Is the Quran from Allah (Swt)

Pk_#2 · **Is the Quran from Allah (Swt) -** 06-04-2006

Salaam aley kum warahmahtullah.

This my Article Please read on. Looking forward for your feedback. An article compiled in different style to give you a better understanding of Quran.

Ma-salama
Prince of Destiny

To prove that Quran is from Allah (swt), either of the two possibilities has to proven: Either,

Muhammad is a Liar and therefore the Quran is from himself or from some Arab(s)

Or

Muhammad [saw] is a Prophet and Quran is from Allah Alone.

Those who claim that Muhammad or some Arab produced the Quran have no evidence to support the claim. Firstly, if an Arab other Muhammad produced the Quran then, who is he? Why is it that there is no record in history of his name? How did that person communicate with Muhammad [saw]. It is well documented that Quran was revealed to prophet when he was in his home, in the battle, or in the Masjid, while he was traveling, and other times and places. How would some who is until today not known to anyone have communicated with Muhammad at all those times and places without anyone witness to such a thing, if that person gave the Quran to Muhammad [saw]. Thus, the claim that an Arab gave the Quran Muhammad is false. In addition, we know that no Arab was able to meet the challenge of the Quran, and failed to produce something like it. Allah says, "'And if you are in doubt concerning that which We (,411ah) have sent down (i. e. Quran) to Muhammad, then produce a Surah of the like thereof and call your witnesses (supporters/helpers) besides Allah, if you are truthful" [Al-Baqarah2:231. The Quran cannot be from Muhammad because he too was an illiterate Arab. Thus, he could not have produced a speech that surpasses that of the intellectuals from the Arabs, past and present. Secondly, thousands of Hadith, which document the speech of Muhammad, are not miraculous in speech. They are speech of human being, (one won’t be able to tell if a statement is from Muhammad or from a Sahabah except by the chain of narrators who indicate the source of the statement. It is impossible that Muhammad would be able to maintain this difference between his speech and the revelation of the Qur'an.

The Quran also made many declarations, which would have been foolish for Muhammad to make, had they been his own, as they could have undermined his entire message. As an example, Allah said "The power of Abu Lahab will perish, and he will perish. His wealth and He will be plunged inflaming Fire, and his wife, 'have upon her neck a halter of palm-fiber "[Al-Masad 11 1: 1-51].In this ayat Quran declares that Abu Lahab and his wife will never accept Islam and will go to hell.. How would Muhammad [saw] know this? This surah was revealed long before the death of Abu Lahab and his wife. Abu Jahal, Waleed bin Mugheera, Abu Sufayan use to torture Muhammad [saw], if Muhammad [saw] would have produced Quran he would have said that all three would never accept Islam. Since Quran is from Allah, Allah never stated that Abu Sufayan would not accept Islam, because Allah knew Abu Sufayan will accept Islam one day. [Abu Sufayan accepted Islam later].

Similarly, the Quran foretold many other events such as defeat of Byzantines by Romans as Allah said in Quran " the Romans have been defeated. In the near land, and they after there defeat will be victorious again. Within three to nine years. The decision of the matter before and after is only with Allah.." [ar-Rum: 2-4].It is impossible that Muhammad [saw] could have known that Romans and Persians would even have a war within 9 year period and Romans will be successful. If this war wouldn’t occurred then entire message of Quran would become fake. These evidence reaffirm that Muhammad [saw] could not have produced the Quran. It is full of knowledge and wisdom that is beyond the capacity of any human being to produce.

