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List of media owned by Rupert Murdoch's News Corporation Media Empire:

Filmed Entertainment - News Corporation
20th Century Fox
20th Century Fox Espanol
20th Century Fox Home Entertainment
20th Century Fox International
20th Century Fox Television
Blue Sky Studios
Fox Searchlight Pictures
Fox Studios Australia
Fox Studios LA
Fox Studios Baja
Fox Television Studios

Television - News Corporation
Fox Broadcasting Company
Fox Sports Australia
Fox Television Stations
FOXTEL
STAR

Cable Television owned by News Corporation
Fox Movie Channel
Fox News Channel
Fox Sports Digital
Fox Sports Enterprises
Fox Sports Espanol
Fox Sports Net
Fox Sports World
FUEL
FX
National Geographic Channel
SPEED Channel
Stats, Inc

Direct Broadcast & Satellite Television - News Corporation
BskyB
DIRECTV
FOXTEL
Sky Italia

Magazines - News Corporation
Inside Out
Donna Hay
News America Marketing
Smart Source
The Weekly Standard
Gemstar

Newspapers - News Corporation
Australasian region Newspapers:
Daily Telegraph
Fiji Times
Gold Coast Bulletin
Herald Sun
Newsphotos
Newspix
Newstext
NT News
Post Courier
Sunday Herald Sun
Sunday Mail
Sunday Tasmanian
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The Advertiser
The Australian
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The Mercury
The Sunday Mail
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Weekly Times
United Kingdom region Newspapers:
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News of the World
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The Sunday Times
The Times
Times Education Supplement
Times Higher Education Supplement
Times Literary Supplement
TSL Education
United States region Newspapers:
New York Post

Books - News Corporation
Harper Collins Publishers
- Australia
- Canada
- Childrens Books
- United States
- United Kingdom
Regan Books
Zondervan

Other Investments - News Corporation
MySpace.com Profile
Festival Records
Mushroom Records
National Rugby League - Australia
News Interactive
News Outdoor
Nursery World
Wow I'm impressed beyond words.

I noticed that the list did not include include Dawn and Al Jazeera.

But most of all you give no example of bias.

So the bias is obvious, it is you.

You are so bigoted that you assume all others are bigoted and no Jew would give an honest recount of the news.

You wast to see bias, look in the mirror.
   
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"Water? How can you say such a stupid thing as 'water'?! Where is your PROOF?"
   
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Wilberhum, stop denying. You know Jews control our mass media. Why do you think they spend so much money trying suppress people's freedom of speech. Also, do you ever notice how they use the word anti-semite around. It was interesting, back in the 1980's, the Japanese were bashed and accused of buying up America, but no problems with that bigotry. Only when accuse these weasel Jews of trying to control the media for aultere motives,
does one get smeared and ridiculed. Also, do your research more thoroughly. Many prominent Jews have actually written books attacking their fellow Jews for trying to use the media to brainwash people as well as whip up hysteria for war. There are numerous anti-Zionist voices among the Jewish people who have done this. For example, one has Israel Shahak (deceased), Norman G. Finkelstein, Benjamin Freedman, Noam Chomsky, Michael Hoffman II, Alfred M. Lielenthal, and many others. You unfortunately try to deny reality yourself my dear Wilberhum, but the reality is clearly evident. You only have to get your head out of the gutter and stop watching Jewish Hollywood propaganda,
and then perhaps you will see eye to eye with everything I am saying. When the U.S.S. Maine was blown up, the American government blamed Spain. Now, decades later, it turns out the American government blew up the ship, just so they could engineer a war with Spain. It was conspiricy after all. In the same manner of speaking, you keep attacking this conspiricy of Jews trying to comandeer the world; however, is it any coincidence that most of Bush's advisors are neocon Jews like, Douglas Feith, Eliot Abrams, Richard Perle, and list goes on and on and on.Is it any coincidence that Jews only make 2.5 percent of the population, yet they have a huge power structure in the United States. If you don't believe, read "Jewish Power in America."
   
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wilberhum standing in front of Niagra Falls:

"Water? How can you say such a stupid thing as 'water'?! Where is your PROOF?"
Gee is that your example?

What a stupid statement. How about moving away from the third grade stuff and give me an example.

It is easy to produce childish insults, how about producing some evidence to your baseless statements?
   
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Wilberhum, stop denying. You know Jews control our mass media. Why do you think they spend so much money trying suppress people's freedom of speech. Also, do you ever notice how they use the word anti-semite around. It was interesting, back in the 1980's, the Japanese were bashed and accused of buying up America, but no problems with that bigotry. Only when accuse these weasel Jews of trying to control the media for aultere motives,
does one get smeared and ridiculed. Also, do your research more thoroughly. Many prominent Jews have actually written books attacking their fellow Jews for trying to use the media to brainwash people as well as whip up hysteria for war. There are numerous anti-Zionist voices among the Jewish people who have done this. For example, one has Israel Shahak (deceased), Norman G. Finkelstein, Benjamin Freedman, Noam Chomsky, Michael Hoffman II, Alfred M. Lielenthal, and many others. You unfortunately try to deny reality yourself my dear Wilberhum, but the reality is clearly evident. You only have to get your head out of the gutter and stop watching Jewish Hollywood propaganda,
and then perhaps you will see eye to eye with everything I am saying. When the U.S.S. Maine was blown up, the American government blamed Spain. Now, decades later, it turns out the American government blew up the ship, just so they could engineer a war with Spain. It was conspiricy after all. In the same manner of speaking, you keep attacking this conspiricy of Jews trying to comandeer the world; however, is it any coincidence that most of Bush's advisors are neocon Jews like, Douglas Feith, Eliot Abrams, Richard Perle, and list goes on and on and on.Is it any coincidence that Jews only make 2.5 percent of the population, yet they have a huge power structure in the United States. If you don't believe, read "Jewish Power in America."
Ya the moon is green cheese.

