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Default Re: Abrogations - 07-05-2005

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Also, Abrogation occurs when the previous ruling is completely revoked.
verse of stoning was one of them?

so here what its like:

adulterates/adultresses-100 lashes
fornicators/fornicatress-80 lashes
and those who bring false charges?
   
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Default Re: Abrogations - 07-05-2005


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verse of stoning was one of them?
The recitation was abrogated but the ruling remains.

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so here what its like:

adulterates/adultresses-100 lashes
fornicators/fornicatress-80 lashes
and those who bring false charges?
This was explained by Br. Kadafi in the other thread. Please read what he wrote about the punishments.

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Default Re: Abrogations - 07-13-2005

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Does Al-Naskh mean abrogation(s)?




The English word “abrogation” literally signifies annulment, nullification or cancellation. However, in Islaamic terminology that is used in Glorious Qur’aan, it means expiration of the period of the validity of a practical injunction”.

Naskh (abrogation) is related only to injunctions that are not eternal and are equal with regard to the possibility of their existence or non-existence.

Abrogation can never be taken to mean that Allaah commanded or prohibited something and then thought better of it and decided to cancel His former command. This is impossible because it involves attributing ignorance to Allaah (Allaah forbid). Also it is not possible for Allaah to command or prohibit something and then without any change in time, subject or conditions to abrogate His injunction since that would lead to attributing imperfection to Allaah. Allaah is FREE of any imperfection whatsoever.

What the Naskh/Mansookh (abrogation/abrogated) signified is that Allaah knows that a certain injunction will remain valid for people up to certain time and then cease to be applicable. When that specific time is reached, a new command is sent which seems to either abrogate or change the former injunction but which, in fact, does nothing but mark the expiration of its validity. Since the former command did not have a specific period of validity attached to it, we take the new injunction as a cancellation of the former.

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An employer might command one of his employees to do certain task with the intention of asking him to do some other task after one year, without, however, disclosing his intention to the employee. After the completion of the year, when employer ask the employee to do the other job, the employee might think that employer have changed or amended his orders, even though it is not the case, in fact, employer has not made any changes or amended his plans. Like all other changing phenomena around us, these apparent changes or amendments in the divine injunction are part of Divine Wisdom, whether we know its significance or not.

The literal meaning of Naskh is replacement of one thing by another thing. Technical meaning from Islaamic point of view is “Lifting the Law of Shariah by reasons of Shariah رفع الحكم شرعى بدليل شرعى.”

I hope insha Allah this will clear up doubts in people's mind and set the record straight.


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I've been reading the biography of the Prophet SAW, called the Sealed Nectar
There's one part where a certain tribe killed 70 of the prophet SAW's companions, It says
Anas reported that for thirty days the Prophet SAW suplicated Allah against those who killed his companions at Ma'una Well. Every dawn prayer he would invoke Allah's wrath against Ri'l, Dhakwan, Lihyan and 'Usaiyah. He would say "Usaiyah disobeyed Allah and his Messenger" Therefore Allah sent down unto us His Messenger a Qu'ranic verse that we kept reciting till it was abrogated later on 'Inform our folk that we have encountered our Lord and he is satisfied with us and we are satisfied with Him' So the messenger of Allah SAW stopped his invocation.

Its from Sahih Bukhari 2/586-588. If anyone has the english translation its on page 301
I'm quite sure i've misunderstood what it's said, so can someone please help?
   
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Default Re: Abbrogation in the Qu'ran?? Alleged proof from Bukhari - 09-09-2005

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I've been reading the biography of the Prophet SAW, called the Sealed Nectar
There's one part where a certain tribe killed 70 of the prophet SAW's companions, It says
Anas reported that for thirty days the Prophet SAW suplicated Allah against those who killed his companions at Ma'una Well. Every dawn prayer he would invoke Allah's wrath against Ri'l, Dhakwan, Lihyan and 'Usaiyah. He would say "Usaiyah disobeyed Allah and his Messenger" Therefore Allah sent down unto us His Messenger a Qu'ranic verse that we kept reciting till it was abrogated later on 'Inform our folk that we have encountered our Lord and he is satisfied with us and we are satisfied with Him' So the messenger of Allah SAW stopped his invocation.

Its from Sahih Bukhari 2/586-588. If anyone has the english translation its on page 301
I'm quite sure i've misunderstood what it's said, so can someone please help?

Yes, this is another classic example of abrogation.

For more detailed discussion on this subject, we can continue here:
http://www.islamicboard.com/showthread.php?p=77284
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Default Re: Abrogations - 11-07-2005

what was the wisdom of abrogating the verse of stoning?Why was it abrogated?Did the Prophet(PBUH) used to notify which verses are abrogated?

   
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