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    Default What we say when we pray


    Assalamu alaikum,

    I have a question about what to say when praying. After I reverted, my husband (who is Indonesian) bought a book so that I could learn how to pray and what it meant. I've also been checking online, and watching videos and reading stuff about the daily prayers, and I'm a bit confused. In my book, after the niyyat comes a part that goes like this:

    Kabirau wal hadulillahi katsirau wasubhanallahi bukrataw waasila inni wajjahtu wajjhiya liladzi-fatharas samawati wal ardlo hanifan musliman wama ana minal musyrikin. Inna sholati wanusuki wamahyaya wamamati lillahi robbil’alamin. Lasyarika lahu wabi dzalika umirtu wa ana minal muslimin.

    But, I've never seen it in any of the videos or online resources (except a couple of Indonesian websites, but I can't read them!)... Can someone explain which way is proper?

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    I see that people are viewing this, but there have been no replies. I'm so confused, can't anyone help me?

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    Walykum Assalam sister

    well never heared this type of thing yet..
    its really very strange to me ...
    these pharse should not be recited as it has not any authentic source

    well one should recite "Sana" first
    then Surah Fatiha (ist surah of Quran)
    and then any one surah complete or three ayats atleast which ever he/she please

    well right now i have to leave but inshALLAH will share with you the complete method of Salat (Prayers).

    Keep me in your prayers
    JazakALLAH

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    One of the best books concerning the salah is Shaykh Albanee's "The Prophet's Prayer Described".

    It gives a concise breakdown of authentic rulings throughout the salah which can be done. You can read it here...

    http://www.qss.org/articles/salah/toc.html

    As for the intention, then it is not pronounced as all acts are by intention.

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    Default Re: What we say when we pray


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    Assalamu alaikum,

    I have a question about what to say when praying. After I reverted, my husband (who is Indonesian) bought a book so that I could learn how to pray and what it meant. I've also been checking online, and watching videos and reading stuff about the daily prayers, and I'm a bit confused. In my book, after the niyyat comes a part that goes like this:

    Kabirau wal hadulillahi katsirau wasubhanallahi bukrataw waasila inni wajjahtu wajjhiya liladzi-fatharas samawati wal ardlo hanifan musliman wama ana minal musyrikin. Inna sholati wanusuki wamahyaya wamamati lillahi robbil’alamin. Lasyarika lahu wabi dzalika umirtu wa ana minal muslimin.

    But, I've never seen it in any of the videos or online resources (except a couple of Indonesian websites, but I can't read them!)... Can someone explain which way is proper?


    Alhumdulillah that Allah Ta'Aala has guided you sister!

    i looked for that transliteration, but i could not find it. this site here has supplications from Husnul Muslim. they are transliterated and you can listen to them. it IS a work in progess, but it should suit your needs for now:

    http://transliteration.org/quran/Du%60a'/menue.htm

    also Kalamullah has this video of Pray as You Have Seen Me Pray:

    http://www.kalamullah.com/new-muslims.html

    it might seem difficult, but In Sha'a Allah, it will come naturally!



    Had the non-believer known of all the Mercy which is in the Hands of Allah, he would not lose hope of entering Paradise, and had the believer known of all the punishment which is present with Allah, he would not consider himself safe from the Hell-Fire
    http://www.muftimenk.co.za/Downloads.html

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    Thank you for the links, they were most helpful. Although I didn't find exactly the version I have (although if you google it, you can find it but the websites are in Indonesian so I don't understand the explanation), I believe that it is an opening do'a, which is optional, right? So, it's not necessary, but it's not wrong if I pray that way, as that is how I was taught and how I remember?

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    so you have already been provided with the link, that will help you inshALLAH.
    JazaALLAH to the brothers who provided these links..
    well sister please make it very clear you cannot add or subtract anything at your option religion is what has already been thought no alteration could be entertain anyhow, i am a born muslim in a muslim country , i have never heared this kind of dua or any optional dua before Fatiha, therefore please never listen to these kind of stuff, moreover options may be allowed but only when provided by the Shariah Authentically.

    wish you a bless journey in your guided life & hereafter.
    keep me in your prayers


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    So remember Me; I will remember you. And be grateful to me and do not deny Me.

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    Thanks again for the advice. I know that I cannot just add or subtract things, which is why I asked here if people know of this part. On the first link provided it has several supplications for at the start of the prayer which includes:

    Wajjahtu Wajhiya Lilladhī Faţara As-Samawāti Wa 'Illārđa Ĥanīfāan Wa Mā 'Anā Mina Al-Mushrikīna, 'Inna Şalātī Wa Nusukī Wa Maĥyāya Wa Mamātī Lillāhi Rabbi Al-`Ālamīna, Lā Sharīka Lahu Wa Bidhalika 'Umirtu Wa 'Anā Mina Al-Muslimīna.

