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| be passionate! Status: Offline Posts: 934 Reputation: 4958 Rep Power: 10 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | "Have not those who disbelieve known that the heavens and the earth were of one piece, then We parted them, and we made every living thing of water? Will they not then believe?" (49:10)
__________________أَوَلَمْ يَرَ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا أَنَّ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالْأَرْضَ كَانَتَا رَتْقًا فَفَتَقْنَاهُمَا وَجَعَلْنَا مِنَ الْمَاء كُلَّ شَيْءٍ حَيٍّ أَفَلَا يُؤْمِنُونَ Subhanallah. Yet another proof that Allah alone is the author of the Quran, and knows things no human 1400 years ago could have known. and the psychosis begins. a photographer, check out my work. |
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| AllahIsWithDaPatient Status: Offline Posts: 12,101 Reputation: 34197 Rep Power: 69 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Jus restin..as a traveller..in the shade of a tree..until I reach my destination = Jannah (Ameen)... Way of Life: Muslim | ^ Why do you insist on contradicting everything Islaam says?! Even when you know it's true?! |
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| Agnostic revert Status: Offline Posts: 1,461 Reputation: 3711 Rep Power: 10 Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Way of Life: Agnostic | Quote:
I think you know the verse is nothing special, it's just that you're a muslim and want it to be special, but deep inside you know the truth. Does this sound arrogant? | |
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| AllahIsWithDaPatient Status: Offline Posts: 12,101 Reputation: 34197 Rep Power: 69 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Jus restin..as a traveller..in the shade of a tree..until I reach my destination = Jannah (Ameen)... Way of Life: Muslim | ^ Yep it does. 1400 years ago, how would have people known everything was made from water? Unless a supernatural source told them? |
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| be passionate! Status: Offline Posts: 934 Reputation: 4958 Rep Power: 10 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | I understood the verse to mean that ever living thing contains water, which is correct.
__________________"it's just that you're a muslim and want it to be special, but deep inside you know the truth." Actually, it's more like you're muslim, you read this, and it strengthens your faith. Maybe if you don't believe that islam is the truth it's harder to grasp, or believe. and the psychosis begins. a photographer, check out my work. |
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| LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 142 Reputation: 467 Rep Power: 14 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Beirut-Lebanon Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Water is the most abundant substance in living systems, making up 7o% or more of the weight of most organisms. The first living organisms doubtdless arose in an aqueous environment and the course of evolution has been shaped by the properties of the aqueous medium in which life began. (Lehinger Biochemistry, 4th edition) |
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| a.k.a. steve Status: Offline Posts: 1,636 Reputation: 6800 Rep Power: 29 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Belgium, Gent Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | The verse doesn't state that everything is made entirely out of water. So I don't see how any of that matters.
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| Agnostic revert Status: Offline Posts: 1,461 Reputation: 3711 Rep Power: 10 Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Way of Life: Agnostic | Quote:
The second part was actually a reply to Ahlääm's post which I found a bit arrogant. | |
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| Agnostic revert Status: Offline Posts: 1,461 Reputation: 3711 Rep Power: 10 Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Way of Life: Agnostic | so, what do you propose the verse actually says? That every living organism contains a lot of water, that life began in water...? |
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| be passionate! Status: Offline Posts: 934 Reputation: 4958 Rep Power: 10 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Toronto Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Well, it could have said "and we made every thing from water", but it specified that it was only living things that were made out of water. Like I said it before, I understood it as saying that every living thing contains water. Looking at it from the other point of view, the question is: Is there a living thing that does not contain water? No. Which proves this verse to be correct, which I find miraculous. :]
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| Agnostic revert Status: Offline Posts: 1,461 Reputation: 3711 Rep Power: 10 Join Date: Oct 2007 Gender: Way of Life: Agnostic | Quote:
I think the author of the Quran knew every living thing, which I guess in his time were animals and plants, required water to survive, so he made the verse about it. It's possible he deducted every living thing therefore contains water. Nothing miraculous in my opinion. He could have also thought every living thing was made from water, which is wrong. Why is it that every miraculous verse has to be so ambiguous? If it said living beings contain water, lots of it, i'd probably be impressed. I don't mean to harm your religious felings, I think it's great you have reasons to believe, I just don't think the verse should be portryed as scientific. | |
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