The Quran is revealed in Arabic language. Its eloquence and content is its miracle. Those who listen to it and understand it realize that it cannot be the speech of any human being. That is because the Quran's style and expressiveness is unlike that of any work produced by a human being. It is neither poetry nor prose, but a unique speech unparalleled in the history of Arabic literature. Its contents discuss the full spectrum of human needs, problems, and attitudes while maintaining relevance to all times. Only those who are well versed in Arabic language can enjoy the miraculous nature of the Qur'an. Since Quran is in Arabic language it requires one to have a deep knowledge of Arabic language, Arabic grammar, and to be familiar with the language and style of classical Arabic literature. Simply speaking Arabic alone is not sufficient for appreciating the miraculous eloquence of the Quran. Here is an example of the Quran's style and miraculous eloquence to those who are deficient in Arabic language Allah says: And it was said.- 0 Earth! Swallow the water and, 0 sky! Be cleared of clouds And the water was made to subside. And the commandment was fulfilled And it[the ship came to rest upon[the mount]AI-Judi and It was said.- Afar removal for wrongdoing people. " [Hud 11: 441] This, ayah is talking about the time of Noah. It consists of only 17 words, yet in it, A11ah has related to us the entire events of the flood and its aftermath. It tells us that the earth was filled with water and the clouds were overhead, then A11ah ordered the Earth to drain the water from the land and the sky to be clear of clouds. Then, the Earth and the Sky obeyed the order such that the land was no longer flooded, and the ship of Noah came to rest on a mountain. Then, A11ah informs us that Noah's people were saved from their oppressors as well as the fact that those people were destroyed. All of these ideas are expressed in just one Ayah, with very short sentences, using six conjunctions, without repetition or faltering in the exceptional eloquence and style of the Quran. It is reported that when Ibn Muqaffah, a poet was asked by some Arabs to produce something like the Quran, heard this -Ayah, and he gave up his effort and submitted to the superiority of the Qur'an's eloquence.

It is often said that a picture is worth a thousand words. How ever, in Quran, A11ah uses few words to provide us with vivid descriptions of complex events such as that of a battle in one of its Surahs. In this Surah, 411ah describes the scene of a battle in such a way that the reader would be able to visualize a snapshot of it, but rather the entire course of the battle. He says, "By the steeds that run, with panting (breath), Striking sparks of fire (by their hooves), and scouting to the raid at dawn.and raise the dust in clouds the while, penetrating forth with as one onto the midst (of foe),- " [Al-Adiyat 100: 1-5] Here, 411ah details for us the energy of the horses as they snort in anticipation and the sparks arising from the clashing of their hoofs against stones on the ground in their fierce charge towards the enemy. The backdrop is the first light of dawn, and the tactic is to surprise the enemy. The dust is collecting behind them as a large troop rages across the desert sands, and the horses obeying their masters as they ride into the ranks of the enemy, fearless and disciplined. The eloquence with which the Quran relates this is extraordinary. There are only twelve words used to describe this entire scene in Quran but it gives a clear understanding of the meaning, in Arabic or any other language, it would require pages. These are just a few examples of the miraculous style of the Qur'an and its ability to express many meanings in very few words without compromising its eloquence.

In addition to the style of the Quran, its contents too are of a miraculous nature. The Quran speaks to us of so many phenomenons in this life, which were not yet known at the time of Muhammad. In addition, by himself, Muhammad could not have produced a text, which covered such vast fields as astronomy, geology, embryology, botany, entomology, history, and social, economic, and political principles. Some examples of the Quran's address on specific issues are presented here. Allah says, 'and after that, the earth He "expanded (or made egg shaped) " [An-Nazi'at 79: 30] In this Ayah, Allah used the word Dahaha, which mean either expanded, spread out, or shaped like an egg. However, it was not until 19th century that scientist found that earth is shaped like an egg, which Allah told us 1400 years ago. Therefore, Muhammad [saw] cannot be a liar rather He is the messenger of Allah and Quran is from Allah alone.

WalaykumSalaam.

**Al Habeshi** · **Re: Is the Quran from Allah (Swt) -** 06-04-2006

Salam Aleykum

Mashallah

There is a thread which speaks about this...http://www.islamicboard.com/comparat...-imposter.html (Muhammad: a Prophet or an imposter?)

If you still want feedback after having read that ask and I might be able to give ya some

Pk_#2 · **Re: Is the Quran from Allah (Swt) -** 06-04-2006

AslamuAlaykum,

I reckon Moddy's should move this thread onto the other brothers thread...they combine...

Jaakahala Eisa for finding this for me

... (first time i spelt ur name right eh eh ehhh)
And walaykumSalaam Tc.