Where is something besides your base less statements?
   
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Default Re: Who Oppresses Women - 12-29-2007

Now, you are really asking for it. What is your problem. It is one thing, if a certain group people have alot of power. Many Italian-Americans have tremendous influence and clout in New York City, because there are alot of Italian-Americans there. However, in the case of Jews, they have power and alot of it. Finkelstein, in his book, "The Holocaust Industry," demonstrates that above all else. Yet they base their power on the principle that everybody else is goyyim (cattle). According to this view, non-Jews are fit to be exploited and manipulated. It says it in their Talmud.

Now, looking at things from that perspective, it comes down to the fact that you are exactly part of that goyyim they are exploiting, which is why you seem to deny the fact that these people have such a huge grip over the American media. I keep on telling you, but you are the one who is playing the fool by not accepting this fact of life. Perhaps, if you were a Palestinian, and maybe you are or not, I don't know; you would probably have different opinion.

I watch alot of left-wing television. Although they don't use the word Jew, they certainly make it clear that the media in the West, particularly in the United States, has a pro-Israeli bias. We've already told you that even Jews expose their own. I just don't understand why you cannot come to the truth.
   
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Now, you are really asking for it. What is your problem. .................
Da Da DA Where is the example?

You go on and on and on yet have no example.

Both you an caroline are just bigots who lack the intellect to see through the conspiracy theories.

I'm done with this third grade debate.

When you provide an example, we can have an intelligent exchange.
   
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<...> to be brainwashed <...>
Mods, can we declare this 'THE MOST USED WORDS FOR 2007' ?
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By today's western (christian) standards Islam does oppress women. It imposes gender roles which result in many inequalities, it forces the hijab, sometimes even the burqa. It seems to me that it sometimes undermines women and underestimates their capabilities.
It gives them some liberties though that western women don't have.
   
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it forces the hijab, sometimes even the burqa.
So what? What's the big deal with wearing a hijjab/burqa? I wear it and i don't feel oppressed or anything. There are reasons for it.
   
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So what? What's the big deal with wearing a hijjab/burqa? I wear it and i don't feel oppressed or anything. There are reasons for it.
It's not oppressive when a woman can chose to wear it. when it's obligatory, it's oppressive.
   
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Gee is that your example?

What a stupid statement. How about moving away from the third grade stuff and give me an example.

It is easy to produce childish insults, how about producing some evidence to your baseless statements?
I give you a list as long as your arm flatly proving an undeniable media monopoly and you call me stupid and demand evidence as though you hadn't been given any.

Then you call ME childish.

   
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I give you a list as long as your arm flatly proving an undeniable media monopoly and you call me stupid and demand evidence as though you hadn't been given any.

Then you call ME childish.

You only proved that you are bias.

You have never provided an evidence of misuse of the news.
   
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On this website you can click on the links and see the actual internal FOX news memos TELLING the reporters WHAT TO SAY and what slant to put on the news:
http://mediamatters.org/items/200407140002


Here is the complete transcript of the exposee "Outfoxed, Rupert Murdoch's War on Journalism":
http://www.outfoxed.org/docs/outfoxed_transcript.pdf

Here is a link to a study done by the Center of American Progress on FOX news bias:
http://www.americanprogress.org/issu...7/b117308.html

Here is the page from FAIRNESS AND ACCURACY IN REPORTING covering Murdoch and Fox news:
http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=19&media_outlet_id=2

Here's a link that proves Murdoch ADMITTED he, through his media, deliberately tried to sway the public in support of the Iraq War:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...35390#17035390

Books:
Manufacturing Consent, or Media Control by Noam Chomsky
The Israel Lobby, Mearshiemer and Walt

just ask and I'll get you more...

"Ownership induced political bias, epitomized by Rupert Murdoch who has frequently been accused of interfering in editorial decision making (McChesny 2004) constitues a relatively obvious and straighforward challenge to the objectivity norm." The Future of Journalism in the Advanced Democracies, Peter J. Anderson and Geoff Ward.

An article in The Guardian:

TV watchdog checks claims of bias on Murdoch channel

* Matt Wells
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o Matt Wells, media correspondent
o The Guardian,
o Thursday May 8 2003

The Murdoch-owned Fox News Channel, whose determinedly patriotic stance during the Iraq conflict brought it critical notoriety but commercial success, is under investigation by television regulators in Britain for alleged bias.

The independent television commission is investigating nine complaints by viewers of the channel, broadcast on Sky Digital satellite, also controlled by Rupert Murdoch.

If the network is found to have breached the ITC's "due impartiality" rules, it could be forced out.

Julian Petley, chairman of the Campaign for Press and Broadcasting Freedom, called on the ITC to act against Fox News: "I'm not in favour of censorship, but Murdoch would like to do with British television news what he has done with newspapers, which is to force people to compete on his own terms.

From here on out, do your own homework.
   
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You only proved that you are bias.

You have never provided an evidence of misuse of the news.

You dont really want a proof!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you need a proof, you would have known that media portray Israelis -who shell unarmed poor people in so called state of palestine with F16 fighters and with heavy bombs- as victims, and those who are called palestinians as terrorists cuz they defend their families against jewish army.

U still dont want any proof?
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