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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony View Post
    ...If Muhammad (pbuh) was the last prophet, why is it Jesus (pbuh) that will return ?)
    I didn't read all posts...Sorry, if it is a repeat...

    According to Ahmad Deedat in one of his video when he was in Birmingham(?)...(Note: according to a sheik, Mr.Deedat is not an Islamic Scholar but has a vast biblical knowledge)

    "Allah has completed our Deen...
    Muslim should not wait anybody to come to give a guidance...
    The reason why Jesus (pbuh) will return as per accordance to hadiths...
    While according to their book:
    To tell them: "Depart from me, ye who do iniquity!" (I forgot this part)

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    This really good question. I have been pondering this question for some time. Alhamdulilah someone had already asked

    I have asked my cousin, she told me this is because Jesus (peace be upon him) was raised to heaven by Allah. So Jesus peace be upon him will return to die as a human.

    But another friend of mine told me Jesus peace be upon him will return to settle the dispute. He, Jesus peace be upon him will tell the Christian that he is not the son of God. He will guide other people to Islam.

    Wa alaykum salam peace KNX

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristIsGod View Post
    ..Mohammad can't leave hell to return to earth .

    If u want to bash the last Prophet pbuh , pl go to any Christian site . Remember , this is an Islamic forum.

    May God guide you as He guided His slave and messenger Jesus pbuh.


    "My Father is greater than I." John 14:28

    Christ will never be proud to reject to be a slave to God .....holy Quran, chapter Women , 4: 172

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristIsGod View Post
    Jesus died upon Calvary's Cross so your cousin is deluded.
    Jesus will not claim his religion is false nor will he denounce his Sonship.

    The answer to the topic is simple.
    Mohammad can't leave hell to return to earth and Jesus will return in the Second Coming to make a 1000 year Kingdom here on Earth with believers.

    Is that how you represent your Christian's attitudes here? throwing flames? Are you telling us we are going to Hell?

    I think, perhaps you need alot of medicine to calm your mind.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristIsGod View Post
    .. Anyone who denies Jesus and hates God will burn in hell.

    It's a must for Muslims to respect Jesus pbuh and submitted ourselves to God Almighty.

    U need to learn about Islam more. Till then , try to remove hatred from ur heart. May God bless u.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristIsGod View Post
    Anyone who denies Jesus
    We muslims actually love jesus pbuh. If you study your bible a little bit instead of listening to your priests, you will find that the lives of good muslims resemblance very closely the live of Jesus pbuh. That's because christianity totally abandoned the life and examples provided by Jesus pbuh.

    and hates God will burn in hell.
    I totally agree with you. Those who worship others than God will burn in hell.

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    Very good question. And I will put it simply, I am not speaking for all Christians, but mearly to my own study of Christianity.
    %70 of Christians don’t even know who Muhammad (pbuh) is
    %10 Don’t believe he is a Prophet
    %10 Don’t know what Islam is about
    %10 doesn’t want to believe Jesus is not their savior. (This would destroy Christianity in a whole) It’s the entire basis of Christianity. If Muhammad (pbuh) was the last prophet, Christians are in a lot of trouble.
    But mainly they don’t believe that Muhammad was a prophet. This is why your neighbor I saying Muhammad (pbuh) was not the last prophet.
    I would approach your neighbor with this question; if Jesus is the savior of all humanity; show this to me in the Bible? Show me where it says that He is the last prophet. Show me where it denies Muhammad was a prophet. If Jesus (pbuh) is the son of God (and this is the best one) show me where in the Bible it clearly and explicitly states that Jesus (pbuh) himself claims that he is GOD?
    I have been trying to actually find this myself(thus being the reason of my consideration of Islam) I have found multiple verses and passages where someone has claimed he says he is the son of God, but most of the time he references his father, not in much difference as a Catholic calling the priest “father”. Allah is my father as well. He is the only reason for our existence.
    We as Christians make the mistake in believing only what we are taught, never taking in consideration the views and beliefs of other faiths, when I say faiths, I only mean Islam. Other faiths believe in multiple God’s when we know there is ONLY ONE.
    I’m sorry if I drifted of topic here but I guess it’s because I am looking for the truth as well, and am waiting to hear it. I have been a sincere believer my whole life. Plus I don’t ever drink alcohol and or eat pork (some things in the Bible most Christians don’t follow) and yes it is in the Bible. But now I question this belief. Many give me the answer “ don’t, question it, just go on faith” I am not sure that is a good enough answer for me now.
    I can’t wait for the day I get to use my talents to profess to all, the TRUTH. I have been witnessing for years and still……I don’t know if what I profess is truth, and I sure do not want to stand in front of God with the wrong answer.
    I would say “good luck” but I don’t believe in luck. Allah gives us the ability to speak and His prophets tell us what to say.
    Let me know what your neighbor answers with.
    God be with you.

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    Oh I also forgot that the Bible states that Jesus(pbuh) was resurected after His death, and was taken back to his father. No other Prophet claims this. The Bible says this

    1 Corinthians 15 (New International Version)

    1 Corinthians 15
    The Resurrection of Christ
    1Now, brothers, I want to remind you of the gospel I preached to you, which you received and on which you have taken your stand. 2By this gospel you are saved, if you hold firmly to the word I preached to you. Otherwise, you have believed in vain.
    3For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance[a]: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4that he was buried, that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures, 5and that he appeared to Peter,[b] and then to the Twelve. 6After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep. 7Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles, 8and last of all he appeared to me also, as to one abnormally born.

