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| Eesa Abdullah   Status: Offline Posts: 5,784 Reputation: 22602 Rep Power: 51   Join Date: Jan 2006 Gender:  Way of Life: Muslim |  Re: Crying At Christians -
12-07-2006
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Yea but the Ummah, they wont go hell, well some might for abit, but I mean those who associate with Allah, they spend their whole life trying and twisting and turning and so on and then bam hell. I find that sad. إتبعوا ولا تبتدعوا، فقدكفيتم، وكل بدعة ضلالة Follow (the Sunnah) and do not innovate (into it), for verily you have been sufficed. And every innovation is a misguidance. Confused about which religion is true? How can I know? Come and check out some proposed fundamental principles (#1 , #2) to aid you in making a decision. | |
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| Extremophile   Status: Offline Posts: 6,657 Reputation: 24549 Rep Power: 57 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swimming with thermus aquaticus in Yellowstone National Park Gender:  Way of Life: Muslim | Re: Crying At Christians -
12-07-2006
 ^Well it only seems sad to us because we are humans and that is our limitation but Allah swt is Just and He is more mercyful then we could ever imagine and yet He still will put them in hell fire, so I guess He knows best what makes a person worthy of the fire. May He protect us from it and Guide us to the right path!  |
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| Eesa Abdullah Status: Offline Posts: 5,784 Reputation: 22602 Rep Power: 51 Join Date: Jan 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: Crying At Christians -
12-07-2006
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Sister, we can still be sad and still understand that it is something deserved, I mean if my kid kills someone and so my kid is to be executed, I will of course know that he deserved it but I'd still be sad. إتبعوا ولا تبتدعوا، فقدكفيتم، وكل بدعة ضلالة Follow (the Sunnah) and do not innovate (into it), for verily you have been sufficed. And every innovation is a misguidance. Confused about which religion is true? How can I know? Come and check out some proposed fundamental principles (#1 , #2) to aid you in making a decision. | |
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| Extremophile Status: Offline Posts: 6,657 Reputation: 24549 Rep Power: 57 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swimming with thermus aquaticus in Yellowstone National Park Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: Crying At Christians -
12-07-2006
I know, thats why I said: It might seem sad to us. |
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| Eesa Abdullah Status: Offline Posts: 5,784 Reputation: 22602 Rep Power: 51 Join Date: Jan 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: Crying At Christians -
12-07-2006
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It's not about 'seeming' sad, it is sad. I mean whether or not they deserve paradise thats something else, but it's still sad, in this world they spend their life fasting and sacrafising things, whilst other kafirs might have done everything they wanted, yet both will go hell, I understand the reason and the wisdom and that its something they deserve but sad none the less. إتبعوا ولا تبتدعوا، فقدكفيتم، وكل بدعة ضلالة Follow (the Sunnah) and do not innovate (into it), for verily you have been sufficed. And every innovation is a misguidance. Confused about which religion is true? How can I know? Come and check out some proposed fundamental principles (#1 , #2) to aid you in making a decision. | |
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| Extremophile Status: Offline Posts: 6,657 Reputation: 24549 Rep Power: 57 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swimming with thermus aquaticus in Yellowstone National Park Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: Crying At Christians -
12-07-2006
Bro relax I'm not denying that it is sad to us!!! But as sad as we might get in this life we will know the reality of it on the Day of Judgement... there a hadith about prophet Ibraheem, anout how on the day of judgement he will say to Allah swt that didnt You promise to to dishonour me? what can be a greater dishonour then sending my father to hell fire or something like that... and Allah swt will reply by showing him his father in the form of hyena and he will realise that his dad was meant for hell and stuff... so yeh... its sad and all, but we shouldnt let your sadness get in the way of the biggest picture... |
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| Eesa Abdullah Status: Offline Posts: 5,784 Reputation: 22602 Rep Power: 51 Join Date: Jan 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: Crying At Christians -
12-07-2006
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I didnt say that it was unfair or anything, I didnt say it was unjust. I'm just saying its very sad. إتبعوا ولا تبتدعوا، فقدكفيتم، وكل بدعة ضلالة Follow (the Sunnah) and do not innovate (into it), for verily you have been sufficed. And every innovation is a misguidance. Confused about which religion is true? How can I know? Come and check out some proposed fundamental principles (#1 , #2) to aid you in making a decision. | |
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| Fighting4Emaan  Status: Offline Posts: 16,004 Reputation: 48512 Rep Power: 93 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fighting4Emaan Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: Crying At Christians -
12-07-2006
 i rememba when i was 16 i was talking to one o ma super practising bro's. and i asked him "dont you feel sry for those that go to hell... non muslims i mean", he said, "they only oppress themselves, Allah wants them saved but thats their fault, i will never feel sorry for anyone who rejects Allah swt". Make dua'a for them sure but, why do they not accept the clear signs of the one whos sustaining them... |
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| Eesa Abdullah Status: Offline Posts: 5,784 Reputation: 22602 Rep Power: 51 Join Date: Jan 2006 Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: Crying At Christians -
12-07-2006
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Come on, this thread is not to debate whether everyone gets a clear sign from Allah and whether people deserve going hell. Of course yes to both those questions. But the fact is that it is still a sad thing, for me personally, I see my mom day in day out working hard for praying, doing all sorts of things and then come Judgement day she'll have nothing. Am I debating as to whether that is right or wrong, NO, am just saying just as 'Umar cried then its ok for some of us to cry because it is a sad situation. إتبعوا ولا تبتدعوا، فقدكفيتم، وكل بدعة ضلالة Follow (the Sunnah) and do not innovate (into it), for verily you have been sufficed. And every innovation is a misguidance. Confused about which religion is true? How can I know? Come and check out some proposed fundamental principles (#1 , #2) to aid you in making a decision. | |
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| Fighting4Emaan Status: Offline Posts: 16,004 Reputation: 48512 Rep Power: 93 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Fighting4Emaan Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: Crying At Christians -
12-07-2006
your right though it is sad, thats why i said "make dua'a for them, and why do they not accept the one who sustains them"  i keep thinking of the amount of times the prophet saws tried to revert Abu Jahl and his crew (hayatus sahabah) and each time they mocked him and he was so hurt... |
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| Ummah Under 1 Banner  Status: Offline Posts: 10,378 Reputation: 41985 Rep Power: 84 Join Date: May 2005 Location: ...travelling to the hereafter.. Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: Crying At Christians -
12-07-2006
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| Extremophile Status: Offline Posts: 6,657 Reputation: 24549 Rep Power: 57 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swimming with thermus aquaticus in Yellowstone National Park Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: Crying At Christians -
12-07-2006
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 I was simply trying to point out that the reason we feel sad is that, other than because Allah swt made us that way, we are limited in our understanding, judgement and wisdom. But I know and understand totally, 100%, that yes it is very sad. | |
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| Extremophile Status: Offline Posts: 6,657 Reputation: 24549 Rep Power: 57 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Swimming with thermus aquaticus in Yellowstone National Park Gender: Way of Life: Muslim | Re: Crying At Christians -
12-08-2006
Sorry if i offended you Eesa, very sorry, it wasnt my intention at all.  |
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