and a face saving exercise wa salam Whoever is not convinced by the evidence of Qur’aan will not be convinced by anything..Marriage? "Make the marriage well-known and announce it." | |
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| Catholic Status: Offline Posts: 1,217 Reputation: 2546 Rep Power: 16 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kiawah Island, SC Gender: Way of Life: Christian | hola NoName55
__________________i do not change the commandments of God so that you will like me. (but i would prefer it if you liked me). the first and only opinion that matters to me is my Lord's. i love my family very much... but not even my children come before my God... ever... i would prefer to be considered a racist, homophobe, kaffir and any number of bad things and be hated by all humanity than to lose my relationship with God or displease Him in any way. and there is nothing you, nor anyone on this forum, not anyone in the world, nor angels, nor demons, nor any power can say to change that. respect me for it or hate me for it if you so desire... this is about God, not some vendetta against other people. que Dios te bendiga ![]() |
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| Catholic Status: Offline Posts: 1,217 Reputation: 2546 Rep Power: 16 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Kiawah Island, SC Gender: Way of Life: Christian | Quote:
hola, no offense... but that sounds like lust. men were created by God to worship Him and glorify Him... not to pursue pretty girls. women, were created for men to aid men in this task and to glorify God in their way... you should look for a girl who will help you do this, not a wilting flower. que Dios te bendiga ![]() | |
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| LI's #1 Sudais Fan Status: Offline Posts: 475 Reputation: 1408 Rep Power: 12 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Locating... Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | my extended family don't care as long as he is muslim. My cousin married an idonesian and my other one a lebense. were somali lol. if someone is muslim and from peru he is better than a non-muslim from any arab country and the whole world. Some people are very picky and thats very annoying. May Allah give you something you never had ever thought of. the best wife inshaAllah |
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| Stranger Status: Offline Posts: 405 Reputation: 3305 Rep Power: 11 Join Date: Jun 2007 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Quote:
I take it you're from america? I've heard about the ridiculously high dowry demand in the US and its interisting because I was having a recent discussing about this with some brothers. They were saying how one brother in the US had to get two jobs just to get enough dowry to get married, somewhere around the figure of $50,000! its absolutly ridiculous if you ask me. Such people seem to have love for the dunya instead of making it easy for their children to complete half their deen. But bro inter-racial marriages have been a long term problem. As much as I would like to get married to a sister outside my community its easier said then done, the parents usually panic and frown upon it for cultural reasons. But my advice would be to take the good from all of this, insh'Allah there is a special muslimah waiting for you and all of those who turned you down might have been better for you because Allah says in the qur'an that you may like something which is bad for you, and you may dislike something which is good for you. Allah is just to His slaves, and this long wait would make you appriceate your future wife even more knowing what you went through before you found your other half. Before you approach a sister remember to pray istikhaara and seek Allahs guidence. After every hardship there is ease, and make lots of du'a for Allah to keep you steadfast while you are single and to bless you with a pious muslimah that will help you make it to jannah insh'Allah. And there is no ease except what Allah makes easy. The Prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم said, “Verily rifq (gentleness) does not exist in something, except that it beautifies it. And it is not taken out of something, except that it harms it.” [Related by Muslim (no. 2592)] | |
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| Khalsa Shall Rule! Status: Offline Posts: 3,176 Reputation: 4811 Rep Power: 23 Join Date: May 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Sikh | Quote:
Bro, this is sad, it really is. I don't think it's just a Muslim thing, many white Sikh converts in the USA, and they too experience such bigotry and racism (which it is quite frankly!) The thing is, these converts are MORE Sikh than those that are born into it, they pray, they abide by the Khalsa code of conduct. But still they are frowned upon!! I heard once, that at Hajj, (where one should attend without any malice, any hatred for others, in a Khalas state (Pure) in mind and thought) and somebody said that the Arabian Muslims were looking at the white converts in disgust, like 'what are they doing here' kind of thing, and they didn't pay any attention to it and resumed what they were doing. This is the humilty that they show, for Allah belongs to all, and not just those that are born into that religion. My point is, Allah is happy with you, and as you're following him, he has your affairs in his hands now. Keep that chin up, and it'll all fall into place bro. Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh (The Pure Ones belong to God, Victory belongs to God) Ėk Gusā Alhu Mėrā The One Lord, the Lord of the World, is my God Allah. Dhan Guru Arjan Dev Mahraaj Ji! Kal Meh Bėḏ Atharbaṇ Hū Nā Kẖuḏā Alhu Bẖa. In the Dark Age of Kali Yuga, the Atharva Veda became prominent; Allah became the Name of God. Dhan Guru Nanak Dev Mahraaj Ji! | |
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| Member Status: Offline Posts: 82 Reputation: 206 Rep Power: 15 Join Date: Feb 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | You're leaVing out a billion Muslims, based on the materialistic beliefs of what 9 Muslim men you've met? I'd advise you to ge out more and meet other potential Muslims before making such a sweeping generalization and creating such a task for your future. I hope you know how difficult it would be to married to a Jewish or Christian woman.Whilst it is allowed. I really hope you know the amount of work you'll have to put in to ensure your children's understanding of Islam is substantive. Given that you're a revert. I think it is best if you marry someone is who's pious and more stronger in deen then yourself,and who will help you and guide you on your new found faith. makes sense? no? “And He provides for him from (sources) he never could imagine. And if any one puts his trust in Allah, sufficient is (Allah) for him. For Allah will surely accomplish his purpose: verily, for all things has Allah appointed a due proportion.”[65:3] |
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| Limited Member Status: Offline Posts: 2 Reputation: 5 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Jan 2008 Way of Life: Undisclosed | Assalamu Alaikum brother, I am sorry to hear about your bad experience when dealing with muslim families. While it is true that many families have this descrimnatory attitude, there are still families who are quite open to the idea of interracial marriages. Whilst I do not necessarily agree with it, I urge you brother to try and understand where they are coming from. Parents always want the best for their children and in particular their daughters. They want to make sure they place them in safe hands and that they do not need to worry about their future Maintaining a successful marriage is hard enough between people who belong to the same culture and are from the same country. This does in no way mean that you can not make a inter-culural succeed. It really depends on the parties involved. Now I think the underlying reason for why arabs for example refuse to give their daughters in marriage to new converts may not because they are racists but because they think arab husbands are a safer option. My mother did object to me marrying new converts because she thought they are new to the faith, and that a few years down the line they may leave Islam. What will happen then, especially if children are involved? Also, the muslim man being the leader of the family should have the necessary islamic knowledge to lead. When the wife is the only source of knowledge, that would definitely create issues. Sometimes the new convert simply reverts to his old life, where does that leave his muslim wife and children? There is also the issue of language barrier. A marriage does not only concern the couple, it is meant to bring the two families together, so this is something else to consider. I am not at all objecting to this type of marriage, I am only being realistic and certainly it is not all black and white. Wassalam |
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| LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 122 Reputation: 37 Rep Power: 4 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: N.E. part of the USA Gender: Way of Life: Undisclosed | Quote:
I'm not a muslim but my husband is, and we have been happily married almost 13 yrs, we have two beautiful children together, A nice home, good educations. We also have our disagreements, financial stress, and everyday problems, but to blame that on different backrounds/culture I have to disagree, because these things happen to everyone at some time or another.. | |
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