    9For I am the least of the apostles and do not even deserve to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. 10But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace to me was not without effect. No, I worked harder than all of them—yet not I, but the grace of God that was with me. 11Whether, then, it was I or they, this is what we preach, and this is what you believed.

    The Resurrection of the Dead
    12But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. 15More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. 16For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. 17And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins. 18Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. 19If only for this life we have hope in Christ, we are to be pitied more than all men.
    20But Christ has indeed been raised from the dead, the firstfruits of those who have fallen asleep. 21For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive. 23But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him. 24Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. 25For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. 26The last enemy to be destroyed is death. 27For he "has put everything under his feet."[c] Now when it says that "everything" has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. 28When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all.

    29Now if there is no resurrection, what will those do who are baptized for the dead? If the dead are not raised at all, why are people baptized for them? 30And as for us, why do we endanger ourselves every hour? 31I die every day—I mean that, brothers—just as surely as I glory over you in Christ Jesus our Lord. 32If I fought wild beasts in Ephesus for merely human reasons, what have I gained? If the dead are not raised,
    "Let us eat and drink,
    for tomorrow we die."[d] 33Do not be misled: "Bad company corrupts good character." 34Come back to your senses as you ought, and stop sinning; for there are some who are ignorant of God—I say this to your shame.

    The Resurrection Body
    35But someone may ask, "How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come?" 36How foolish! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. 37When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else. 38But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body. 39All flesh is not the same: Men have one kind of flesh, animals have another, birds another and fish another. 40There are also heavenly bodies and there are earthly bodies; but the splendor of the heavenly bodies is one kind, and the splendor of the earthly bodies is another. 41The sun has one kind of splendor, the moon another and the stars another; and star differs from star in splendor.
    42So will it be with the resurrection of the dead. The body that is sown is perishable, it is raised imperishable; 43it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body.
    If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body. 45So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being"[e]; the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. 46The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. 47The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven. 48As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the man from heaven, so also are those who are of heaven. 49And just as we have borne the likeness of the earthly man, so shall we[f] bear the likeness of the man from heaven.

    50I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable. 51Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed— 52in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. 53For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."[g]
    55"Where, O death, is your victory?
    Where, O death, is your sting?"[h] 56The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. 57But thanks be to God! He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.

    58Therefore, my dear brothers, stand firm. Let nothing move you. Always give yourselves fully to the work of the Lord, because you know that your labor in the Lord is not in vain.

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    That was totally uncalled for and NOT Christian belief! Hold your tounge, you have been given no right by God to judge others. Where in the Bible do you have support for these claims??? Find them and post them.

    Do not speek for all Christians on your own behalf, when it contradicts what I know and believe!

    Are you just here to stir things up?

    God be with you my friend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Humbler_359 View Post
    Is that how you represent your Christian's attitudes here? throwing flames? Are you telling us we are going to Hell?

    I think, perhaps you need alot of medicine to calm your mind.

    They have pills for people like him.

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    I am Shia, and in our believes, in the future a grandchildren of Mohammad(puh), who is called Mahdi(sa) , will return and with the help of Jesus and other real muslims and chiristians, fight with injustice and corruption of the world...
    this Theory is hardly popular in Shia, and if you are intrested you can search about it.
    ofcourse if you are not one of them who considers Shia as moshreks. ;)
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imam_Mahdi
    فی امان اللله

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    Quote Originally Posted by naidamar View Post
    We muslims actually love jesus pbuh. If you study your bible a little bit instead of listening to your priests, you will find that the lives of good muslims resemblance very closely the live of Jesus pbuh. That's because christianity totally abandoned the life and examples provided by Jesus pbuh.



    I totally agree with you. Those who worship others than God will burn in hell.
    I dont understand where he got "those who don't believe in God will go to hell"? Of course that is true.

    Who here doesn't believe in God?

    He is right in that aspect...at least one good point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Italianguy View Post
    I dont understand where he got "those who don't believe in God will go to hell"? Of course that is true.

    Who here doesn't believe in God?

    He is right in that aspect...at least one good point.
    No priest would would teach that either.
    Kep in mind Catholics are the only ones with priests.

    Protestants have preachers, sort of like an Imaam. They only teach the word.

    God bless.

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    سلام
    I am Shia, and we believe that (according to some proofs) in the future, one of the grand children of Mohammad(pbuh),is called Mahdi(sa), will return and with the help of Jesus and other muslims and chiristians , they will save the world from injustice and corruption and they will purify all the humankinds
    you can search yourself
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mahdi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Italianguy View Post
    No priest would would teach that either.
    Kep in mind Catholics are the only ones with priests.

    Protestants have preachers, sort of like an Imaam. They only teach the word.

    God bless.
    that not really true... my mother used to make me go to a christien non-denominational church and not only did they guy tell me i was going to H*ll (point blank) but he actually locked me in the church... i had to call my mom... (she was in the other room with the adults) he wouldnt let me leave...

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