    Which is part of what I was asking about. Just that in the version I was taught there are some words I don't understand before and it is shorter. That is why I am starting to think that it is an optional do'a. Maybe do different schools of thoughts use different do'as?

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    well i have links in urdu & Arabic i also do have bukhari in the same languages but let me found some proper link in english so you may understand better, actually it is very sensitive to search for islamic stuff on net due to the un due spamming it is now really have become very very misleading that is why one should avoid to search there until and unless he/she do not have some authentic source, well once again what we can do is to seek guidance from ALLAH , may ALLAH guide us on the right path.

    no i havnt learnt anything bout this kinda dua in any kind of school of thoughts, actually this is in arabic but yet em really unable to transiltrate it.

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    The second site (http://transliteration.org/quran/Du%60a'/menue.htm) has both the transliteration that I quoted before as well as the Arabic, and the English translation (just go to 'what to say at the start of prayer')... maybe that will help you see what do'a it is? Also, I didn't just find this on the internet (I know it can be hard to know what is true and what is misinformation), but it has come from a book my husband bought me after I reverted.
    Thank you for your efforts in helping me, brother.

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    hmm ...just visited at your link
    they are showing many dua's :s
    well am really unable to understand where these duas have came from
    i request you to please do not go for any dua except...

    This one given on 2nd number
    How perfect You are O Allah, and I praise You. Blessed be Your name, and lofty is Your position and none has the right to be
    here you will recite

    Azzubillah himina shaitan nirajim
    Bissmillah hir-Rehman nir rahim

    after this read ist surah of Quran Surah-e-Fatiha complete

    and then any surah from quran ...complete or atleast three ayats (If short)
    and you also may go for one ayat if it is long enough.

    that is authentic , and also very regular pratice of all the school of thoughts,
    well i will inshALLAH ask scholors about the other duas and will update you accordingly inshALLAH..

    no worries
    May ALLAH bless you
    JazakALLAH sis, now it is being the source my learning too =D
    thanks

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    Sister, I have been reciting the same opening dua "wajjahathu wajihiya..." ever since I started praying.

    Please refer to the book "The Prophet's Prayer" by Shaikh Muhammad Naasir-ud-Deen Al-Albaani.

    The opening supplications are on this link, http://muttaqun.com/prayer/08.html#RTFToC1
    but please refer to the book as well. You can find the dua (wajjahathu..) and its translation in the second point.

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    As an Indonesian, we are also taught to start our pray with that opening dua, which is optional;
    Kabiraw... Etc
    Inni wajjahtu wajjahiyya..etc
    Inna sholaati wa nusuki.. Etc

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    Oh that makes me feel better, to hear that others have also been taught that do'a! Thank you so much for sharing!

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    This is one of the "iftitah" dua, the opening of the shalat, before reading Al Fatihah, that we muslims in Indonesia and Malaysia i think have always been taught:



    Allahu Akbaru kabiraw ,
    walhamdu lillahi kathiraw
    wasubhanallahhi bukratau waasila
    Wajjahtu wajhia lillazi
    fataras sama wati wal ardh
    hanifam muslimaw wama ana minal musyrikin
    Inna solati wanusuki wamahyaya wammamati lillahi rabbil'alamin
    La syarikalahu wabiza lika umirtu wa ana minal muslimin

    In english:
    "Allah is ever greatest, Much praise be to Allah. Glory to Him morning and evening. I turn may face to Him who created the heavens and earth, a pure montheist, in submission , and am not of those who associate others with Him. My prayer, worship, life, and death are for Allah, Lord of the Worlds, who has no partner. Thus I have been commanded, and I am of those who submit."

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    Last edited by syilla; 09-09-2009 at 04:25 AM.




    25:36 And the true servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk the earth with humility and when the ignorant address them, they respond with words of peace.

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    Thank you everyone for sharing. I was starting to worry that I was praying incorrectly, but now I understand that it is a do'a that others use as well. Thank you again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amanda View Post
    Thank you everyone for sharing. I was starting to worry that I was praying incorrectly, but now I understand that it is a do'a that others use as well. Thank you again.

    Might Allah bless u for ur effort to learning how to pray


    So remember Me; I will remember you. And be grateful to me and do not deny Me.

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    ^Ameen

    well we muslim here have always been taught only "Subhana kalla Huma"
    but on your query i asked a Mufti he told me yes there are some "praising words" which on the authority of some mufti/scholor you may recite before Al-hamd but the recomended one is only "Subhan kalla huma" ..Wallahul-ilm

    Moreover sister, i am really very sorry for any inconvinience caused by me.
    thank you for raising this question from which i have learned alot.

    JazakALLAH!.

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