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    Can you pray Isha just before fajr? Like half an hour before it?


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    No..U definetly can't. Coz every prayer has its time.
    "Verily, the prayer is enjoined on the believers at fixed hours." [Al-Qur'an 4:103]

    divide the night into 3 parts and isha' should start by the end of the first third of the night.Here in Ohio we pray Isha around 11:00Pm. But in the winter it is around 9:00pm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taqiyah View Post
    No..U definetly can't. Coz every prayer has its time.
    "Verily, the prayer is enjoined on the believers at fixed hours." [Al-Qur'an 4:103]

    divide the night into 3 parts and isha' should start by the end of the first third of the night.Here in Ohio we pray Isha around 11:00Pm. But in the winter it is around 9:00pm.


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    Salaam,
    Well, in this book I had it said that males should not delay prayer because they should pray in a congregation but it said that females should pray Isha as late as possible, but not after midnight. Dunno if that helps!
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    No, you cannot. Allah has fixed a time for every prayer, and he expects us to perform it at that time unless we have an excuse.

    The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “The time for ‘Isha’ lasts until midnight.”


    Keep in mind that "midnight" does not mean 12 AM. Midnight literally means the middle of the night. So if Isha prayer starts at 9PM and Fajr is at 4 AM, the middle of these two times is 12:30. So, Isha ends at 12:30. Similarly, if Isha starts at 6 PM and Fajr starts at 5AM, then Isha ends at 11:30 PM.

    Strive to perform the prayers on time Inshallah.
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    Enter you among my honored servants!

    And enter you my paradise!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarah999 View Post
    Salaam,
    Well, in this book I had it said that males should not delay prayer because they should pray in a congregation but it said that females should pray Isha as late as possible, but not after midnight. Dunno if that helps!


    Which book is that sis? Ye it helps, anything wud help jazakAllah khair wa barakAllah feekum!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abd'Majid View Post


    Which book is that sis? Ye it helps, anything wud help jazakAllah khair wa barakAllah feekum!

    Some more dalil inshaAllah!!

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    Unfortunately LI does not have a scholar to answer any questions related to fiqh. However you can ask Shaykh Isam Rajab a question here (you'll need to register first). Or visit http://www.islamtoday.com
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    Quote Originally Posted by Far7an View Post


    Unfortunately LI does not have a scholar to answer any questions related to fiqh. However you can ask Shaykh Isam Rajab a question here (you'll need to register first). Or visit http://www.islamtoday.com


    then bro can i just ask what is your understanding of the matter? Do you simply pray at congregation jammah? Do you think it would be accepted if you had prayed just before fajr?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abd'Majid View Post


    then bro can i just ask what is your understanding of the matter? Do you simply pray at congregation jammah? Do you think it would be accepted if you had prayed just before fajr?

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    Wa alaikum asalam warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.

    I chose to pray at the masjid with congregation, since there is nothing stopping me from doing so. Also, if there is an opinion which allows one to pray isha at a later time, I'd prefer to stick with the original time... as it is the safest option.

    I asked Shaykh Salim al-Amry a similar question during one of his QnA sessions, and he said it is makrooh to pray isha after midnight. And Allaah knows best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Far7an View Post
    Wa alaikum asalam warahmatullahi wabarakatuh.

    I chose to pray at the masjid with congregation, since there is nothing stopping me from doing so. Also, if there is an opinion which allows one to pray isha at a later time, I'd prefer to stick with the original time... as it is the safest option.

    I asked Shaykh Salim al-Amry a similar question during one of his QnA sessions, and he said it is makrooh to pray isha after midnight. And Allaah knows best.


    May Allah reward u! JazakALlah khair wa barakAllah feek!

    I hav the answer i was looking for Alhamdullilah!
    i'll stik to praying it half an hour after the adhan or in congregation inshaAllah!



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    salam

    why half an hour bro? is there a reason for that? i thought one of the most liked deeds by Allah swt was to do the prayers on time?
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    i dont think isha can be prayed right before fajr, there's actually a definition for hwen Isha ends btu i cant remember

    cheese, the prophet use to pray isha really late, infact in one of the hadith they'd pray isha when the companions started almost getting sleepy. I think tis because (only for isha) when you pray it later, its kinda like doing qiyam, so you prob get more reward.

    but otherwise yeh ur right.. praying on time for the rest of the prayers is the best (especially asr)
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    Quote Originally Posted by cheese View Post
    salam

    why half an hour bro? is there a reason for that? i thought one of the most liked deeds by Allah swt was to do the prayers on time?



    umm... i do that coz i wanna make sure i pray it wen its actually due and sumtimes i get a bit worried that the adhan goes off a bit early

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    Those of you who have been observing the prayer times (and rulings on them) may have heard about the problems with working out Isha and fajr times in the northern hemisphere; starting from the last month. The usual time of Isha has become impossible in several places around the world, so the timing has been replaced by a new calculation system; which keeps the time closely after Maghrib for Isha; and putting fajr time slightly forward. This system was introduce when the first calculation last month for summer time produced a time clash of Isha and Fajr. The reason was basically something about a slight change in the earth's magnetic field, which has been going on for the past three years; when the field of gravity on earth was interrupted by solar flares. Whether the change is temporary or permanent is not yet in the grasp of any scientific authority.

    If you have a local mosque prayer timetable; please stick to those timings, even if you don't think they are very accurate, and keep your duty to Allah. Allah is All-Forgiving, Merciful.

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