**Al Habeshi** · **Re: Is the Quran from Allah (Swt) -** 06-04-2006

nah its Eesa not Eisa lol and yea they should move it together

Pk_#2 · **Re: Is the Quran from Allah (Swt) -** 06-04-2006

Ahh man! i tried so hard...

yeah havn't read the other one yet

Hussein radi · **Re: Is the Quran from Allah (Swt) -** 06-04-2006

One thing i want to mention. Arabs at that time were known for thier excellent poetry skilles and yet these Arabs who are skilled at thier own language logically converted to islam, becuase they knew that such a book cannot be made by no Arab. Quran is the words of Allah(SAW) and Prophet Muhammed(SAW) is his messanger.

Pk_#2 · **Re: Is the Quran from Allah (Swt) -** 06-04-2006

Also people couldn't say the prophet wrote it himself...firstly it was impossible to come up with the Quran as a human and he was illiterate

**Al Habeshi** · **Re: Is the Quran from Allah (Swt) -** 06-04-2006

Plus
if he was a liar it would be logical that he lied to gain something but he didnt gain much materialistic stuff.

Pk_#2 · **Re: Is the Quran from Allah (Swt) -** 06-04-2006

And he clearly wasn't a liar

Al amin (The trustworthy) das wah they called him

hassanomar · **Re: Is the Quran from Allah (Swt) -** 06-14-2006

Purest of all men!!

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Pk_#2 Account Disabled Status: Offline Posts: 8,738 Reputation: 37754 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Way of Life: Undisclosed	Is the Quran from Allah (Swt) - 06-04-2006 Salaam aley kum warahmahtullah. This my Article Please read on. Looking forward for your feedback. An article compiled in different style to give you a better understanding of Quran. Ma-salama Prince of Destiny To prove that Quran is from Allah (swt), either of the two possibilities has to proven: Either, Muhammad is a Liar and therefore the Quran is from himself or from some Arab(s) Or Muhammad [saw] is a Prophet and Quran is from Allah Alone. Those who claim that Muhammad or some Arab produced the Quran have no evidence to support the claim. Firstly, if an Arab other Muhammad produced the Quran then, who is he? Why is it that there is no record in history of his name? How did that person communicate with Muhammad [saw]. It is well documented that Quran was revealed to prophet when he was in his home, in the battle, or in the Masjid, while he was traveling, and other times and places. How would some who is until today not known to anyone have communicated with Muhammad at all those times and places without anyone witness to such a thing, if that person gave the Quran to Muhammad [saw]. Thus, the claim that an Arab gave the Quran Muhammad is false. In addition, we know that no Arab was able to meet the challenge of the Quran, and failed to produce something like it. Allah says, "'And if you are in doubt concerning that which We (,411ah) have sent down (i. e. Quran) to Muhammad, then produce a Surah of the like thereof and call your witnesses (supporters/helpers) besides Allah, if you are truthful" [Al-Baqarah2:231. The Quran cannot be from Muhammad because he too was an illiterate Arab. Thus, he could not have produced a speech that surpasses that of the intellectuals from the Arabs, past and present. Secondly, thousands of Hadith, which document the speech of Muhammad, are not miraculous in speech. They are speech of human being, (one won’t be able to tell if a statement is from Muhammad or from a Sahabah except by the chain of narrators who indicate the source of the statement. It is impossible that Muhammad would be able to maintain this difference between his speech and the revelation of the Qur'an. The Quran also made many declarations, which would have been foolish for Muhammad to make, had they been his own, as they could have undermined his entire message. As an example, Allah said "The power of Abu Lahab will perish, and he will perish. His wealth and He will be plunged inflaming Fire, and his wife, 'have upon her neck a halter of palm-fiber "[Al-Masad 11 1: 1-51].In this ayat Quran declares that Abu Lahab and his wife will never accept Islam and will go to hell.. How would Muhammad [saw] know this? This surah was revealed long before the death of Abu Lahab and his wife. Abu Jahal, Waleed bin Mugheera, Abu Sufayan use to torture Muhammad [saw], if Muhammad [saw] would have produced Quran he would have said that all three would never accept Islam. Since Quran is from Allah, Allah never stated that Abu Sufayan would not accept Islam, because Allah knew Abu Sufayan will accept Islam one day. [Abu Sufayan accepted Islam later]. Similarly, the Quran foretold many other events such as defeat of Byzantines by Romans as Allah said in Quran " the Romans have been defeated. In the near land, and they after there defeat will be victorious again. Within three to nine years. The decision of the matter before and after is only with Allah.." [ar-Rum: 2-4].It is impossible that Muhammad [saw] could have known that Romans and Persians would even have a war within 9 year period and Romans will be successful. If this war wouldn’t occurred then entire message of Quran would become fake. These evidence reaffirm that Muhammad [saw] could not have produced the Quran. It is full of knowledge and wisdom that is beyond the capacity of any human being to produce. The Quran is revealed in Arabic language. Its eloquence and content is its miracle. Those who listen to it and understand it realize that it cannot be the speech of any human being. That is because the Quran's style and expressiveness is unlike that of any work produced by a human being. It is neither poetry nor prose, but a unique speech unparalleled in the history of Arabic literature. Its contents discuss the full spectrum of human needs, problems, and attitudes while maintaining relevance to all times. Only those who are well versed in Arabic language can enjoy the miraculous nature of the Qur'an. Since Quran is in Arabic language it requires one to have a deep knowledge of Arabic language, Arabic grammar, and to be familiar with the language and style of classical Arabic literature. Simply speaking Arabic alone is not sufficient for appreciating the miraculous eloquence of the Quran. Here is an example of the Quran's style and miraculous eloquence to those who are deficient in Arabic language Allah says: And it was said.- 0 Earth! Swallow the water and, 0 sky! Be cleared of clouds And the water was made to subside. And the commandment was fulfilled And it[the ship came to rest upon[the mount]AI-Judi and It was said.- Afar removal for wrongdoing people. " [Hud 11: 441] This, ayah is talking about the time of Noah. It consists of only 17 words, yet in it, A11ah has related to us the entire events of the flood and its aftermath. It tells us that the earth was filled with water and the clouds were overhead, then A11ah ordered the Earth to drain the water from the land and the sky to be clear of clouds. Then, the Earth and the Sky obeyed the order such that the land was no longer flooded, and the ship of Noah came to rest on a mountain. Then, A11ah informs us that Noah's people were saved from their oppressors as well as the fact that those people were destroyed. All of these ideas are expressed in just one Ayah, with very short sentences, using six conjunctions, without repetition or faltering in the exceptional eloquence and style of the Quran. It is reported that when Ibn Muqaffah, a poet was asked by some Arabs to produce something like the Quran, heard this -Ayah, and he gave up his effort and submitted to the superiority of the Qur'an's eloquence. It is often said that a picture is worth a thousand words. How ever, in Quran, A11ah uses few words to provide us with vivid descriptions of complex events such as that of a battle in one of its Surahs. In this Surah, 411ah describes the scene of a battle in such a way that the reader would be able to visualize a snapshot of it, but rather the entire course of the battle. He says, "By the steeds that run, with panting (breath), Striking sparks of fire (by their hooves), and scouting to the raid at dawn.and raise the dust in clouds the while, penetrating forth with as one onto the midst (of foe),- " [Al-Adiyat 100: 1-5] Here, 411ah details for us the energy of the horses as they snort in anticipation and the sparks arising from the clashing of their hoofs against stones on the ground in their fierce charge towards the enemy. The backdrop is the first light of dawn, and the tactic is to surprise the enemy. The dust is collecting behind them as a large troop rages across the desert sands, and the horses obeying their masters as they ride into the ranks of the enemy, fearless and disciplined. The eloquence with which the Quran relates this is extraordinary. There are only twelve words used to describe this entire scene in Quran but it gives a clear understanding of the meaning, in Arabic or any other language, it would require pages. These are just a few examples of the miraculous style of the Qur'an and its ability to express many meanings in very few words without compromising its eloquence. In addition to the style of the Quran, its contents too are of a miraculous nature. The Quran speaks to us of so many phenomenons in this life, which were not yet known at the time of Muhammad. In addition, by himself, Muhammad could not have produced a text, which covered such vast fields as astronomy, geology, embryology, botany, entomology, history, and social, economic, and political principles. Some examples of the Quran's address on specific issues are presented here. Allah says, 'and after that, the earth He "expanded (or made egg shaped) " [An-Nazi'at 79: 30] In this Ayah, Allah used the word Dahaha, which mean either expanded, spread out, or shaped like an egg. However, it was not until 19th century that scientist found that earth is shaped like an egg, which Allah told us 1400 years ago. Therefore, Muhammad [saw] cannot be a liar rather He is the messenger of Allah and Quran is from Allah alone. WalaykumSalaam.

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Al Habeshi Eesa Abdullah Status: Offline Posts: 5,784 Reputation: 22602 Rep Power: 51 Join Date: Jan 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Is the Quran from Allah (Swt) - 06-04-2006 Salam Aleykum Mashallah There is a thread which speaks about this...http://www.islamicboard.com/comparat...-imposter.html (Muhammad: a Prophet or an imposter?) If you still want feedback after having read that ask and I might be able to give ya some __________________ إتبعوا ولا تبتدعوا، فقدكفيتم، وكل بدعة ضلالة Follow (the Sunnah) and do not innovate (into it), for verily you have been sufficed. And every innovation is a misguidance. Confused about which religion is true? How can I know? Come and check out some proposed fundamental principles (#1 , #2) to aid you in making a decision.

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Pk_#2 Account Disabled Status: Offline Posts: 8,738 Reputation: 37754 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Way of Life: Undisclosed	Re: Is the Quran from Allah (Swt) - 06-04-2006 AslamuAlaykum, I reckon Moddy's should move this thread onto the other brothers thread...they combine... Jaakahala Eisa for finding this for me ... (first time i spelt ur name right eh eh ehhh) And walaykumSalaam Tc.

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Al Habeshi Eesa Abdullah Status: Offline Posts: 5,784 Reputation: 22602 Rep Power: 51 Join Date: Jan 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Is the Quran from Allah (Swt) - 06-04-2006 nah its Eesa not Eisa lol and yea they should move it together __________________ إتبعوا ولا تبتدعوا، فقدكفيتم، وكل بدعة ضلالة Follow (the Sunnah) and do not innovate (into it), for verily you have been sufficed. And every innovation is a misguidance. Confused about which religion is true? How can I know? Come and check out some proposed fundamental principles (#1 , #2) to aid you in making a decision.

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Pk_#2 Account Disabled Status: Offline Posts: 8,738 Reputation: 37754 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Way of Life: Undisclosed	Re: Is the Quran from Allah (Swt) - 06-04-2006 Ahh man! i tried so hard... yeah havn't read the other one yet

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Hussein radi LI Senior Member Status: Offline Posts: 152 Reputation: 91 Rep Power: 17 Join Date: Apr 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Is the Quran from Allah (Swt) - 06-04-2006 One thing i want to mention. Arabs at that time were known for thier excellent poetry skilles and yet these Arabs who are skilled at thier own language logically converted to islam, becuase they knew that such a book cannot be made by no Arab. Quran is the words of Allah(SAW) and Prophet Muhammed(SAW) is his messanger.

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Pk_#2 Account Disabled Status: Offline Posts: 8,738 Reputation: 37754 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Way of Life: Undisclosed	Re: Is the Quran from Allah (Swt) - 06-04-2006 Also people couldn't say the prophet wrote it himself...firstly it was impossible to come up with the Quran as a human and he was illiterate

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Al Habeshi Eesa Abdullah Status: Offline Posts: 5,784 Reputation: 22602 Rep Power: 51 Join Date: Jan 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Is the Quran from Allah (Swt) - 06-04-2006 Plus if he was a liar it would be logical that he lied to gain something but he didnt gain much materialistic stuff. __________________ إتبعوا ولا تبتدعوا، فقدكفيتم، وكل بدعة ضلالة Follow (the Sunnah) and do not innovate (into it), for verily you have been sufficed. And every innovation is a misguidance. Confused about which religion is true? How can I know? Come and check out some proposed fundamental principles (#1 , #2) to aid you in making a decision.

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Pk_#2 Account Disabled Status: Offline Posts: 8,738 Reputation: 37754 Rep Power: 0 Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: UK Way of Life: Undisclosed	Re: Is the Quran from Allah (Swt) - 06-04-2006 And he clearly wasn't a liar Al amin (The trustworthy) das wah they called him

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hassanomar Member Status: Offline Posts: 87 Reputation: 64 Rep Power: 17 Join Date: Apr 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim	Re: Is the Quran from Allah (Swt) - 06-14-2006 Purest of all men!!